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  1. R Baer

    Baer ML112

    [quote name='funkle' timestamp='1410372291' post='2548728'] I see that the Series II ML112 cabs are coming out soon. Roger is quoted on Talkbass as having made a few changes to the cabinet to incrementally improve it further. I'm definitely interested...though I need more cabs like I need a hole in the head. [/quote] Hoping to have some ML112 Series II cabs heading to Bass Direct in the near future.
  2. I used to play a room in Hollywood that was the same way. Long rectangular room with a raised stage at one end. The celling was low on that part of the room, maybe only 7' tall on stage. Then the room opened up to about 12' tall for everything but the last 10' or so, where the roof sloped back down. I could always get a decent stage mix, but it was literally impossible to get a good room sound in that place. We won't even bring up the sound guy's "skills".
  3. [quote name='Kevsy71' timestamp='1397041148' post='2419967'] Last gig was in a low ceilinged pub, rectangular room divided by a brick fireplace. I had two Baer ML112s on the hard floor, horizontally stacked, approx. 30cm from the wall. Low bass (30Hz) was cut, slight boost at 250Hz, slight cuts at 800Hz and 2KHz. A bassist in the audience said there was distortion and bass pooling, especially in the corners. We're playing there again in two weeks, so having read the advice I'm raising the stack. And only using what I rescued from the garage: a length of pine, an old shelf, and two floor mats from a 2005 Vauxhall Zafira 1.6i.[/quote] I would recommend taking the Eden out of its rack and putting it on the ML112's stacked vertically. You will notice a difference in low end response due to the decreased coupling with the floor. Keep in mind that you are always going to run into bass frequencies building up in the corners of a room. Some rooms will be worse than others.
  4. [quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1380620797' post='2227845'] The driver in question is excellent for bass guitar. The damage is a clear case of both excursion and thermal overpowering. Most cheap bass cabs are tuned too high which means they'll unload on low note fundamentals. Having your volume control at 65% does not mean you're not using full power - you could easily hit full power with all your gain controls at 30% if you have a fairly hot bass and pluck hard. It clearly isn't a case for a warranty claim but Blue Aran's reasoning is incorrect. We have hundreds of 3015 in use in Compacts and Super Fifteens and none have ever failed - we've had the odd manufacturing related warranty return (misaligned cone, dustcap unglueing, etc) but no-one has ever blown one. Ironically we have far fewer 3015LFs out there (in Big Ones and Dubsters) but we've had two blown (both thermal failure with ~1000W amps). [/quote] +1 The 3015 is a great driver for a bass cabinet. Per the Eminence website "Recommended for vented professional audio enclosures for full range...." Full range would include a bass cab as well. Pretty much any driver can be pushed too hard into over-excursion, or fed enough power to burn out the voice coil. In my experience, there is a tendency for the term "super 12" or "super 15" to be taken as meaning these cabinets are capable of handling anything you can throw at them. Regardless of how well they perform, every cab does in fact has it's limits.
  5. R Baer

    Baer ML112

    I think a lot of bassist find it odd to dial out upper mids or treble, because most players are used to turning those frequencies up. I have always found the upper mids to be those frequencies that tend to get eaten up by the rest of the band on stage and by the crowd out in the room. By bringing those frequencies forward, the ML's allow your playing to have increased definition in the mix. If it's too much, it's just a matter of either dialing them back with EQ, or by my favorite method which is rolling back your tone control just a tad.
  6. R Baer

    Baer ML112

    Interesting thing is that the few times we tried dialing back the upper mids with some crossover mods, players that took the cab out on a gig said they missed them and wanted them back!
  7. R Baer

    Baer ML112

    I like the Ashdown stuff quite a bit. I played a ABM500 for a numbers of years and was really happy with the tone. They sound quite nice with the ML cabs.
  8. R Baer

    Baer ML112

    [quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1362734687' post='2003895'] I'm using an Ashdown Spyder 550 head with the cabs. Still very much experimenting with the cabs. At home, with the cabs stacked vertically there's a much bigger bottom end, compared to one cab up on a chair at rehearsal (exactly as you would expect). Our rehearsal space is a bit awkward to get to though, so I will only be bringing one cab, which is fine, I just know that I will be pushing it a bit harder and boosting the bass a bit more. Your comment about " it is very easy to hear slight changes in your EQ and technique with them" is spot on. On no other cab I have used does one hear so accurately changes on the amp's EQ. [/quote] Stacking them horizontal gives you an even bigger low end. I find the extra low end is really nice for larger outdoor gigs.
  9. R Baer

    Baer ML112

    Hamfist, glad to hear you are enjoying the cabs. What amp are you using with the ML's? I ask because many of todays amps have a sizable treble boost built into the "knobs at noon" setting, so it's normal to find the ML112 a bit bright in this area with some heads. The key here, like Bill mentioned, is to not worry about where your knobs are set and just turn them to where you like the sound and call it good. You will also find that with the ML112's, if you stack the pair horizontally, the low end is going to feel much bigger which will balance out the mid response. Even if the gig doesn't need you to be cranked, the two cabs together present a different feel, which I prefer due to the bigger low end. Stacking the cabs vertical will sound leaner and be more mid present. The good thing is that you can tailor the configuration quite a bit to match the gig. one, or two, horizontal or vertical. Regarding the L-pad, one of the early prototypes had an L-pad, but pretty much everyone that tried the cab said they left it up full. If it's really not needed, then there is really no need to add extra components to the circuit path. The ML112 was developed because I was trying to recreate the sound of our amp that I was hearing though a good mixer into very high end headphones. With that setup, it was easy to hear all the smallest nuances of the tube circuit, with all the added tube overtones and harmonics. Plugging the amp into the standard cabs that were available never would yield the same results. It just sounded like a whole lot of information was missing somehow. Once we got into the mid drivers and increased upper mid output, I felt the cab was able to recreate the sound I was hearing from the tube circuit in a live setting much better. Those extra mids may sound a bit too forward in your living room, but they really add a lot of definition and articulation to your playing onstage and it is very easy to hear slight changes in your EQ and technique with them.
  10. The ML115 has bigger lows and smooth upper mids. I think Bass Direct was interested in these for the shop, once they are available.
  11. [quote name='Iana' timestamp='1362055164' post='1995026'] I am just really picky as I am sure Mark Stickley will tell you! I prefer the bigger low mids and polite upper mid voicing of the HD212, I had owned one before and was always totally happy with tone, but struggled with the weight. The idea with the ML was to store one cab where I normally play and not have to carry much gear around, sadly this did not work out due to security isssues so I went back to a single cab solution. The Baer is a quality piece of gear, as Mark said to me, this is kind of like choosing between two very high end sports cars, it is difficult to go wrong! [/quote] I consider it a very nice compliment to be considered in the same company as Jim's cabs and we appreciate you giving the cabs a try.
  12. [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1361888030' post='1992467'] ...So why don't you argue the facts instead of attacking me personally? [/quote] Because I don't think players visit these threads to see people argue and you've obviously had a chip on your shoulder from post one, for some reason. If you have issues with our gear, then you're free to not purchase it, but I don't understand your need to troll on a thread regarding gear you obviously have no interest in. Owners of the ML112 really like the frequency response of the cab and its peaks in the upper mids are there by design. I've had local pro's test the cab with different crossovers that had the 1.5K peak either substantially reduced, or removed altogether and in every case, the players came back reporting that they like the sound of the original crossover better. Maybe I should ignore their opinions because the new crossover looks better on paper? The cabs that were tested by Bass Gear Magazine are Tom's personal cabs. Alan Loshbaugh, who wrote the review, purchased a pair of ML112's shortly after doing the review. Would guys who know gear like they do purchase the cabs if they sounded bad? Regardless of the opinion you have based on the Bass Gear graphs, I stand behind the design. I don't see that I've ever made some outlandish claims that needs to be debated and anyone buying our cabs has the option to return them if they are not 100% happy with them. Simple as that.
  13. [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1361714926' post='1989615'] [size=4][i][color=#0000CD]I didn't level criticism at you personally. The cabinet measured poorly in the Bass Gear test. The measurements look fair to me but perhaps you’d like to clarify the matter by posting the set of measurements Bill did for you. What measurements did he do exactly? I am pleased that you are more than happy to answer questions about your product.[/color][/i] Like I said, we don't post frequency response curves as part of our marketing and I've stated my reasons for not doing so. I sent the cab to Bill to measure so that I knew the specs we do list on the website were correct and so that we wouldn't be called out later, by him or anyone else. Bill and I have worked together before, but I also know that won't stop him from calling me out online if he thinks I am making claims that the gear won't support. Bill tested the cab and confirmed that -3db and -10db frequency specs we claim were valid. If Bill would like to chime in with how the test were conducted, I will gladly allow that, as it is really out of my area of expertise and I don't want to give out the wrong information. Looking at the Bass Gear test of the cab, one would assume the cab to be very lacking in low end response, which would be very opposite from the opinions of players that actually use our cabs, a few of which have posted here. So here we clearly have a case where some test don't correlate well with the experience of those using the gear, so which information is more useful to people interested in the cabs? The response chart on Bass Gear article, or the experience of those players actually using the cab on gigs in all kinds on environments, including those of the person doing the reveiw? Oh, and by the way, Bill frequently gives me a hard time online for not posting more information, but I accept that as an area we disagree. He lets it go for the most part, because he feels we are not out there making false claims about our gear. [color=#000080][i]We’re clear then. You consider Basschat to be a marketing channel comparable to a stand at Naam and I consider it to be more like a pub where like-minded musicians can meet to chat, exchange experiences, offer and receive advice. Did I say you shouldn’t wear your logo here? Don’t make a meal of it, Roger.[/i][/color] You didn't say I shouldn't wear my logo here, but you clearly seem to have issue with it and feel that BassChat should charge us for doing so. I was just explaining my reasoning for doing so. Online social media is being used by just about every company in the world there days, so it would be silly of me to not take advantage of it. Isn't the direct interaction between the players and the manufacturers of bass gear one of the more positive benefits a site like this has to offer? I do try and keep shameless self promotion to a minimum. [color=#000080][i]You disagree with what? That measurements are useful? Don’t you measure your amps?[/i][/color] I didn't say that I felt measurements are not useful. I was disagreeing with your statement alluding to the fact that subjective opinions from those players without technical expertise are not useful. "[color=#0000CD][i]N[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]othing against subjective opinions when they are unbiased and from someone who knows what they're talking about..." [/font][/i][/color]Personally, I don't see why the the opinion of any bassist with personal experience with a piece of gear, should be deemed less relevant than the opinion of another. [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I'm not trying to pick a fight with you here, Stevie. If you have issues with the way we do business, then that's your right. I think I have explained myself and my positions clearly enough, so maybe we can move past that and not turn this thread into an online bickering match between the two of us. [/font][/color][/size] [i][/quote][/i]
  14. Agreed. One cab may do it for you, depending on how loud your band is. Think of it as comparable to a good 210 box. Personally, I would rather use two cabs running comfortably, with some headroom left, than run one cab balls out and hope things don't get louder as the night goes on. I recently had a player use the ML115 on a gig that he usually needs his 310 box for and he said that it handled the gig just fine, with just as much, if not more low end. It all depends on what your definition of "not particularly loud" is.
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