martthebass

Just picked up a mint condition Overwater Perception Fretless Deluxe for less than £550 from the bay........good deal?

[quote name='bottomfeed' post='593017' date='Sep 8 2009, 04:29 PM']hmmm.... at that price it's worth the drive up north to collect!..... if it was with a maple board, I wouldn't hesitate....
I'm having a basic 5 made with a maple board in greenburst [i](...ready early Nov)[/i] through Jam Guitars... but it's costing me a lot more... & one less pickup!.... hmmmm.... [/quote]

Nice bit of rosewood on this one as I recall.

They'd make a nice matching pair.

I compared this KT5 with a basic 4 banger - the second pickup did bring in a lot more tonal options without causing me all the confusion that my old G&L L2.5K did.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='591224' date='Sep 6 2009, 09:52 AM']Indeed Mart - The prices have increased so a 5-string Streamline is now £1495 before you start adding any options...

Here's my Streamline in action at a recent wedding - And the rest of my motley crew...



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Who says the Streamline looks weird........suits you down to the ground Rich

I think at nearly £1500 I might have to contain myself regarding the 5er, but I'm enjoying the 4 banger enough for it not to matter.
The fretless GAS should imminently be relieved by another (not Status) british bass.

Lovely bass this, missed it as soon as I sold it. It was easily as good as my old ray 5 but it took me a while to realize it. If I had any use for a fiver (and hadn't just turned the cash into an Overwater Perception Deluxe fretless) I think I'd buy it back.

That is a lot of bass for the money T.

I had one of these last year but had to let it go after a case of incurable GAS. I got £700 in trade value at Electro for it which shows what a bargin this is.
The only thing I could fault was the semifinished feel of the headstock but seing as yours is a 'painted' version that aint a problem here.

[quote name='silddx' post='589767' date='Sep 4 2009, 03:33 PM']I nearly ordered a Streamline. But Rob told me it was Precision width nut (which I can't get on with) and couldn't do a Jazz width. I still really fancy one though.[/quote]

Mines 42mm at the nut. I find the profile fast and comfortable and I played Jazzes exclusively for years. You should try one S - it might suprise you.

[quote name='The Burpster' post='587957' date='Sep 2 2009, 08:54 PM']innert compound of carbon.

Composite has a differant tonal quality because it is so dense. Aluminium necks and the odd neck through Alu, basses likewise have a unique tonal quality and sustain because of the material density. ( a similar tonal change can be noted by changing to a brass nut on a wood bass).

The sticky out bits are neccassary because the neck is considerably heavier because of its construction as above, this affects the COG and hence needs some help. The Spirit being lighter doesnt need this assistance (same as my Hohners didnt).

I've not tried a Synapse but when I get the chance to I will - out of curiosty. For me tho' it would have to be the original XL-2 or a Status Streamline 4 which is an up-to-date evolution of the original idea using todays tech for the construction.

The wooden ones are a facsimilie of the original idea but they aren't the same.[/quote]

Thanks for that info B.

I thought about one of the Synapses but in the end went for OTPJ's old Streamline.

These are fairly lightweight but still feel substantial (7lbs on a small body) but balance well. Does anybody know if these are wooden cored?
Like the old Steinys these feel 'hard to break'.

The sad thing is this went for less than £380 on the bay. I missed it - gutted

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='586156' date='Aug 31 2009, 11:15 PM']Yes, I think it's about six months, Mart - And as I believe I told you at the time, once you've experienced the Status sound and playability, everything else sort of fades into the background Glad you're enjoying it, though. The Streamline's definitely my favourite at the moment, although I've ended up playing this particular show on an S2 5-er as the part has some extra low bits to deal with.

What's next on the menu, Mart? S2-Classic? For me, I think it's going to be a Streamline 5-string (if Rob can still do them in the old "melted boiled sweet shape!")

Rich.[/quote]

Not sure Rich, got a bit of fretless GAS at the moment but I don't really get on with fretless graphite necks (once had a Status neck on a Jazz and didn't like the sound at all). I would love a Streamline 5er - If I could pick one up for about £1200 I'd have one but I think I'll have to wait a bit before they start coming onto the 2nd hand market

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='585676' date='Aug 31 2009, 11:36 AM']Well, Status wins through again. Took My Fender Jazz/Sadowsky pre combination as well as the Streamline to the band call for two weeks of the "Footloose" stage show starting this week. Tried the jazz and it just wouldn't cut through the rest of the band (trumpet, saxes, guitar, piano, bass, drums.) The sound was just buried! Strangely enough it sounds much cleaner and more prominent through the MarkBass rig with the horn units, but that's way too much for a theatre.

Once I plugged in the Streamline, it cut through everything else like a scythe - Much better

So for the dress rehearsal this evening, I'll take the Streamline & one of the 5-string S2's... Seems that as usual, there's no substitute!

Rich.[/quote]

+1

How long have I had your old Streamline Rich..........hmmm 6 months? Usually by now I'm getting bored with a bass and wondering what I could replace it with. Not this time.

[quote name='King Tut' post='586074' date='Aug 31 2009, 09:11 PM']I have to echo the comments about the angle of the dangle! The early ones were worse because the strap peg was on the top side of the top horn. Shifting it to the bottom face of the top horn helps - I do find them uncomfortable though compared to a fender - which is a shame cos otherwise they're crackers![/quote]

That's about how I remember it with my 1982 T3. It wasn't heavy as such but being neck heavy it wasn't comfortable to play stood up for any length of time.

I've been looking at the T2 v2 Fretless on the bay, it looks pretty much like my old T3 (except for the colour of the pup and TR covers being cream instead of black) but based on what's been said above £300 seems a bit on the steep side. Having said that, IIRC I paid £270 new for mine back in the day.

I've played and owned both in my time. If I'm honest I do prefer the Jazz fretless, but I'm only an occasional doodler on F'less and for fretted the Status and Ray are more than adequate for my needs. Just toying with the idea of spending less on a T3 but don't want to 'overspend' just in case I decide to move it on at some point in the future.

[quote name='Beedster' post='585131' date='Aug 30 2009, 02:38 PM']Hardly describe Westone as Japcrap [/quote]

Hmmm, slip of the tongue.

Had one of these many moons ago (bought new - old git that I am). Suddenly had a hankering for one, trying to decide whether to spend £600 on a Fretless Jazz or considerably less on a fretless T3

Just quickie.....what would be a sensible price for a good condition early eighties Thunder 3?

Cheers, Mart

This would be just right for me;

Fretless: Check

Black: Check

Lightweight: Check

£875: Ahh, that's that buggered then (px with MM Ray + Cash?)

Well back to the drawing board.

+1
Wish I could find a bit more cash A - I'd have that fretless off you in a shot

[quote name='Moos3h' post='578456' date='Aug 23 2009, 07:36 PM']Pair of pliers....£3
Good quality hacksaw...£7
Knowing that you've just ruined your instrument...priceless.

Go on, be a man, give DIY a go [/quote]

Think I'll file that with DIY dentistry (knowing my woodworking skills)........

Thanks all for the info.

Sad thing is, I know that as soon as I've bid someone will post a vgc MIA Jazz fretless on the for sale board for £575 and I'll let outthat Blackadder like scream.

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, but I'm looking at bidding on a fretted bass that I'd like as a fretless (having had no look finding a factory fretless to my taste/budget over the last few weeks).

So.....what is the cost of a professional defret these days? I would be looking at maple lines in a r/w board (or white plastic if the cost is excessive). Also any recommnedations for the work to b done in the Sheffield/Donny area (I've already thought of Jon Shuker but I don't know if this sort of stuff is beneath him now )

Cheers, Mart

Lovely Bass Chris and I'd love to replace my old SR5 but I'm a couple hundred light,

Good luck with the sale tho.

[quote name='solo4652' post='577034' date='Aug 21 2009, 07:35 PM']Yes, yes, I know - I'm not fond of them myself! But, when it makes the difference between being able to play a bass, and not - it's time to just get on with it. I wish I could master the floating thumb technique but, try as I might, I can't.[/quote]

I know where you're coming from. I've never had a problem playing on the pup but I can see that it wouldn't exactly coax a warm sound out of a fretless. Never been good at floating thumb either. btw I think the Ray 20th anni F'less went for about £830ish in the end (not to me tho) - strange it failed to sell at £800 the first time around.

Good decision. But................thumbrest:rolleyes:

Is this the tiger stripe ebony?

I've seen some with striations in the TS type but not one that looks as 'unique' as this. If you don't like it send it back, on buying a new bass in my view cosmetics are a valid reason for rejection.

Hello my new dream bass.....

Don't know how much 'sonic' or playability differences there are between the Fender TF and the std American Jazz. ET had my old Jazz frettless (1999) and swapped it out in favour of the TF so I'd expect it's a reasonable upgrade. I've played both lined and unlined and personally don't think it makes much difference (as long as the side dots are on the fret) - it only makes a difference if you want to make a statement to the audience that you're playing a fretless.

I was more than happy with the sound of the Jazz, nice and woody and with much more mwah and subtlety than the Status necked Jazz (and previously Westone T3) that it replaced. Only problem I seem to have a the minute is picking up another used one at my budget of £600. Tsk

[quote name='Eight' post='566317' date='Aug 11 2009, 10:10 PM']Here we go again...

I just whacked the headstock off the corner of a wall in a door way. Looked at the poor thing and saw some horrible white marks which I could only assume were paint chips down to the wood... except they wiped off... turns out I've taken a good chunk out of the wall and once again the bass has come away from the battle unharmed and completely unblemished. Thank f*ck!

All hail German build quality.[/quote]

Maybe you should buy a Status (headless obviously)