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    Is now good time to be buying 'quality' musical instruments

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    8 hours ago, drTStingray said:

    I must say if I found a Ray being sold by a struggling muso, and it was a model I was really after, you wouldn’t catching me offering a low ball price, in fact I would be more than happy to pay a going rate and probably more - I’d be more than happy to outbid the ‘flippers’. If I did pay a low ball price, I would most certainly feel I was taking advantage of such a person, who you could consider to be in a ‘vulnerable’ position - there is a distasteful side to capitalism imho! 
     

    Very ethical of you. Personally I look at buying and selling things very dispassionately.

    Value is relative. When there are lots of buyers for a scarce object it’s value goes up and the reverse is also true.

     I wanted a Stingray for years but there were few for sale and many people that wanted one. I bid what I could afford and constantly lost out on bids. Was the seller unethical? They were getting as much as they could so not really.

    In the last 12 months there have been more 2EQ 4H’s on the market (colour, year, neck composition didn’t matter) so I continued to bid and got one at slightly less than my previous top bids. This was its going value! It was what someone was willing to pay at the time. The seller was happy. I was happy. In a few years I may sell it for more or less depending on circumstances (both personal and wider economic). There is no morality unless someone takes pleasure out of someone else’s misfortune.

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    Is now good time to be buying 'quality' musical instruments

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    2 minutes ago, Telebass said:

    No such thing. If you're happy with your kit and it does the job, then it's as professional and posh as it needs to be. Amp and speakers must obviously be able to do whats needed. My main, in fact only, bass is a parts bass. Best I've ever used, bar one, which was another parts bass I stupidly sold...

    No such thing to a musician. Definitely such a thing to a collector. Both my favourite bases are not worth much. One is a Bitsa I have devalued, one is a brand associated with producing dross.

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    Is now good time to be buying 'quality' musical instruments

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    On 01/06/2021 at 18:43, Jus Lukin said:

    There are plenty of quotations similar to the one from Baron Rothschild- I'm sure Machiavelli has few crackers on the subject. If that's the angle you are coming from, then it is a good time to buy, in the same way (but less drastic) that 1929-33 was a 'good' time to buy farmland in the US. Personally, I abhor that kind of kick-'em-when-they're-down capitalism, but it does have a pretty big following around the globe.

    I would consider that a sad time to be able to buy at lowered prices- but that sure ain't the Rothschild way.

    From a moral perspective you are absolutely correct but from a practical perspective when someone buys a depreciating asset the risk is transferred to them. It was worth Y it’s now worth X it may eventually be worth Z.
    Z could ultimately be higher or lower depending on personal or historical circumstance. 
     

    That said it’s been a sorry couple of years for many many people and anyone impacted has my sympathy. I am replying from an economic rather than a humanist perspective. This is how economics works. I remember discussing the ethics of companies exploiting areas blighted by natural disasters. My perspective was it was evil. A friend who makes his living in finance pointed out it was necessary. The risk of trading in these areas was high as crime and population loss was rife. If the exploiting companies didn’t offset the risk they wouldn’t bother. If they didn’t bother supplies wouldn’t exist and the situation would never return to normal as competitors lured by profit wouldn’t move in. As enough companies moved in they would all have to adjust prices to be competitive and a normal market would eventually be established. Anyhow off topic. I would still maintain that now is a good time to invest in quality instruments. Normality will eventually come round.

     

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    What is the heaviest you comfortably listen to?

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    5 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

    Party cannon are the group on that poster that is around (Probably also on this thread somewhere) that stand out as the only non-conforming metal group - ie, all the other groups are in white text on black with spidery scrawly can't-really-read font, and party canon are baloon letters in colour!

    Ta. Just played them on you tube. Not my bag. They appear to have a creature from a bad sci-fi film as a lead singer.

    What is the heaviest you comfortably listen to?

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    32 minutes ago, Bolo said:

    There's always Party Cannon.

    The choice is between innocent pop music which is adults singing about how badly they want to make love to teenagers, hip hop about how badly they want to do crime, metal about how people should stop doing awful thing (and naming all those thing in gross detail), or jazz about skeee bop bop dowop paah.

    Not heard of party canon. Pop increasingly seems to be compromised of actual teenagers singing about being teenagers, hip hop has developed a social conscience so in some ways going full circle. I have no idea about new metal bands. I’m still stuck in the Motörhead/Sabbath dark ages. 
    Edit: Forgot Jazz. Will add blues to this. Another poster on Basschat is in a blues band and described his audience as “grey hairs and no hairs” which is my experience of going to gigs of the genre. Real shame and needs new blood and energy. Thankfully metal seems to keep re-inventing itself and has so far escaped the demise.

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