lonestar

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='517811' date='Jun 18 2009, 08:43 PM']There are certain bass parts that seem quite easy to play, but when you actually learn them they just don't sound right, no matter how long you study them. For me, a prime example is 'Sex Machine'. A few simple notes, but you try to make it sound and feel like Bootsy...impossible. Another one is Steely Dan's 'Kid Charlemagne'. I've been playing this song for 12 years, and I've studied it note for note, but I can't for the life of me get it dead right. The feel is unbelievable - funk/reggae. Chuck Rainey freely admits it's probably his finest moment.

Anyone else have an example of this phenomenom?[/quote]

I couldn't agree more on this
We recorded Kid Charlemagne as part of a little project with a guitard friend.
It wasn't too bad until the fantastic guitar solo; the bass part took me ages and was really hard, never felt that confident with the rest of the song either if I'm honest.

Go if you're anywhere near here, a Dan fan and there's gas in the car.

I've seen them 3 times at The Jazz Cafe and would probably go again sometime.

They're nice people too.

smoke a pack of whiskey and turn everything up to 11

I'm with Frank Zappa on this:
"Rock" (paraphrase with music) journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read".

[quote name='The Funk' post='506003' date='Jun 5 2009, 12:32 AM']Guys, thanks for rushing to my defence but it's not necessary. It was just a one line joke not intended to distract from the discussion.[/quote]

I thought it was funny, if a little obvious!

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='504977' date='Jun 3 2009, 07:40 PM']That's a bit harsh, Jacko.[/quote]

Yeh what he said. No need for that.

I've been listening to lot's of stuff with this guy playing.
[url="http://www.bonnieraitt.com/bio_hutch.php"]http://www.bonnieraitt.com/bio_hutch.php[/url]

My favourite bass player, for this week any way.

Anyone know any more about him?

[quote name='NancyJohnson' post='502908' date='Jun 1 2009, 01:09 PM']It's also Flemish for Golden Shower.
P[/quote]

Now I bet that he's pi$$ed off or perhaps on!

Hello from another barfco Swill merchant and central scrutinizer fan here too.

[quote name='steve-soar' post='461476' date='Apr 13 2009, 07:56 PM']Makes sense to me but there are so many different intervals to use on passing notes. 6ths, minor 7ths, oh no, Jazz has just started to secreet from my pores...NURSE!!! [/quote]

Surely you mean Niiice!!!
Good point though

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='461336' date='Apr 13 2009, 05:15 PM']Not my band but good luck.
I find it quite easy now to play it in A with the 5 string. Before i had to play it differently to how it should go but now i can just transpose it down from C.

This thread has opened my eyes a bit and made me realise i was missing out on something. Ive now been making more of an effort to use the 5th string more and so far i like it.
Its been dependent on the gig though. some of them have been a bit boomy and i find playing E-A on the B string can sound a bit muffled but at some of the gigs ive had such a nice, clear and punchy sound using the higher notes has been a pleasure.[/quote]

It's been a useful discussion hasn't it?
I think that on reflection tend to use the 5th string around the bottom end fairly sparingly to to punctuate lines with 4ths or 5ths, sometimes as almost passing notes, and play root notes and bass lines from up past the 5th fret onwards if that makes any kind of sense.

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='357251' date='Dec 17 2008, 08:05 PM']What? You preferred it to the Freeman's catalogue with Lulu?[/quote]

That's a good point. Of course the above and the Brian Mills catalogue figured highly in my emotional development

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='451218' date='Apr 1 2009, 09:42 AM']Build me up buttercup in A is the killer for me on 4 string.[/quote]

Small world! just learning that last night for a dep gig for a band called 208. Not your band is it Dave?

Keb Mo
Eric Bibb
Taj Mahal

500,001
Nice one Well done Chris.

[quote name='Prosebass' post='453900' date='Apr 4 2009, 10:01 AM']I'm still buying up old copies of International Musician from the 70's and 80's. Best magazine there has ever been to give a full spectrum of players , gear and the industry as it was back then.
My new years resolution was not to buy any new magazines and I must admit I don't feel like I am missing anything.[/quote]

Yep I liked that and Beat International

+1 the sad demise of Bassist and it's subsequent incororation and disappearance into Guitardist Magazine

I rarely buy music mags now but always found the American ones more player/music orientated with good stuff to learn and mess about with and the UK ones obsessed with equipment reviews but featuring yet another Deep Purple/Floyd/ Zep transcription. Yawn!

I find making the fretboard and using Brasso works well and it's non abrasive.

Galoot Galah
It be lookin good even wif out de nakkin on!

Great bass Sister Abdullah X

I want one

+1 again Danny Thompson

That bloke with Seth Lakeman is good too. Ben Nicholls according to the album sleeve

Great review but I wish that I hadn't read it. I've been gassing for one of these for ages and they keep popping up secondhand and I have no money and oh god it's all too depressing...

That's a good idea

[quote name='Rich' post='449204' date='Mar 30 2009, 08:36 AM']I use the big mooring cable all the time now, I'd be lost without it. When I first started playing fives, I had to change my playing style to suit and it took a bit of work. Now I find that when I pick up a four, I have to change my playing style to suit [/quote]

Me too.
It may be the nature of my 5string, a Peavey TL5, but I find that it doesn't respond as well to "digging in" as my Jazz 4 string. It sounds great with a lighter touch though.

[quote name='captain black' post='449161' date='Mar 30 2009, 01:41 AM']I've noticed a proliferation in the numbers of 'Dads Bands' around at the minute.
You can see them all over. They're young.
Their dads ferry them to 'gigs' and set the gear up for them while they stand around looking vaguely interested.
They spend the whole night playing power chords learnt from Tab off the internet while adoring jailbait looks on.
The dads stand at the back nodding all the way through and then pack up the gear at the end.
The upshot?
It's all done for them!
They haven't had to do it for themselves.
As a kid I had to bus 6 miles to practices then carry my amp and bass about a mile (stopping for many rests) so that by the time I got there I could hardly play.
When you learnt your favourite songs you had to LISTEN to the Record ...NO REALLY LISTEN and work out what was going on.
You learnt the subtleties. You learnt your trade. You couldn't just google it.
So I think your answer lies in the fact that the future generation of bands are missing out on the 'serving your time' part.
Also the standard of affordable guitars and basses you learnt on back then, or should I say Planks (hondo etc.), was pretty poor in comparison to what young 'uns have today (not that Dad hasn't bought them a Les Paul anyway).
Anyway....Rant over.

Ps. Apologies to anyone who helps out with their son's band but you get my point.[/quote]

Oh dear. I wish that I could disagree with this but you are so right.
It probably removes the those that can't really be bothered to make some effort filter so that anyone can do it in a half as*ed manner and pretend to be a musician.

I think that I do but often when playing songs originally recorded on a 4 string around F G or C it kind of sounds right to me played up near the nut as we do quite a few soul and Motown covers.
I like the choice though of starting from the middle of the neck and it certainly works well on newer material . We play killer by seal in Eb; couldn't get away with that on my 4 string.