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    Is British rock and metal now a cottage industry?

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    Just now, Woodinblack said:

    I believe (litteraly like on the other thread, genre unspecific), its not the old school approaches or that rock dinosaurs are still going strong, its that those old rock groups have a following that I don't think it is possible to get today. They got their following when it was still possible to get it.

    This is why there is no one to replace them and why groups today doing exactly the same thing as groups did before won't get anything like the following that those groups got.

    Not just rock, how many groups are there actually? Look at the charts, how many groups get in the charts at all? Its mostly solo singers (or singers featuring..).

    I think the old school guys got on the road to escape the tedium of every day life and see a bit of the world and have a laugh. They started of as not particularly good, with little expectations of a career let alone any money and got great through repetition and creating their own scenes. This (after Covid) must still be achievable. The motivation can’t be record sales anymore as they don’t really exist even if the bands are household names.

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    Is it the end of the road for Icons?

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    12 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

    Now music is basically valueless, you can hear it everywhere, and the tribalism and intense listening to one group is not really something that does the same now. Music shows are about some singer, as the only one that matters (hense the lack of groups), and xfactor type shows are shown as the way to get famous.

    Its just the age it is now, the era of the band is sort of over

    This is possibly true. I do wonder if too much emphasis is put on social media by bands and festival promoters though in terms of reaching audiences and booking bands. A band may have a lot of followers and a well produced album but if they can’t deliver something magic live they won’t succeed unlike the pop world where hired guns and visuals and choreography go a long way.

    On top of this without the camaraderie and fun experiences of touring bands won’t last long as the financial rewards from record sales and streaming just aren’t there.

    Is it the end of the road for Icons?

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    5 minutes ago, Merton said:

    Similar theme to this thread (though that is focussed on British bands only): 

     

    Hi yes that’s the one I referred to. I was thinking rock in general and more about touring and not relying on social media and festivals which appear to be the route in these days. The problem is rock audiences don’t just want the Spotify stream reproduced live and minor bands on the festival circuit tend to be ignored by media and festival goers as alike. Didn’t comment on that thread as it’s British rock only with a metal emphasis.

    Is it the end of the road for Icons?

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    After watching “What drives us” documentary something Flea said chimes with the thread on here about Download festival and the dinosaur mega bands.

    Flea commented on how all the big rock bands such as RHCP, Metallica, Foo Fighters, U2 are still going and are the only bands that can fill big arenas. As if a wall was erected in the late 90’s and no one can get over it.

    The documentary focussed on reaching an audience the old school way. On the road in a van, forging bonds with your band mates and just getting good through constantly playing and direct audience feedback.

    Is the rock icon dead? Or do bands need to go back to basics to break down that wall?

    Edit: have put constantly in bold as it’s what these guys did. Not a couple of 10 date tours a year. Constantly playing, improving and learning to get along with each other.

    Unexpected collaborations

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    36 minutes ago, Nail Soup said:

    I love this song. 
    However I suspect that there were a bunch of female singers from within the Bad Seeds circle who could have performed it as well, and that the Kylie thing was done purely because it was unexpected.

    I think Cave was a friend of Michael Hutchins (INXS) and persuaded him to speak to Kylie about it. I believe he wrote it with Kylie in mind.

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