Higgie

Hi all! Recently picked up this wonderful bass on here.

With the unusual pickup arrangement, I think I’d like to compliment it with a slightly more interesting finish than sunburst. Nothing TOO outlandish, something subtle but still eye catching (oxymoron, I know).

A lot of the colours I like (pastel shades, sea foam green, daphne blue etc) I think look better with a darker fingerboard like rosewood or ebony, so I think a darker body colour might be nice to contrast/compliment the maple fingerboard on this particular bass. Having said that, i’d welcome any and all suggestions!

On to my second question - anyone have any suggestions/experience/recommendations on who I can get to do said refin?

Thanks in advance for your input!

Recently bought a bass from Paul - Absolute gent to deal with!

I replaced the LEDs in my Boss LS2 and replaced the knobs so that they aligned with the LED colours for a Lehle switching unit I’ve got, to make it easier to confirm which inputs/outputs instruments were being routed to. I was pretty pleased with the result!

Here we have probably the best value for money rackmount mixer/IEM rig there is. 
 

Inside the rack is:

Behringer X32 Rack

Behringer S16 Stage Box

Behringer P16D

The rack case has had an IEC input mounted on one side, so you can literally take the rack lids off and plug power into the side, and you’re ready to go.

32 XLR inputs, 16 XLR outputs across the 2 units (Mixer/stage box), as well as various 1/4” Aux ins and outs. The P16D can be used with Behringers powerplay monitor units, allowing musicians to have stereo monitor mixes without taking up any of the XLR outputs. 
 

Add your own router, and everyone in the band can connect to it with an iPad/iPhone and the X32 app, allowing everyone to mix their own IEMs, and the sound man to mix FOH from an iPad out front, drastically reducing sound check times. 

Also a great unit to have in the studio to record and track multiple instruments. It has the USB card installed so it can be used as a 32 In/32 Out audio interface. Used with a laptop you can record your live gigs, while still taking care of FOH and everyone’s monitoring. It really is a great bit of kit!

I’ve used X32’s (not this one) on all levels of gigs, from small functions to large theatres, and they are exceptional value for money. 
 

This particular unit has only done 3 gigs with me since I bought it, and was originally a “backup X32” rig of the guy I bought it from. I bought it to use as an IEM rig for a project I was involved with that never ended up doing much live stuff, and I kept it around just in case as it’s such a handy bit of gear to have. It’s in excellent condition, with the only thing of note being the little tab on the XLR Input 8 being missing. The input still works perfectly. 
 

If you or your band are looking to take the plunge into the world of IEM’s, you can’t go wrong with these. 
 

1 hour ago, Sibob said:

Sorry for the radio silence on this thread, been a hectic weekend of ill family members and changes plans. I appreciate everyone mucking in their thoughts on this!
 

 

For sure, that’s the thing though, by the time I’ve bought a Distro and an Isolator from Gigrig (as used they’re quite rare) I’m not far off getting a used Cioks Sol or Ojai as you say. 
 

This exercise is trying to get the quietest setup (ie isolated if possible) for as little money as possible, utilizing the fact that I already have a Diago PowerStation and the original Stomp PSU. 
 

I was vaguely aware of these, it would work do isolate the tuner, but doesn’t have enough output to power the HX Stomp. That said, I’m still yet to find an answer to this question (which I haven’t asked here yet). Does using an isolation block on just one pedal technical isolate both pedals from one another? Is it actually not necessary to isolate both pedals from one another?!

 

Cheers

Si 

If you have two pedals powered from the same supply, and you isolate one of them, then the other should also be isolated, as there are only two pedals and neither can “see” the other. That’s my understanding of it anyway. Distributor and Isolator is the way to go I reckon. GigRig Virtual Battery will also act as a single isolator.

8 hours ago, GR7G5TER said:

 

Jason has the solution you are looking for.

 

https://pedalnetics.com/product/2-5mm-power-split-cable/

That cable won’t isolate the Stomp from the tuner, which is what Si wants to do. 

You could also run the Stomp off a GigRig Distributor/Mr Universe combo and have the tuner powered directly from the Distributor, but it would be more cost effective to buy an Isolator to power the tuner and feed the Stomp directly from the Distributor.

GigRig Distributor into Isolator. Power the Stomp off the Distributor, tuner off the Isolator, all from either the Diago or Line 6 psu.

That sucks. Nice to hear the positive outcome though - Peterson seem like great people as well as making superb tuners.

21 hours ago, bassbora said:

I still have the Bass Player mag which features Flea (Feb 92) and in the interview he says he used Mu-Tron for Sir Psycho Sexy.  It was running out of battery and he did the track.  Then they changed the battery but it did not sound the same so they kept the first take.

 

Interestingly he says he is using Boss filter live because he cant get the Mu-Tron to work right onstage.  I always wanted a envelope follower (it was called that in the interview and not a filter) because of Flea talking about it.  It never said which one and in the signal diagram used it just says Boss Envelope Follower and I always wanted to know what that was.  Does anyone have a clue?  Anyway I bought my first pedal in 94.  Looked at all the Boss pedals but none said Envelope Follower and I had seen two or three players in BP articles using OC2 so I just got that.  I had no idea what to do with it so I barely plucked it in.  Those were the days before the internet where you had no one to ask questions and you just had to guess lol

I think it was the Boss FT-2 he had. I owned one previously and it’s a pretty underrated filter. Really musical sounding and unobtrusive.

10 hours ago, mike f said:

I’ve always thought he just switched to the DOD for that part, sounds like it to me but thinking about it if he had a Mutron there to record Sir Psycho Sexy then you’re probably correct.

From owning both in the past I’d say with almost 100% certainty that’s the DOD on Power of Equality

As @ped says, without a blend knob, BP/HP modes are all but unusable. Fixing it to LP only is the way to go if you will only ever run a bass guitar through it.

I used to have 2 heads and a number of different cabs before I went down the IEM route.

I had 2 Darkglass Microtube 900 V1 heads, one of which would live in the guitarist's van with my Epifani UL410 so when we on gigs together, I already had a rig in his van with his gear and the PA. The other Darkglass lived at home with the choice of a Bergantino AE410, AE210, and AE112 depending on the situation. I found that combination of gear was super flexible for all my needs, as most of the gigs I did travelling with the guitarist were theatres, where the 410 was more than enough, and anything I did aside from projects with him gave me a 410 for bigger gigs, 210 for medium gigs, and 112 for rehearsals/minimal backline gigs. I eventually sold the second rig (DG Head and Epi 410) as I was doing more IEM stuff, and then the Berg 410 and 112 went the same way as the 210 was more than capable of anything that didn't require big PA/IEM.

Once most of the function bands I played/depped with went to IEM too, I sold the second DG head and Berg 210 because I came to the realisation that there was no point having such an expensive rig when only 2% of my gigs needed an amp, and I could just buy a Fender Rumble 500 210 Combo to just chuck in the car on the odd occasion I need an amp. Been very impressed with this combo. Light, loud and sounds good. What's not to like? I do mostly theatre pit work nowadays and only need the amp for the odd function that's not on IEMs, so it's perfect for that. 

Having said all this, I'd love a DB750 again 😝

Just finished putting this together for my next tour:

It's a bit convoluted for something that looks pretty simple! On the next tour I will be doubling on electric and upright, so the sound man wants a separate feed for each. I, on the other hand, only want one volume pedal, and one tuner for both instruments, which means they will both have to share a section of the signal path. The Lehle Acouswitch popped up for sale here and I worked out that between that and an LS-2, I can do what I need. The Lehle has two inputs, so the upright will go into Input A (as this input goes through the preamp/EQ section) and my Sadowsky P will go into Input B (as this doesn't go through the preamp). The only actual effect I need on this tour is an Octave pedal, so the Octamizer can sit at the back of the board in the Lehle's loop and be brought in and out of the chain with the footswitch on the Lehle. The last thing in the chain is the second effects loop on the Lehle which is always active (no switch). In there I put the Peterson tuner (in monitor mode so the readout is always active, but the pedal isn't muting the signal) and then the signal is routed out of a TRS Mini Mod to the volume pedal that is off the board using a Y splitter. The signal comes back into the board then hits the LS-2 set to A<->B Mode. Send A goes back to the Return of the Lehle, and Send B goes to the Khan DI.

Whenever you switch instruments with the Lehle, you switch outputs with the Boss accordingly. I modded my LS-2 to have blue and white LEDs to match the blue/white channel select LED on the Lehle. So although you have to hit 2 switches to change instruments, all you have to do is make sure the LEDs on both units are the same, which will ensure each instrument goes to the correct DI Out. I put the LS-2 as close to the Lehle A/B switch as possible to make it as convenient as possible.

Signal chain is:

Upright --> Lehle Channel A

Electric --> Lehle Channel B

Lehle Loop 1 Send --> Octamizer --> Lehle Loop 1 Return

Lehle Loop 2 Send --> Peterson Strobostomp Mini --> Dunlop DVP4 --> Boss LS-2 In

Boss LS-2 Send A --> Lehle Loop 2 Return --> XLR Out to Desk (Upright)

Boss LS-2 Send B --> Khan VTDI --> XLR Out to Desk (Electric)

I like being able to roll my volume pedal off to tune, and this setup will allow me to do that for both basses, with one volume pedal and one tuner. The Lehle also has a mute switch that sends the signal to the Tuner Out, but I wouldn't be able to roll off the volume pedal to tune in that configuration, so I doubt that switch will get used much. I've used a Rockboard MOD to keep all my ins and outs neat and tidy.

I also drilled out one of the side holes of the Rockboard to accept a PowerCON connector, which I've soldered two IEC's on to. One goes to the GigRig Generator under the board for the pedals, the other right angled IEC comes through the top of the board to power the Khan VTDI.

All 1/4" cables are made up of Squareplug SP400 jacks and Mogami 2319 cable, all XLR cables are Van Damme and Switchcraft low profile right angle XLRs. The Y Split for the volume pedal is a Squareplug SP550S (TRS) to 2 Squareplug SPS4 TS jacks. I like the Squareplugs as not only are they super low profile and well made, they sell different colour screws that you can use to ID your cables. I have orange on the jack that plugs into the Output of the volume pedal, so I (and any potential deps) will know which jack goes where.

If you got this far without falling asleep, congratulations - you're as much of a nerd as I am! 🤣

Would the internals still fit in a Future Compact case?

The fact this is still here is an absolute crime!

18 hours ago, Sharkfinger said:

+1

I have the version of the CE6P (CE6B?) that favoured bass frequencies but don't see that on their site now.  Pretty sure  @Higgie has CE IEMs as well.

Yes I use the CE6B models. I'm afraid they have since been discontinued as I found out recently when going to buy another pair. Cosmic informs me they are able to modify their 6P model to give a more 6B like response, but are also apparently bringing a new model out that will "replace" the 6B in their line up, so I'm waiting for those to drop before I make my mind up on whether to get those or some modified 6Ps. Another thing for me to bear in mind is, now I'm using a Porter and Davies BC2 stool, the added low end of the 6B can be too much at times, so maybe this time round I will just get the 6P for a flatter response.

13 hours ago, MrT-Bass said:

Thanks mate, it's an amazing pedal and really versatile. Unfortunately, it's not being used on my board and I'm trying to rationalise my collection down.

I’m trying to do the same, or i’d have this as a backup!

This is an absolute steal. My Subspace is my favourite drive pedal i’ve ever owned. Awesome bit of kit!

What’s the weight like?

Bump...No love for this absolutely awesome interface? These were more than three times the price listed here when new, and you'd pay more than that for the newer Duet 3! 

Looks like its a preamp pedal based on the AG amp. Looks promising!

On 04/07/2023 at 16:38, woodyratm said:

Ohh reading it just now. 70% lighter and made of ABS vs the aluminium? 

It’s 70% of the weight of the G1 - ie 30% lighter. It’s not heavy by any means, but thought it would be worth clarifying in case you expected it to weigh less than it does!

On hold pending payment

Still sealed in it’s postage box!