TRBboy

If I ever had that much wonga to spend on a 5, I'd definitely check out Dingwall.

Awesome man! I'm glad you've found something!

Did you get it for your 400 Euro budget?


Let us know what it's like.

[QUOTE]Probably not and hardly a fair test for any bass really.[QUOTE]

Fair point, but as I practice through it with all my other basses it's a fair comparison. I wonder though if perhaps the preamp in the bass is overwhelming the amp a bit?

[quote name='Sandmann' post='1152648' date='Mar 7 2011, 04:25 PM']may i ask what amp/cabinets you use? the glockenklang preamp has a boost/cut of bass frequencies around 40hz. maybe your amp-system does not go down low enough?

[url="http://www.glockenklang.de/en/products/bass_systems/onboard_3-band.htm"]http://www.glockenklang.de/en/products/bas...oard_3-band.htm[/url][/quote]

Yeah it could be, because at home I only practice through a little Roland Micro Cube Bass RX. My 'proper' rig is a Mark Bass CMD102P (2x10" combo) and 15" extension cab, so it should sound a lot better through that!

Just been playing for a while, and it's really starting to grow on me. This thing is a serious slap machine! If only I was any good at slapping.......

Can't wait to hear it through my Markbass rig on Wednesday - perhaps my MicroCube isn't doing it much justice

[quote name='yorick' post='1152458' date='Mar 7 2011, 01:33 PM']Looking at the control layout, it's probably vol/3 band eq. The volume is probably a pull/push for active/passive. It's definitely a Glockenklang pre-amp, unless that's been changed.[/quote]

Yeah it is vol (pull passive) and 3-band eq. I'm just not sure at the moment whether the bass pot is working as it should at the moment. It just doesn't seem to boost as much as the treble or mid, although you can hear that the pot does work. I guess it must just be a very bright bass with a very transparent preamp. I'll be able to evaluate it properly at band rehearsal on Wednesday when I'm going through my full rig.

It's not that I don't like it, it's just that i've never had a bass that sounds quite like this, and I guess I expected a bit more of a gutsy, powerful sound from it. I'll give it a fair shot though.

I got my Sandberg Basic 4 on Saturday! I bought it off Gazmon through the BassChat sale section.


First impressions:

Gareth was right to describe it as immaculate! I can't find a mark on it, nor any signs of wear. In fact the protective film is still on the scratchplate and the back of the tuners! The build quality is as I expected; absolutely rock solid. Definitely has a 'German' feel about it. The 6-bolt neck join seems to feel more solid than some thru-necks I've played! The pots have a firm, positive feel to them. All of the hardware seems solid. The neck profile is maybe a little fuller than I expected, although it is extremely comfortable. The neck profile starts out as a C sort of profile (slightly fuller than a jazz)at the nut, but as you progress up the neck the centre line gradually flattens out, ending up as a kind of U(?) section higher up the neck (more like a classical guitar profile). This bass definitely has a 'hand built' feel about it, and is actually a little heavier than I envisaged.

Unfortunately, I couldn't play it straight out the box. Gareth had informed me that he hadn't used it for over a year, and time had taken its toll. The neck had far too much relief in it, resulting in a very high action, the strings were completely dead, the frets were pretty badly oxidised and the fretboard was very dry.

So I set about polishing the frets, lem-oiling the fretboard, re-stringing and adjusting the truss rod.

Frets & fretboard before:
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It now plays like a dream, and is basically like a brand new bass.


Sounds:

This bass has a very natural sound, and the preamp really does not colour the tone too much. It's nice also that the output seems to be well matched between active and passive modes. I am finding it to be inherently bright sounding, and the preamp seems very subtle (with the exception of the treble pot!). I'm still getting used to it, but it seems almost like the bass pot does not boost enough, so I seem to end up with it full up all the time. Conversely, I think if you turned the treble pot all the way up you would shatter every pane of glass in a 10 mile radius! It does sound great, but just seems to be lacking a bit of low end meatiness at the moment. You can roll the treble right off and turn the bass right up, and you never get close to muddy or rumbling. This is perhaps the sign of a tasteful, quality preamp, but does not seem to permit much tonal versatility. It would be great for jazz solo sort of stuff I should imagine but I play in a rock band. Anyway I'm sure once I get used to it it'll be fine.

It is very easy to play, and the sustain and harmonics especially are probably better than any other bass I've ever played.

If anyone has any tips or advice about the preamp, let me know.


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Might be worth keeping an eye out for a used Yamaha TRB1005 - you might just about find one for the right price. Personally, I think nothing comes close at that sort of price.

You need to try 34" and 35" scale lengths to see what suits you best. I can never get on with 34" scale on a 5 string because the low B is just too sloppy. If you decide you want to go 35", on your budget it will narrow the search considerably.

Could also consider Ibanez BTB or Peavey Cirrus (both 35")

Definitely change the pickup. I put Dimarzio Model P/J in a cheap Yammy recently and they are awesome! The model P is absolutely thunderous. You can get the Model P from Axiomatic for £62.95.

I've done the whole "Awesome active preamp teamed with s**t pickups" thing, and it only works up to a point. It's the equivalent of having a Ferrari with a milk float engine.

For your budget you could afford to buy a Dimarzio Model P and my Aguilar OBP2 preamp, then you'd really be in business......... ;-)

First bass was a white Squier Standard P-bass at the age of about 13.

Didn't have a clue how to set up and look after a bass back then so the action was awful. Got into playing bass after trying piano, violin, trumpet, trombone and euphonium at school. Didn't like any of them, but playing the Euphonium did make me realise that I liked the bass parts, so I started playing bass.

A year or two later, a mate gave me a load of Metallica tapes and that was it - I was out gigging around the town in a metal covers band at the age of 15!

Hated the white colour, so re-sprayed it metallic purple, which I did a fairly poor job of.

Kept the bass for a while before saving hard from paper round, Saturday job, Birthday money, Christmas money, etc, etc. and bought a 5-string Warwick Thumb and a Trace stack!!! Bit of a jump from the squier P.......

Here's my latest bargain basher.

Not keen on all black, so had to do the cream Dimarzio's and knobs!

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Woo Hoo!!!!

I am now eagerly awaiting delivery of Gazmon's Basic 4!!! Can't wait to get my hands on it!

The courier's collecting it tomorrow, so I'm gonna go down to the depot first thing Saturday morning to pick it up!

Thanks to Gazmon for a quick, painless transaction, and also to Tom1946 who's just bought my TRB1004 and it should be with him tommorrow!


I don't think I've ever bought and sold basses so quick! About 12 hours between transactions!

This item is now SOLD.

Thanks to Tom1946 for a quick, smooth transaction.

Thanks dude.

I'll update you tmrw as soon as I've got a price.

[quote name='tomb' post='1147893' date='Mar 2 2011, 11:49 PM']PMed[/quote]

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Sorry for being stupid, but what does that mean?

I'll see what I can do and let you know.

Are you able to give me your address so I can get an accurate quote?

It is an awesome bass.

I'll check out postage costs tomorrow if possible. If you could get it for about 400 Euros, would you be interested?

What sort of music do you play?

[quote name='tomb' post='1147854' date='Mar 2 2011, 11:13 PM']im so damn temped to get this... but the price is just a nono for me 350+postage would be well over 400€ and then there no money for an amp :\

if i had more money this would really be mine[/quote]

How much less would it have to be to be worthwhile?

I'll throw in a spare set of Rotosound strings too!

Similar to Wil, I sold my ATK300 because I was never really happy with the sound.

It was pretty good, but just seemed to be all EQ and no core tone.

I had a BB414 and stuck a Gotoh bridge on it, but still felt like it was lacking something.

I then put an Aguilar OBP2 preamp in it, and although it was much, much better, it was still not quite right. It just seemed to be lacking the core tone, punch and sustain that I expect from a bass.

So I sold it.


Got an RBX270 now with Dimarzio's, and it's much better. Fully satisfies my P/J requirements.

Thanks mate, it is a cracking bass and i'll be sad to see it go.

Needs must though...... I just hope it sells fairly quick!

[quote name='jude_b' post='1146276' date='Mar 1 2011, 07:30 PM']Jam Guitars in Bristol have a new one going for £800 (they're just around the corner from me). Unfortunately they're closing the shop on 11 March - so you'll need to be quick. Link below:

[url="http://www.jamguitars.co.uk/sandbergbass.htm"]http://www.jamguitars.co.uk/sandbergbass.htm[/url][/quote]

Thanks for the tip-off, looks very nice. Hopefully I'l be taking Gazmon's used one off him in the next couple of days!

[font="Arial"][size=4][b]Yamaha TRB1004 in Natural for sale, including hard case[/b][/size]

[size=3]This is a fantastic bass that has served me well playing all styles from the local pantomime to metal! I will be very sad to see it go.......


It has a very clear, punchy, articulate sound and the alnico humbuckers teamed with the active 3-band eq are capable of producing a vast array of sounds.


Full specs can be found here; [url="http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical-instruments/guitars-basses/el-basses/trb/trb1004j/?mode=model"]Yamaha TRB1004[/url]

One of many glowing reviews can be found here; [url="http://www.bassplayer.com/article/yamaha-trb1004/jul-06/21410"]Bass player review - TRB1004[/url]


It has a 35" scale, 24 frets, Brass bridge, Solid alder body with a beautiful quilted maple top and matching headstock (stunning!), and the hardware is kind of black chrome.

I have owned it from new ('06 I think), and used it a lot, but it has been well looked after (I used to do repairs, set-ups, etc. for a living). The neck is straight, and the action is pretty low. Fret wear is minimal. If you look very hard in the right light, there are some very light buckle marks on the back, and slight marks from popping the g-string between the neck pickup and fretboard. There is also a slight mark on the edge on the headstock (nearest E string), and some minute dings on the neck. The bridge shows some slight oxidisation which is common to this type of finish. There is also some slight 'smoothing' on the edge of the neck pickup from my thumb.

I want to give you as much detail about the condition as possible so that you know exactly what you are buying and there are no surprises. I would generally describe the bass as being in very good condition, and is an absolute joy to play.

I have just re-strung it with GHS Bass Boomers 45-105, so the strings are brand new.


When I bought it new, they were just shy of £800. I am asking only £350 for it as I could do with a quick sale. Included is a hard case to prevent damage in transit.

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That would be great if you could keep it for me Gareth!

You should have my email and phone details from musicalads now, so text me your details and I'll keep you updated.

Time to beg, steal and borrow............


Just a few questions:

You describe it as immaculate; are there no signs of use at all, or minor wear?

How long have you owned it and did you buy it new?

Is everything in good working order, and the neck nice and true with no twist or warp?


Sorry if I'm being a pain in the ass, but it's a lot of dosh to me so I need to make sure it's right!


Thanks,


Oli.