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7 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Haha - zero need to do that as I also happen to have a copy of the said dictionary. It says: 'multi' [primary definition] 'many' (from the Latin multus = much, many) so it's hardly "my own interpretation" of the word, is it? It certainly does give a secondary definition of 'more than one'. 

So we're both right.

Or we're both wrong. 

😃

8 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

However, I suspect very few guitarists and bass-players would consider something having just two (i.e. more than one) features to be a multi-fx. Just sayin'...

Possibly true as a sweeping generalisation, but in literal terms it's still accurate whether people choose to define it that way or not. Just sayin'... 😉

10 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

 

Now that is a good question!  But it's not according to @agedhorse and tbf he does know his onions from his garlic.

I know, it was meant to be rhetorical as it's already been covered. Maybe another case of adding a smiley would have made my intention clearer 🙄

30 minutes ago, krispn said:

Jesus lads it’s an eq pedal! 😂

 

 

Or is it a pre-amp?

36 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Had a discussion with the OP a long while back as to what constitutes a multi-effect, he was of the view that more than one = multi, whereas for me "a few" = more than one but not many and that multi is more than a few i.e. many. 

Regarding the conversation in question, I was quoting the Oxford English Dictionary definition of the world multi whereas you were going by your own interpretation of the word.

Did you ever contact the OED to let them know they were wrong? 

The Genzler Magellan amps have in-built high pass filters, they're fixed with a "steep roll of below 30Hz". I had that information from an email from Jeff Genzler himself when I asked the question. 

Just had an email about this new intriguing looking EQ pedal from Genzler, featuring a 5 band EQ plus high and low pass filters. 

Got to admit I'm a massive Genzler fanyboy so looking forward to giving this a try as and when. 

RE/Q - DUAL FUNCTION EQUALIZATION PEDAL - Genzler Amplification

I very much doubt that anyone's hymen would have remained intact after encountering that stench 🤢🤮

Met up with Frank again today, this time to hand over a pedal. Everything that has already been said about him is still true. No fuss, prompt payment and turned when he said he would - although I might have been late 😃

Anyway, the moral of today's story is don't spend more than a couple of minutes in an enclosed space with Frank otherwise you will be subjected to chemical warfare from his unstable botty. And believe me, it's not pleasant. 

4 minutes ago, Ricky 4000 said:

 

It couldn't look more like a tern. 😗

But I don't know what a tern looks like. 

Just now, Ricky 4000 said:

Looks more like a wagtail to me. 

16 minutes ago, Skinnyman said:

Only if you’re dancing to it 

But that's not true is it. We're talking covers bands, ergo drunken covers band crowds. And it is an immutable law that regardless of what song the band is playing, the crowd are all dancing to the beat of In the Summer Time by Mungo Jerry. 

13 minutes ago, Linus27 said:

So just a little update. Popped into Andertons and was chatting bass to the guy there and we got on the the subject of clean bass amps etc. He immediately recommended I try an Aguilar Tone Hammer as he said it was super clean. It was set up through an Aguilar 212 and oh my, what a sound. At first I tried it with a Warwick Adam Clayton Streamer which I must say, sounded and played amazing. Not being sure if it was the bass or the rig, I then tried it with a Fender 75th Anniversary Jazz and this also sounded amazing. Not as good as the Warwick but they were both bright and punchy and I could dial a really nice tone into the amp. 

 

He also recommended the Genzler Magellan which he said is a very clean sounding amp so it seems like you lot are totally on the money. The Aguilar however was amazing and even the cab being a 212, it wasn't huge. 

 

So I think a Aguilar Tone Hammer may be on the card and possibly swapping the Barefaced for an Aguilar SL212 if I need to.

Interesting! When I bought my Magellan a couple of years back I tried a few other amps including the Tone Hammer and to my ear I found the TH wasn't totally clear, it had a certain warmth to it that wasn't bad in any way but just never really made it sound totally clean to me. Maybe it was the cab that I tried it with which was an Aguilar 1x12. I found the TH didn't seem to go too bright either when pushing the treble. The Magellan delivered a more appealing clean - to me at least - although I tried that through my own Tecamp 2x12 cab so it wasn't a direct comparison where the only variable was the amp. 

Turning Japanese - The Vapours

50 minutes ago, Thunderbird said:

Its cos your poo at soldering lol Ill do it for you if you want when I pop round

Already sorted it but cheers anyway 😃

3 minutes ago, Teebs said:

So basically, you did a terrible job of putting a new jack on a cable?

Now now, people in glass houses...

Did you ever see the state of that shitty little home made cab you built? Eh? 

Just now, Teebs said:

So basically, you did a terrible job of putting a new jack on a cable?

Precisely. 

Thanks to the wise words of @nilebodgers who correctly identified the issue, the cable is now sorted so it's much appreciated. This morning I took the new plug off, stripped off the extra shielding layer on the insulated core and re-soldered the cable back up and all is good once more. 

Special thanks also to those who offered up the level of idiocy I have come to admire and respect from certain quarters. You know who you are. Although I suspect some of you probably don't. 

3 hours ago, Dan Dare said:

Sorry to be sensible, but when you say "darker", do you mean fatter, with more lows? If so, it could be that you have improved the lead, which you say was a cheapie, by making a decent contact between it and the new plug (which, being a Neutrik, probably makes a better connection than the old one). The highs could be the same as they were, but you perceive it as darker/fuller because you are now hearing the low end properly as well.

The low and mid content are the same going by ear, there's no additional bass, at least none than I can perceive. And that's not really something I'd want anyway as I play short scale basses which tent to be more rounded in the lows than longer scale basses. It was just the high end clarity that was missing, like turning down a passive tone control. However...

42 minutes ago, skankdelvar said:

Basically, with angled jacks the signal is going along in a straight line then suddenly has to go through an unexpected 90-degree turn. The lower frequencies move more slowly so they make it through the turn, no problem. The faster moving and frankly irresponsible high frequencies just spin out and never make it to the amplifier.

 

Like I say, crack a hazelnut and have a cuppa while the spirit goblin sorts it out.

 

Welly is currently awash with a plague of squirrels, no doubt sent by the object of desire of that cack-handed idiot from a few posts above. There's nary a nut to be seen around these parts, unfortunately. 

49 minutes ago, nilebodgers said:

Has the cable got a semiconducting layer? It’s usually a black layer in between the core and the shield and it can be easy to let it touch the core if you aren’t careful. You can end up with a high resistance short between hot and earth and a much increased cable capacitance that can make the cable sound very strange.

 

(look at Van Damme Pro Grade Classic XKE Instrument Cable for an example)

Thanks for that. I think I know what you're talking about and if so, then yes I think it has got a semiconducting layer. Of the 2 cores running through the cable there's the outer non-shielded copper core and the shielded core. The shielded one has 2 covering layers (I appreciate this probably isn't the correct term but it'll do if you know what I'm referring to!) a black outer layer and an inner clear layer. I noticed on the old plug that the black outer layer was trimmed further back, maybe 10-15mm or so leaving the clear inner layer covering the core pretty much up to around 1mm away from the solder joint. Not knowing any difference, and being lazy sod, I trimmed both layers off equally a mm or 2 short of the new solder joint. I'll dismantle the cable tomorrow and trim the black layer back and try again. Hopefully it's that simple. 

10 minutes ago, bartelby said:

Years back I bought a 10 m length of, quality, cable and 4 Neutrik plugs (3 straight and one right angled). Cut the cable in half and soldered on the plugs, creating 2 5m cables.

One is much darker sounding that the other, to the point of it being pretty unusable.

The darker one has the right angled plug!

Funnily enough, although the new jack hadn't been used before, I've had it for years, I bought a load in bulk probably 10 years or more ago. Still got around a dozen left too. Maybe there was a duff batch at the time? 

10 minutes ago, skankdelvar said:

There's a simple, folkloric solution to this common problem. Crack a hazelnut and the sound of it cracking will awaken the spirit goblin who guards your house and he'll restore the top end.

 

Give it a try and let us know how you get on.

It's the wrong season for hazelnuts in my mind. Would a macadamia work, or at a push an almond? 

24 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

Just turn the little knob on top.

 

https://www.neutrik.com/en/product/np2rx-timbre

Unfortunately it's not one of those jack types 😉

19 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

It's possible, but highly unlikely, you have done something that's created a significant amount of extra capacitance in the lead

If so, any idea how that can be rectified, if at all?

I have an old cable, it wasn't expensive but has been trouble free for years. It only gets used in the house so doesn't need to be anything special. Anyway, it has a cheapy angled jack on one end that had developed a loose connection so I cut it off and have soldered a brand new Neutrik angled jack on in its place. I'm no expert with a soldering iron but have successfully made up a number of cables without issue over the years.

It looked OK when I put it back together, the shielded core went to the jack pin and the non-shielded copper core went to the little tag thingy, just the same as the knackered jack that I'd removed. There was no obvious contact between the cores, both of which had been tinned first and the connections looked clean and solid to me. 

But once the cable was reassembled I noticed that the tone is much darker i.e. with noticeably less treble content than before. Any ideas why that is? Have I done anything obviously wrong? Anything I can do to restore the missing treble from it? 

7 minutes ago, Linus27 said:

How you've described the Ampeg is exactly how mine performs. It does sound great but the boost in the lows is spot on. I think one way to simplify it is I no longer need a head for playing rock but a head for playing Jazz.

 

Will certainly check out the Genzler and the Gallien Krueger MB500 head as recommended. Thank you.

Don't get me wrong, if you push the bass EQ on the Genzler you'll get a deep, weighty, and controlled low end. It has an inbuilt HPF with a steep roll off below 30Hz so it doesn't get bloated or needlessly chew up your headroom.