Skinnyman

Sold a Behringer X Touch to Andy. Fuss free transaction and an absolute gent.

Exactly how a BC transaction should go.

Thanks Andy!

On hold pending the usual formalities…
 

I bought this a few years ago when we were in a larger house and I had the luxury of a fairly large conservatory to use as a music room. The area where I used to sit and play was some way from my desk and it was always a pain to have to keep remembering to take the mouse over and try not to lose the connection while I was starting and stopping playback and stuff.

So I got this to put on a small stand to give me full control over Logic from right next to my practice chair. It works really well as a remote control in that way but I also found that I really like the hands-on control and it feels much more natural adjusting a physical fader than using a mouse.

The date code on the back says 1606 which I take to mean that it was built in 2016. I bought it new from Gear4music in June 2017.  Condition is excellent, I’ve tested all the motorised faders and everything works as it should. I’ll also update it to the latest firmware when I get a moment.

I used it with Logic but it should work with most if not all DAWs including Ableton and Cubase.

It’s not had a ton of use, especially since lockdown ended and it’s been sat in its box in the spare room since we moved to our current place a year ago. Given that I can now easily touch all four walls from my seat in the new music room, I really have no need for this and I desperately need the space so….£150 seems like a good price to get it gone and a bit of a bargain for somebody given that these are £450+ brand new.
 

I have the original box, power lead and the quick start guide (I can’t remember if there was a full instruction manual in the box or whether that’s online only. If I find one, I’ll put it in.). 
 

I’d prefer not to ship if possible but if you’re interested, PM me and we can discuss options. 
 

Thanks for looking, here are some pics

7 hours ago, Downunderwonder said:

How is a quantum computer any different from what we use today aside from being faster?

Current encryption technology relies on it taking so long to try and break the encryption that it’s not a practical approach. The promise of quantum computers is that, among other things, they will be orders of magnitude faster, making it practical to try many different key combinations. There seem to be legitimate concerns that the encryption approaches we use today will no longer protect the things we want protected. 

Do quantum computers, when they become mainstream, make things a little easier or more challenging for the hacker, I wonder?

Apparently, subscribers/customers of BA, the BBC and Boots have all been targetted in the last few days.

I guess they’ll be moving on to Currys and Costco next….

11 hours ago, lemmywinks said:

 

That's another bonus of a digital desk, you can record your entire gig over USB and the quality is excellent.

I dunno about that. I listened to it later and we were still sh**

1 hour ago, Phil Starr said:

I plumped for the RCF M18, it's gone up in price since then unfortunately. For me it offered all I need in the simplest package, rock solid router connection and in two years not a glitch in the software which is simple and intuitive. The pre's are good too so it sounds great. The Behringer offers a lot more in the way of facilities and flexibility but with a steeper learning curve. I mix from on stage apart from a quick soundcheck so I'll never use most of what I have, nothing on the M18 is more than two clicks away. Basically it is idiot proof which suits me

+1 for the RCF. We had an issue with WiFi dropouts but I got round that by using a tethered usb connection to a cheap android tablet. Since then, rock solid and way more features than we need - but nice to know we have the option. Guitarist Helix gone down? Plug into a hi-z on the RCF. Lost an fox pedal? Put it in the signal chain on the RCF. Need six individual mixes? Record to USB? All covered by the RCF. It really is a fantastic bit of kit…. If I was buying again, it would be a toss up between that and the Zoom Livetrak 

We went down the IEM route last year, even though we play exclusively small pub gigs.
 

Before that, with a loud drummer and an equally loud guitarist, the monitor volumes were stupid and the vocalist still couldn’t hear herself. 
 

I was using a set of ACS moulded plugs that I’ve had for years so I just got the IEM earphones they do that fit into the moulded plugs where the attenuator/filter thingy sits. 
 

We invested in a wireless mixer (which we ended up using with a tethered usb connection to a tablet on account of WiFi dropouts - if we were doing this again, I’d just get the Zoom mixer), which allows six individual mixes to be sent and each of us has got a cheapo Behringer headphone amp and earphones.
 

Instant bliss.

We’ve never sounded better out front and we’re so much tighter now that we can hear each other and ourselves properly. 
 

I’m a convert but - and here’s the great thing - we’ve also played gigs with a hybrid setup where not everyone was using IEMs. We played one, for example, where the bass went through an amp/cab - we still took a DI feed to the mixer so it could be mixed into the individual mixes even though none of the signal went through to FOH.
 

So….there are many different ways to use the technology now available to us and none of them is “right” and none of them is “wrong”.

Vive la difference, eh?

7 hours ago, Frank Blank said:

Quite Edifying Detail, so bang on Rickmansworth.

I used to live in Rickmansworth. 
 

Jus’ sayin’ 

30 minutes ago, Ricky 4000 said:

 

Unless maybe you were worried about getting headphone hair. Which is related to hat hair. 😬

It would be nice to have enough hair left for that to be a consideration.

The main thing I’m taking from this thread is that some people like to ditch the amp and use IEMs and some people prefer to keep their amp and use a monitor. 
 

Anyone who’s ever heard me play would probably prefer me to keep the amp and the IEMs and just ditch the bass 

My last band (I played keys and guitar and left because I started a new job and couldn’t commit the time) are looking for a bass player.

They’re a great bunch of people doing mainly 80s covers. Great drummer, a fairly restrained guitarist and a great female vocalist. I believe they have gigs booked this year, mainly rebookings. 
 

PM me if interested and I’ll pass on details

I have two. A 4003 and a 4003sw. I want to sell one and will be buried with the other. Which one is which varies depending on the day of the week.

Such is the Way of the Ric.

Played my last gig last night. Fittingly, and like most of the others I’ve played over the years, to a half-empty pub that suddenly filled up and came alive for the back end of the second set. 
 

It’s my decision to quit and I certainly won’t missing the load ins and outs or unloading the car at 1:30 in the morning….

….. but I’m still not sure how I feel about it. 

It was surprisingly emotional saying goodbye to the band. Even the guitarist.

9 hours ago, Richard R said:

 

You asked for it, so I think you're out. On the 2021 and 2022 rules that was the case anyway.

Unless it's a bike pedal, in which case you're all good.

That’s me out then.

D’oh

I was given a pedal for my birthday. 
 

I didn’t buy it but I did ask for it. 
 

I can’t determine from the rules whether this is acceptable.

I’m guessing that there’s already been a ruling on this kind of thing but I can’t find it anywhere.

Am I still in or do I need to remove myself, head bowed?

You mean, that’s not the correct way?

*sidles from room to spend rest of evening restringing basses*

9 minutes ago, SteveXFR said:

 

Same goes for bag pipes and ukuleles

I agree about the yodelling and the ukuleles but Niteworks and Wolfstone both make very good use of the pipes, albeit in a rock rather than prog setting. 
 

So, pipes can* be okay.  
 

*Not Mull of bloody Kintyre though. 

1 minute ago, Kitsto said:

I grew up in the 70s so Yes, Floyd, Genesis, Tull were standard fare. I couldn't get on with Soft Machine or Hatfield & The North (maybe they were more fusion?). I was aware of Gentle Giant and Greenslade but somehow never listened to them properly. One of my favourite bands was Strawbs and it was odd how they got labelled prog as if folk + rock = prog. I liked Supertramp but didn't consider them prog. Realise now I maybe should have done (at least on Crime). Have recently been re-immersing myself in Yes Album, Fragile, Close To The Edge, Yessongs (played live that music has even more power) and Six Wives. Crumbs how great those albums were!  

Pretty much this 😁

Strawbs were and still are one of my favourite bands (still going strong and producing new music rather than just rehashing their back catalogue unlike some one might mention…) but I was never sure about the “prog” title. 
 

More obviously prog favourites were Camel, Mike Oldfield, Gentle Giant, Yes, Marrilion, King Crimson and Genesis in roughly that order.

There were others, of course, but these were the ones that I stuck with and still listen to today. 

That said, I could never get into Van Der Graaf Generator or Greenslade - not sure why, they just never captured my attention. 

For so many years, it was the love that dare not speak its name so, finally, I can come out into the open and say it;

I like prog. 
 

There. I’ve said it. 

God, that feels good. 
 

Er….,

I also like jazz.

Don’t hate me. 

My name is Skinnyman and I am a serial GASer. I need help and I sign up here in the hope that, with your support, I can avoid buying any gear this year.

This is a triple challenge for me as I also play guitar and keys in my current band so not only have I to abstain from bass-related acquisitions, I have to stay on the synth and  geetar wagons as well.

All that said, I currently have all of the gear I need for personal and gig use (must keep telling myself that) and Santa brought me a new sequencer, a drum machine and a loop pedal.

Hopefully, this means I’ll be able to actually learn to play some of the gear I’ve got rather than just keep buying and selling it (I do realise that I’m only kidding myself.). 

Thank you, brothers and sisters

I've always liked a bit of Celtic music (Runrig, Wolfstone, etc, etc). I saw these guys the other night on BBC Scotland (Celtic Connections) and got their latest album on the strength of it. Celtic EDM. Nice.

This track is particularly lovely

8 hours ago, Happy Jack said:

The core of my stage rig for keyboards remains a Hammond SK61 with a Korg Kross above it. Between them, those two can deliver pretty much everything I need in both my 5-piece soul band and my 7-piece functions band ... in both of those I supply piano, organ, strings, brass and synth, plus occasional weird 5hit like banjo, accordion and mouth organ.

 

BUT that's "everything I need" rather than "everything I want". 

 

Solution? The Yamaha Reface series. https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/yamaha-reface-series

 

I suppose you could use these as your main stage keyboards but, assuming you already have a decent keyboard or two, there's really no need since you can control them remotely just to get access to the range of sounds.

 

I have no need of the YC seeing as I have a genuine Hammond right there but I've now ended up buying the CS, the DX and the CP. For live use the CS is of quite limited use unless you really like fiddling with knobs and sliders in front of an audience (and your impatient band mates) so I have one 'universal' setting which works where I need it and I just vary the octave in which I use it.

 

The DX is a whole nother thang. Essentially a much-easier-to-use version of the classic DX-7 this allows you to create / download / tweak / store up to 32 presets reachable at the tap of a button, and many of those presets are just breath-taking. It's a superb piece of kit and - unlike the other three - it has an on-board transpose function. The DX now forms the top tier of a 3-level keyboard rig.

 

In another way, the CP is equally gob-smacking. No presets needed, since a rotary knob gives you instant access to a Fender Rhodes Mk.I, a Fender Rhodes Mk.II, a Wurlitzer, and a CP80. You want Stevie Wonder, Supertramp, Michael MacDonald? It's all right there. Don't like the mini-keys or the 37-key restriction? No worries, just slave it to a larger keyboard like the Korg Kross.

 

All three of the Reface series that I now own are merely bolt-on goodies, but my, what goodies they are!

 

I can't leave this without also mentioning the stage stands I now use: https://www.staymusicstands.com/products/supports-for-keyboards/

 

I would happily recommend these to any keyboard player. Very clever and sleek design, very portable.

 

 

Those little Yamahas are the business. I’m just about getting by with the sounds on my Krome but I’m just waiting for us to add the cover song to the set list that justifies me getting the YC.

I tried to buy a Stay stand earlier in the year but there weren’t any available. Fortunately, I managed to get a deal on a used Konig & Meyer Spider but those Stays look like superb value and really neat design. 

Sadly, I can just about afford the Behringer clone….

Jez bought a guitar amp from me. Super smooth transaction (only upset by my inability to type my email address correctly and thus sending the PayPal payment into a strange financial limbo for a while), prompt payment and quick responses to emails. 
 

Exactly the kind of transaction you want on BC. Thanks Jez!