thebigyin

On 30/12/2020 at 10:51, musicbassman said:

What a great player. Here he plays a simple groove but demonstrates loads of great fingerstyle technique - there's muting and stopping, ghost notes and clipping.

And there's a few bass faces as well - enjoy!

 

 

 

Aye great feel and groove....i taught him all he knows lol.

Good lesson Greg, thanks.

Thankyou for the replies and suggestions much appreciated

On 12/10/2020 at 17:45, FDC484950 said:

Modes are scale sequences built on each degree of a scale. So you take the major scale and build scales on each note. 1st degree is Ionian, then Dorian on 2nd degree, etc. This can also inform an appropriate group of notes to play on a chord progression, depending on where a chord sits. Each one conveys a particular sound:

E.g. A VI-III-II-V-I progression in C

VI = Am7, use Aeolian mode

III = Em7, use Phrygian mode

II = Dm7, use Dorian mode

V = G7, use Mixolydian mode

I = Cmaj7, use Ionian mode

Minor keys are different. You tend to use modes from different melodic minor scales within the same chord sequence.

Example II-V-I in C minor

II = Dm7b5, use D Locrian #2 mode from F melodic minor scale

V = G7alt, use G Superlocrian mode from Ab melodic minor scale

I = Cminmaj7 (often substituted as its  written as a plain Cmin or Cmin7 in jazz charts), use C melodic minor scale

Fun fact: in a minor II-V, anything you ply over the II chord using F melodic minor sounds will work shifted up a minor third over the V)

It became more interesting when modes started to be used for their sound in their own right, being held for longer, rather than as part of a standard cycle of fourths chord progression (as above). “Kind of Blue” by Miles Davis is basically a study in major modes, and “Maiden Voyage” by Herbie Hancock also contains lots of so-called “Modal” jazz sounds.

In terms of interesting, most pop/rock music tends to stick to the more prosaic-sounding (major) modes, but when it comes to jazz you can stretch out and substitute a straightforward-sounding mode for a more interesting and exotic sound - which is the basis for reharmonisation.

There really isn’t much more to it than that (well, about 50 years of practice!)

To start off with, all you need is a Major scale and a melodic minor scale. Build a scale off of each scale tone and listen to the sounds.

Edit. This one-page resource is fairly helpful as a start point for melodic minor harmony: https://www.jazzguitar.be/blog/melodic-minor-modes/

 

Thanks for this i have started dabbling a bit with Theory i have a understanding of the Modes when in Major Key....but clueless with the Minor Scales (Natural, Melodic and Harmonic) even though i have been playing years....it's definitely something i need to address.

Hello,

Started getting into a bit of Music Theory ect about a year or so ago and i'm struggling with notation on working out say Walking Basslines/Jazz Standards ect could anyone recommend a good book with all the bass note register on especially on the higher register ledger lines as i just get lost....ok with tabs but wanting to get into Jazz Standards and most are in notation....not wanting to sight read but be able to do cheat sheets so i can learn some standards, thanks in advance Bob.

8 hours ago, Mark williams said:

Hi my names Mark.  I've always wanted to play a double bass rockabilly style. Ive just bought one. I live in Cumbria near Carlisle. I'm willing to put the effort in and learn. I've plenty of time on my hands as not working at the moment due to illness.

Im left handed!!! Ill try and learn right handed but if not i plan to get a Luthier to make it suitable to play left handed.

Im willing to travel! So can anyone recommend someone who offers lessons? Either North East, Northwest ie Lancashire! Or even Scotland?

I'd love to be good enough to play in a band thats my goal. 

Cheers Mark.

Hi Mark try Youtube i'm sure there'll be plenty of tuition videos on there....slap bass/rockabilly style, there's a Upright/Double Bass section right here on the Forum i'm sure there might be some reference to above style if you scroll down the pages but a lot is Jazz/Walking Bass...good luck.

Welcome aboard it's a great forum for advice and even if you fancy a good 'ol rant....someone will put you straight lol, enjoy

15 hours ago, Nicko said:

Tioxide in Grimsby I assume.  I visited it a few times and the stuff used to get everywhere.  I'd be blowing it out of my nose for days.

Aye it's messy stuff worked there for 25 years until they closed it down in 2009.

12 hours ago, Maude said:

yet there's no accompanying picture to drool over. 

Hopes raised and dashed in one swift post. 

😉

Apologies Maude unable to upload any pics for some reason on my laptop.

I worked at a Titanium Dioxide Pigment Company for many years it's a white powder used in Paint, Plastic, Toothpaste ect and i'm sure the embedded pigment on my skin and hands helped in Relic'ing my Norman Acoustic Guitar, all along the neck it's worn down to the wood and the shoulder of the body ect....looks great but i must say it's been with me for almost 20 years the only instrument i would never part with....looks great, sounds great and played regularly.

Thanks Greg

Just can't get the hang of slap but Victor does it with ease and taste, enjoyed the vid

Absolutely not...it was early mid 70s....recorders, violins, triangles lol.....not cool for an aspiring young Rocker into Sabbath, Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, UFO...i hated our music teacher he was a short fat Ginger haired and goatee bearded pompous git and i was thrown out of many a lesson for refusing to learn such girly instruments lol

Nice one Greg, thankyou.

25 minutes ago, shoulderpet said:

I mean no disrespect to Trujillo , he has ability I can only dream of having and his right hand attach is deadly but although he is a great player he has always seemed like a hired gun in Metallica , to clarify what I mean he seems like the kind of player that could play circles round the others but decides not to rock the boat so as not to damage the other peoples ego's , again I mean no disrespect

Why Rock the Boat when your earning millions of dollars.

2 hours ago, Daz39 said:

Joe has a thread on here where he took (takes?) theory questions. He’s so knowledgeable, patient and explains things even a theory muppet like me can grasp.

Yeah seen the thread Daz

2 hours ago, jassthebass said:

I am about half way through it & have to say it's the best money I've spent. In some ways I wish I'd recognised the importance of the course & purchased it sooner than I actually did.

 

I purchased the lifetime version which paid dividends for me because last year I broke my hand & had to rest it for a few months (That sucks). If you watch each video more than once & practice the content properly  I don't think you'll regret the money you've spent.

 

In addition, I have also paid for a lifetime version of his 2-5-1 advanced course for me follow on when I've finished the 2 year one.

 

Adios

Nice one Jass best of luck with the course and thanks for the comment, only just started first lesson on Penta Positional Chord Studies but a few light bulb moments already.

Just started the course, been in a musical rut for awhile now and wanted to challenge and push myself and stay focused on something....2 years of hardwork ahead....I have looked at several Academy Sites and Bass Tutorial Sites and most do a lot of meaningless lessons and rely on guest Bassist seminars to boost there ratings....I want one to one Theory and Musical content and Joe seems to be the man for Bass Education no bullxxxx, hope i'm right and it turns out a sound investment, wasn't cheap nearly £500 but for 2 years of weekly emailed lessons plus access to Joe's Lesson Lounge with over 70 lessons if you break it down it's a great investment and I needed a focus and want to get into Theory in a hope that I can maybe teach others in the future....fingers crossed and here's hoping I achieve my ambition.

You Know.....gotta love ol' Bootsy

Sad news first see UFO in 76 at the Winter Gardens Cleethorpes was blown away see Pete many times since with the different line up's of UFO and also Waysted….RIP x

On 06/08/2020 at 20:43, Bilbo said:

I have finished (90 minutes) and have discovered something really interesting using the above isolated bass tracks. I found that about 98%of the tune was easy enough to write out but there are a few fills I couldn't hear, even slowed down by 75%. Revisiting the transcription with the isolated bass tracks reveals that the bits I couldn't hear are actually fluffed. I can't hear them because they aren't played. They are approximations, near misses, nearly but not quite fills. They are unplayable by most of us because they are were unplayed by Mr Murray (who I also rate very highly). 

 

I will post the transcription tomorrow on my website and post a link here. 

Hi Folks would someone be kind enough to put a link up for the isolated bass on FFYL original line please or is it on youtube, thanks in advance.

8 hours ago, dmccombe7 said:

I usually start off by listening to the song a few times and playing along with it to get the right feel of the song. Then i take a section at a time and just work away on it. Sometimes i have to play it slower and gradually speed things up till i get it just riight.

Neil and Jack Bruce were probably my biggest influences in bass in my early days. I find Neil's bass lines come reasonably natural to me but FFYL has always been the stand out bass line for me. Its all the little fills he added that take it away from being a run of the mill line. The man is a genius in my book. The perfect rock bassist.

Dave

Totally agree

14 hours ago, 4000 said:

Its a great line, but I’ve never thought it was difficult (and yes, I’m talking the original). I’m sure Bilbo is more than up to it, given the stuff he listens to and plays. 

To be honest, and I’m not judging anyone here at all, but I’ve always been a bit baffled that people can’t work stuff like this out pretty easily by ear. Obviously some can’t, but it’s so outside my experience. 

Wish I had your talent I have always struggled a bit with some stuff especially busy lines but I plug away and try my best.

22 hours ago, Bilbo said:

I may yet eat my words, thebigyin 😄

Lol I don't doubt your ability and i'm sure you'll nail it....to me it's a hard bassline but i'm just an average bassist I can play a simplified version no problem but it's a great bassline and deserves doing properly I will get it one day...all the best.

11 hours ago, Bilbo said:

An hour's work. I have to access a copy of the recording to work from but it seems easy enough.

Easy???? we are talking original Fool for your Loving....it's a monster of a Bassline if you can work this out in an hour I tip my hat to you....been attempting this on and off for yonks and still can't play it properly.