No lust in Jazz

Sounds like the classic pull the trigger on one, regret not buying the other quandry - suspect either would be fantastic.

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1421318429' post='2659710']
All I can say is that I'm sorry:

[url="http://www.fodera.com/monarch-standard-classic/"]http://www.fodera.co...andard-classic/[/url]

Si
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Its ok, although I now have an erection.

[quote name='NJE' timestamp='1421319449' post='2659723']
no-one will look at me any differently for turning up with a Squier.
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They may do, but if they do, they're unlikely to be there for entertainment - so I wouldn't care.

[quote name='NJE' timestamp='1421230626' post='2658587']
no-one gives a flying crap what bass or rig you have. Most people wouldnt really notice at a gig whether you have a 6k Fodera or a £160 squier as long as you sound 'bassy' thats all that matters.
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Agreed and this is a view I share, but I think that its great to have the range of options available - we're not communists.

I have been looking at Fodera and Pedulla basses and talking myself out of buying one, (it helps that I'm not a fan of wood finishes on basses). At the other end of the scale I tried a Squire Jazz V last year this bass was superb, (can't play five strings though)

The Fender label or 'other' label isn't the issue for me. If I factor in a host of other variables such as, pick up choice, strings, pick or fingers, valves or SS, EQ settings, speaker cabs there is a very real chance that I'll disappear up my own 'starfish' and forget that this is all about playing music.

[quote name='fatback' timestamp='1421092268' post='2657096']
Demigod Mick karn proves fretless is as funky as you like to make it.

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flHWJoDt3Yo&list=RDfuiRBLa7pdA&index=10"]https://www.youtube....La7pdA&index=10[/url]

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHH-D6y_O5Y&index=20&list=RDfuiRBLa7pdA"]https://www.youtube....t=RDfuiRBLa7pdA[/url]

Sorry, can't remember how to embed.
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Thanks for that, 6music played 'Sons of Pioneers' the other morning

[media]http://youtu.be/suQyFBx1ilY[/media]

An 11 piece at Alexander's, really?

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1421058355' post='2656546']
I don't think this is exclusively a keys problem, many gtr players will do the same with a bass heavy sound which
they love but ruins it for the rest. Less of a problem if only bass and gtr but I still hear it too often and real woe
can be 2 gtrs..!!
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Yes 100%.

They're all good - you are possibly over thinking this.

In answer to the thread title, no it wouldn't - unless the band had run its course.

Sounds very much like a piano player who has moved over to keyboards. I have experience of this, instead of the odd quip, have a face to face conversation, between you and him - go for a curry and discuss it.

Alternatively

When I first joined the band there was one song that he sewn the bass part up so tight that I just stopped playing and went for a drink. As new material came in, I found my way through this was to let him play him bass lines as this allowed me to explore some of the more rarefied areas of the fret board, when this raised a few eyebrows I stopped and pointed directly at the keyboard player and said he's playing the ****ing bass line that I should play. Made my point and things improved.

I traded an Ibanez MC888 (which was comical to play) I'd like to see it again just to see if it was really a bad as my memory tells me.

Bought a Jazz Bass loom from John, arrived within 24hrs of initial enquiry, wiring diagram and tools included - Installed easily, I can't recommend his work and operation highly enough.

Sold.

Years ago there was a feature on Nathan East in the US Guitar Player Magazine - he recounted the story, that when he started out as a session musician, he found it necessary to call the telephone company to make sure that there wasn't a problem with his line, he received so few calls.

Replied.

For Sale is my Bergantino NV115. This was bought new from Bass Direct in March 2014.

Price £400 not open to trades

Selling due to now making up with my Mesa Walkabout after a trial separation and three is a crowd.

I'm based near Chester, but work in Warrington and can meet in a reasonable radius of these places.

Happy to post/ship at buyers expense. Once cleared funds are in my hand/account

Paypal (no expense to me), Cash (always nice and often overlooked)

PM me for further answers.

Yep, you can play fretless in any genre, (*thinks* personally I switch off when I hear one of those guys who have just discovered Jaco, or have attached a Chorus pedal to it, other than this), I say go for it.

When playing I'm usually more concerned with my band playing the material correctly and not pratting about between numbers; the general ambition is that people will dance and enjoy their evening, but we get asked to play wedding gigs, rather than us seek them out. so hopefully they know what they're about to receive.

I'm well aware of musical factions, but it all comes back to playing music to the best of your ability.

A few years ago, one of my bands attended the local 'muso venue' on the open mic night, we played Zappa's Zoot Allures, a structured piece, with no 'jamming' or noodling solo BS, this killed the 'muso' conversation and 'attitude' that night, oh, how we laughed.

Bought an EBS cab from Steve, I'm a very happy customer, price, communication and packaging excellent.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1420453946' post='2649416']
That is why we give the singer the final sanction ...they choose the key and they then have to deliver it.
If either of those things don't work, then we have to drop the song. I've had many a great suggestion, IMO, dropped
because of that..but you trust the singer is doing it for the right reasons rather than just doesn't want to do it..
This is where you need trust and a good band ethic about it and that is why you also need to keep everyone pulling
in the same direction for as long as posible, but as time wears on, this gets harder to do to any reasonable level
as loads of other stuff can get in the way.
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The vocals are the main thrust of our band, we have four vocalists who can take a lead vocal and this also provides strong combinations of backing vocals.
If one can't sing something we try it amongst the others or a male and female vocal doubled, but if its really not working then we move on. Given their own choice of material, I know from bitter experience that they'd occupy there own comfort zone, so it works best if they're given a little (ahem) 'direction' - the thing is, for all of the 'cussing and fussing they really do like to bask in the post gig feed back, of 'you don't hear such and such live' or 'so much better than the typical bands that we see here"

Weird thing is that we never choose material based upon tasty bass lines.

I'd agree in part, the material has to suit the vocalist(s) and to this end we work out if a given song indeed be sung, but we don't generally have issues of 'I don't really like it, therefore I'm not going to try' or 'its beneath my musical intellect'

How do we agree on new songs?

We don't. There's always a compromise from someone.

I can recommend Craig Charles' 6 music programme [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0072ky7"]http://www.bbc.co.uk...rammes/b0072ky7[/url]

Taped the programme; I'll have to be in the right mood to watch it... As a TV format, its a party with multiple live performances, for me it doesn't warrant critical scrutiny.

[quote name='Jenny_Innie' timestamp='1419952100' post='2644261']
The clue is in the title of the post.
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And 'conclusion' is in your post...

Best wishes