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The impression I get is that Jaco's reputation is built heavily on Birdland and Havona, which is hairy muff, as they say, both being masterpieces. His reputation with [i]me[/i] is based more or less solely on 1:46 in the album version of Birdland, I'll say no more. Beyond that, I would agree that his album was pretty forgettable. I hesitate to say this, but I sometimes feel Jaco has benefitted from what I call 'Lennon syndrome'. However patchy you were in life, if you suffer an untimely death you can rest assured of eternal life as a legend. Horrible thing to say, but I find it to be true...

Saturday gig - town twinning ceremony. Exceptionally weird. Incredibly embarrassingly playing from discreetly placed music as 10 new songs with 1 rehearsal. Windy. Marquee. Forgot pegs. Played most of gig staring over singer's head. 10 minute set up, 5 minute set down. Preceded by morris dancers. Strangest most frantic 'gig' I've ever done.

[quote name='queenofthedepths' post='187053' date='Apr 28 2008, 10:53 AM']To us it's just friendly banter; not a waste of time at all! I'm a student so I have nothing to do except r*v*s* for easy *x*ms, so today I'll get 3 hours of band rehearsal and plenty of practise on my own as well as a lot of time "wasted" socialising on basschat... instead of watching TV, which is what you call productive? Sorry again if I seem rude, but please stop trying to bring us down for having a fun discussion - arguments like "OMG how can you say The Ox is over-rated?!! He's the best thing ever!" are all part of the fun - telling us the discussion is futile is just unreasonable - it's just bass chat! If I say Cliff Burton is over-rated (and I do), it's because thousands of Metallica fans seem to worship him, which, IMO, is more than he deserves... Flea gets the same treatment and so do many others - the fact that they're better bassists than I am doesn't enter into it - I can have opinions on the merits of flautists but I've never even touched a flute* Anyone can be over-rated and we're all entitled to state our opinions - in fact, I WANT to know what people think *I'm pretty sure someone will drag an innuendo out of them[/quote] +100000000 In [i]your[/i] endo. Would it be fair to say that the general feeling of this thread is noodlers and showoffs = bad therefore presumably rock-solid groovemasters = good? Maybe I'd better give up on trying to learn to double-thumb. But [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAs0IBmBiOk"]this[/url] is just so funky...

[quote name='silverfoxnik' post='186122' date='Apr 26 2008, 07:38 PM']The original post - by a member of Basschat, asked fellow Basschat members - who we thought were overrated. Therefore, it's a question about our opinions here, not about the achievements of the bassists in question out there in the 'wider world'.. So IMHO, it's just a harmless way to pass the time and definitely not a way to start arguements.. [/quote] +1 I don't think anyone here [i]expects[/i] the wider world to care what we think. But it's still fun to think it! Agree with practically everyone already mentioned, except Jaco. Sure he's only very very niche famous, as it were, but damn the man could play. I can't think of anyone like him before or since. To me people like Victor Wooten and Les Claypool are the Eddie Van Halens of bass - fun for a minute or so but then you just wish they'd slow down and stop showing off. Overrated for me - Michael Manring.

Most of the focus in this isn't on bass, but I thought I'd post it anyway, because keeping that tight in such a ridiculously difficult song at such a breakneck pace is...mental. Props! I have no idea who the guy is, but...legend. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIGsSLCoIhM"]Skunk Funk[/url] Edit: might as well have some more Brecker Brothers, one of my favourite basslines ever [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIBaR3b1jWA"]Straphangin'[/url]

1. Drummers who give a different bass drum rhythym every verse, even, god forbid, every [i]bar[/i], for no readily apparent reason except maybe that they suck. 2. Everybody in bands who isn't a singer or a bassist. For me it's turn up, plonk amp down, plug in, go. For everybody else it's 4 hours of cabling, one two one two, setting up 412 different clean channels. Drummers maybe excepted because it does honestly take some time to build a kit. Especially when I'm making a cup of tea instead of getting stuck in... None of this winds me up much, though. I've found a simple solution to being told how to play bass: the silent stare. Works like a charm!

This thread has given me such bad GAS, I think it's peppermint tea time.

Wilkommen, bienvenue! I've only just arrived myself. Please drive on the left. A music man and a Rick - one bass I've always been intrigued by and one I'd probably cry if I were lucky enough to own. Is nice! Live the dream Jon

Since I'm online: a very warm welcome to you! I'm a newb here as well. So far, it's an interesting and useful place... South Wales? No, sorry, but for many years I did live just across the border and made many forays into the valleys. God's own country - especially if you've got a mountain bike. All the best Jon

One other thing you may need to think about depends on whether you're buying new or not: dealer support. I just emailed GK about the new Fusion 550 to see what would happen if I bought one there and brought it here, and the immediate thing they said was that the UK distributor would not honour the warranty. Presumably then this is the same for all new GK stuff, don't know about other manufacturers.

That's legend, thanks guys! What ferret says is completely true, wedgey GK cabs don't look exactly easy to stack. The way I figured was that it'd be no harder putting it on top of a flat-top 15" than putting it on the floor - both the 15" top surface and the floor being flat surfaces (in an ideal world). Ian, your second paragraph mentions a 410RBH then a 210 - which did you use with your 15"? I'm gonna have to find a way to try all these combinations out... PS. I know you've got a 1001, I'd rather like it to be mine

Hello chaps, I'm scoping out some possibilities for a rig. First up, please can someone who knows about these things check the below reasoning: The GK 1001RBII contains two amps: a woofer and a horn amp. The GK 210RBH contains separate 10" and horn drivers (I think). Therefore, I could run the 2x10" bit of a 210RBH in parallel with a 1x15", both at 8 ohm, giving me 700W total at 4 ohm through those 3 drivers. The horn driver in the 210RBH could then be driven entirely seperately by the horn amp at 8 ohm, for another 50W. Assuming that all works, and going by things that are reasonably available, does this rig make sense from aesthetic/sound aspects?: GK 1001RBII GK 210RBH Epifani UL115 Any comments very much appreciated! Jon

Just saw this comment on the same video on another forum and laughed out loud: THIS WAS BEYOND SICK. THIS IS JUST DOWN RIGHT ILLEGAL IN ALL 50 STATES. IT HAS TO BE ILLEGAL TO GROOVE THAT HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quite.

Hi all at basschat, Just come across this forum and can't believe I've never seen it before. Looks like a sterling service. Anyhoo: my name's Jon, I'm 24, and I'm from Derby. I've been playing bass for about 8 years now, I think I eventually nagged my Dad into getting me a £100 starter kit and never looked back. Not my first instrument though - I've been playing a variety of wind instruments for nearly 20 years. Still, at the moment bass has priority. Gear: needs upgrading, I'll get to that in a minute. I have a Tobias Toby Pro V which I bought for the looks and which turned out to play rather well too. I love it, and I don't want to change if I can avoid it! I'm still really in the realm of practice combos: I have a Hartke Kickback 15 which does me well enough for practicing at home, and a Torque T2001EB which I bought while still in my 'must get more watts!!!' teenage years, and which sits gathering dust in a cupboard. Style: you could probably call me 'conservative' I much prefer getting into a really good groove using just root and 5th if necessary to flying about all over the fretboard and leaving the poor drummer at a loss. This has the upshot that my right hand has good-ish technique but my left leaves a bit to be desired. Still. I like playing rock, funk, hip-hop, some metal though I'm not very good at it, and I often get roped into playing Sinatra songs. 95% of my playing is fingers, the rest slap and pick, both of which need work. I like a rich, growling, punchy finger sound and sort of 'bang and pop' rather than 'twang' for the slap. To illustrate: on stage I often pluck hard enough to get the bass's on-board electrics to start to clip - because I like that slightly square sound. Do shout up if this is bad practice and there's a better way! So that's me. Now to my problem: my Hartke is a nice little amp but I'm getting roped into more and more gigs and I need something that will hold its own in a full practice and make up a proper backline. Between now and Christmas I've got maybe £1200 to get a stack for this purpose: any suggestions? New/secondhand? I've always lusted after a Gallien-Krueger so at the moment I'm thinking of a 1001RBII or waiting for the new Fusion 550. Given what I've said above does that make sense? I know nothing about cabs though - can anyone help? Please ask any questions. Sorry this is such a damned essay. Jon PS. The Torque T2001EB mentioned above - it's not great, but it works fine. If anyone wants it for a good home please shout up and you can have it, otherwise I'll probably donate to a school if they want it.