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I have an early Warwick Thumb bass from 1989. It came without the Schaller strap locks although apparently the strap button is the basis for the strap lock. It has a threaded bolt fixing the button to the bass rather than wood screw type and the button is also slightly recessed into the wood.

The new Warwick strap locks have a wood screw and the diameter of the button doesn't fit the recess (too big) Also the threaded bolt doesn't fit through the new Warwick strap locks.

Without doing major reworks to the bass itself to fit new type of Warwick strap locks does anyone have any thoughts.
I'm loathe to change the actual bass from its original state when I bought it.

Does anyone know if the old original Warwick strap locks are still available ?

Any help or advice appreciated.

Cheers
Dave
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Just changed from Overwater strings to Elixir on my 6 string.
I had to go for the XL range to get the scale length of which they only do the B string as a taper.
With the overwater strings I found the B a little flat in tone compared to the Elixir which is far more balanced.
As this is the first Elixir set I've used with a taper ball end I'm not sure if the more even response and tone is because its taper or because the set is Elixir.
Its only the low B that is tapered.

Not sure if that helps. ?

From memory though I remember when Rotosound brought out their taper ball ends and they were significantly sharper and vibrant top end. Didn't have a lot of choice in those days so this was a rare novelty. Expensive at that time so went back to normal strings.

Dave

[quote name='Soliloquy' post='1103358' date='Jan 26 2011, 11:25 AM']I actually got it used would you believe ! The original owner ordered it like that, according to Chris, he saw a similar one on the website, and asked for one the same. It does make string changing a doddle.

It's had four owners in 18 months, I'm the fifth. Don't ask me why because I have no idea, it's a fantastic bass.

Even though I've been playing for 20 plus years, I'm actually new to Overwaters. I've seen their basses many times, but never bought one until now. I've really missed out on something ![/quote]

I'm same and have been playing since late 70's. Remember looking at the Overwater early 80's along with WAL. Decided on the WAL simply because it was more well known at that time. If I had known how good Chris was back then it would have changed my outlook.
Great basses, great guy too.

Very nice bass you have there and hope you keep it a bit longer than previous owners. Every nice bass needs a loving home. !!!



Cheers
Dave

I'm surprised this is still for sale.
Seems like a good price for a 2yr old Overwater.
If I didn't alreday have one I would buy this.

Cheers
Dave

Hi Tom
They completed mine well within schedule.
They will also take the time to make sure you're happy with the set up when completed.
Chris is very fussy to make sure that everything is done to perfection and that's why people keep going back to him.
If there's anything you're not sure about just ask the guys and they'll give you a straight and honest answer.

You won't be disappointed.

All the very best with it when completed.

Dave

[quote name='cetera' post='1094085' date='Jan 18 2011, 05:01 PM']Updated gig list for the first half of 2011:

[b][u]Jan[/u]
28th Camberley ‘Agincourt’
29th Crewe ‘The Box’

[u]Feb[/u]
4th Bilston 'Robin2'
5th Walthamstow 'Standard'

[u]Mar[/u]
4th Lanark 'Agricultural Centre'
5th Blackburn 'King Georges Hall'

[u]Apr[/u]
15th Stourbridge 'River Rooms'
16th Ipswich 'Manor Ballroom'

[u]May[/u]
27th Moscow, Russia (Classic Rock Festival)
28th t.b.c., Russia
29th t.b.c., Russia[/b][/quote]

Tickets ordered for the Lanark gig. Looking forward to it. Have even taken the day off to make sure I am not held up at work.
All the best on the night.

Dave

Yep. You won't go wrong with Overwater.
Best thing I ever did was buy my 6 string Progress fretless.
Chris, Laurence and Martin were brilliant.
All very approachable, helpful and understanding.
If and when i can afford a fretted one I will be straight back to Chris and the team.

Cannot fault them.

Still loving every minute of it.

Cheers
Dave

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Would your local music shop not value it for you.
If you take some "for sale" examples to them they should be able / willing to help.

Is the insurance to cover the bass when gigging. ?
If its kept at home then your house contents insurance should cover most items without a valuation but always best to double check with them up front.
If for any reason it gets stolen from house then you can show your insurance company examples of similar aged bass and they should be flexible in their cover.

Cheers
Dave

Any pics would help. Nice to see condition before buying.
Sounds like a good price for it.
This is the twin channel Markbass i think. ?

Cheers
Dave

[quote name='bassface2k10' post='1098923' date='Jan 22 2011, 06:08 PM']Hi Dave

I'll go and check Sandin Wilson out, as for a few of this guys albums, i purchased " bringing back the funk" and "XII" from amazon, i have to say both really good albums, bringing back the funk is my favorite at the minute

all the best

Chris[/quote]
Thanks Chris will check these out first.
Sandin is the bassist for Gino Vannelli - if you haven't heard Gino then listen to Brother to Brother album with Jimmy Haslip.
Also Jimmy Haslip is a close friend of Sandin and produced Into My World.
Sandin is also a really nice down to earth guy who sent me some bits and pieces after contacting him to say album was great.

Dave

Excellent ! love it.
Have a listen to a guy called Sandin Wilson - "Into My World". Similar style with vocals included.

Thanks for posting this - will check out albums

Cheers
Dave

[quote name='Scooby' post='1098513' date='Jan 22 2011, 11:46 AM']Weekend bump, final calls etc etc...

Definitely interested in Overwater if you're looking to trade ;o)[/quote]

Overwater is a one off signature bass for my 50th last year and would never sell a treasured or collectors item - don't think you should either - LOL !!!

Note :- not 100% sure but don't think the more recent Thumbs have the pearl fret markers on the neck. ?

Good luck anyroads

Cheers
Dave

I agree with others. You'll regret getting rid of this one.
I've got the 89 with EMG's and they were by far one of the best basses on the market at the time.
I would never dream of parting with such a collectors item.
Very rare, very exceptional - don't do it !!!!

Cheers
Dave

[quote name='WarPig' post='1096591' date='Jan 20 2011, 05:25 PM']Cheers for the comments Dave Im not giving up bass, but seeing as i work 10-12 hour days fri-tues, cant drive AND live in the middle of no-where, theres not much chance haha. If anything im top of my game right now

Thanks!

Oh BTW im in [b]Marden, Kent. [/b].[/quote]

10-12 hrs over weekend - that's a pain.
Considered changing job ??? - LOL !!!

All best with the sale - as previously pointed out shouldn't last long at this price.

Dave

[quote name='WarPig' post='1096568' date='Jan 20 2011, 05:06 PM']Time to realize im not going to be in a band for a long, long time,
[/quote]

That's a bit of a drastic statement. Are you sure about not playing in a band for a long time.
We all have our down moments but should always give yourself a bit of time to reflect.

Other than that this is an excellent price for some classic kit.

Shame !

Good luck though whatever you do

Cheers
Dave

Thanks Alan,
Great collection and brought back memories of Trevor Bolder too.
Was a big Bowie fan in the Ziggy days and met Trevor when he played with Uriah Heep using a Kramer. Played a great solo at the gig. Great guy too.

I had the fretless WAL in 80's - think everyone was buying them then - LOL !!!

I still have my original Thumb from 1989 with EMG's which like you found this one had that something extra. I think I tried every bass in Glasgow before going back to this particular Thumb.
Electronics failed within the first week but Sound Control returned it to Warwick and the repair was completed with a nice package of goodies including Sweatshirt, 3 sets of strings, book, various other smaller items and most importantly an apologetic letter from them in broken English with a German accent. Still have all this to date.
It was a great response from them.

I've also had the Rick, Shergold twin neck (4 & 8), Precisions, Jazz, Ibanez, Aria SB1000 & SB900, Yamaha, various Warwicks from cheap to expensive range and all pretty good for money.
Bought an Overwater 6 string fretless last year to celebrate the big 50 as you can see from pic.

Thanks for sharing your photos and story. Thoroughly enjoyed.

Cheers
Dave

The new TC amps now seem to be available at an amazing price for what seems to be a copy of the RH450 without the small casing or LED indicators on the controls.

Has anyone tried them yet and how does it compare against RH450 / RS cab set up.

The RH450 seems to be extremely popular with BC's even for guys with several amps this always appears to be "in the collection".

Not having tried the TC range as yet I can't help but think they must be exceptional amps for so many experienced bassists to have in their arsenal of kit.

Any thoughts or opinions appreciated.

Cheers
Dave

[quote name='Thurbs' post='1076960' date='Jan 4 2011, 12:25 AM']Balance is something I have been searching out for months!

Tonight I managed to persuade everyone to go through the PA (including the drummer) and I was amazed at how bad we sounded. I am convinced playing f'king loud has been covering up some major issues with timing.

What was also interesting was how 'dead' the music sounded without a acoustic drum kit. Hard to describe really but the music just seemed to fall flat on the floor as soon as it came out of the speakers. I guess that is what playing with a electric drum kit gives you, trouble is our drummer doesn’t understand dynamics and just plays f'king loud all the time.

Back on topic... I use a moulded ear plugs (but used normal headphones previously) with a Samson S-monitor (http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1696) wired system which costs about £35. My guitar is plugged in to the PA, as is the mic, so another wire for IEM is neither here or there. The main driver behind the moulded plugs was not to get rid of a stage amp but get the noise levels to my ear down to something less than 110dB+. With the 26dB claimed isolation (making 84dB) I am just outside of the damage your ears territory.[/quote]

I'm surprised that drums sounded flat when using the electronic drumkit.
I played in a 3 piece late 80's early 90's with the drummer using a Simmons kit via the Simmons amp. This was then taken straight to PA.
We found that you could get a great balance over the PA - far better volume wise where we could play smaller gigs without noise or volume problems. In fact we were asked to do several smaller gigs because we could "turn down" the drummer.
With regards the sound quality the drummer also used sampling systems which maybe gave the kit a far more realistic and fuller sound than the basic Simmons kit.
Maybe you need to try experimenting with the kit and what you can add to fatten the sound a bit. Our drummer had been using the Simmons kit long before band formed so was more or less an expert with it.
We covered everything from Floyd to Rock & Blues incl the old drummers fav Phil Collins "In the Air" sound.
It was good for a laugh but gets a bit boring after a while.

He did use an acoustic snare and cymbals etc

Good luck
Dave

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1076282' date='Jan 3 2011, 01:56 PM']I chose the DB series purely because I tested a pair of DB112s at the Bass Merchant and loved the tone.

GS - Huge bottom end, slightly mid shy (not in a bad sense) and ability to have more vintage or crisp highs. Nice handles and carpet covered.

DB - Still a large bottom end, but more mid punchy so the mids seems to kick out, (the tone is....with a strange description, 'chewy' thick and warm) and nice sweet highs. I only have the tweeter on about 1/3, or off. Not sure how the high end compares to the GS. Strap handles and very pretty styling.

Both of the ranges seem to just have lots of articulation. Personally, after testing a lot of high end cabs, Id put the Aguilar cabs up with the top manufacturers.

Both are great. For me, I found I would always end up using two 12s, so I went for the DB212 as it has large handles, and removable casters built in.

I still often think about picking up 1 DB112 for small gigs, but I know its just GAS speaking.

They have the new SL112, VERY lightweight 112s. Check www.aguilaramp.com

[/quote]
Good description of sound difference between the GS & DB.
Helps me decide which to go for although I will take the advice from all and TRY before i BUY.
Sounds like the DB is more what I'm looking for.

Cheers
Dave

[quote name='chris_b' post='1075976' date='Jan 3 2011, 01:32 AM']The GS112 came first and was an instant hit with a great tone from a small cab, but some people thought the tone was mid scooped, ie lacking in mids. The DB112 came next. Everything is the same as the GS112 but the cab is 1 inch deeper and this gives it more mids.

I owned 2 GS112's and would buy them again if they were lighter. I've never played a DB112 but the reviews are very favourable.[/quote]

Cheers Chris,
Its taken me a few attempts on BC to get a decent simple explanation on the differences between these two cabs.
The 1" depth explains why the DB has more mid punch than GS.

Once again BC saves the day as I would probably have gone for the GS. I prefer a low - mid sound and DB would fit the bill better.
I will of course trial both before buying as advised by all.

Appreciated
Dave

[quote name='essexbasscat' post='1075258' date='Jan 2 2011, 01:16 PM']Hi all and happy new year

Having seen another thread about Aguilar cabs, I thought I'd open a new thread rather than hijack the other one. Like many others, I'm a fan of my two GS1x12's. They've always delivered the solid bottom end that I like in my sound when coupled to a Peavey MkIV head, a nice vintage sound that suits my 60's band a treat, with enough versatility to add some highs when needed for more up to date numbers.

However, I did find them a bit lacking when coupled with a Markbass Sa450 head. The mids are a bit shy on the GS's, which is where a lot of the Sa450 tone shaping seems to live. Folk on other threads have said that the DB's expose more of the mid frequencies, while still keeping the integrity of the lower frequencies.

I've noticed others complimenting the DB112 and DB112NT combination. Can anyone shed any light on this particular setup and what it offers compared to 2 x DB112 ? Is one pair more friendly to a vintage type sound than another ? does the DB112 and DB112 NT allow more exposure for the tones from the more modern class D amps ?

Thank you for all your replies BC

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Its the SA450 with GS112 set up I was looking at but I'm now a bit concerned that it won't have the low-mid frequency punch that I'm looking for.
It appears that as always individual taste will determine whether the GS or DB has the mid frequency punch.
Some say the GS has a mid scoop yet others say not.
Between this post and the others recently posted I'm getting a little lost with the Aguilar kit.
I think a trial run is in order before buying as this debate could go on indefinately.

Appreciate all the comments as it does help - I guess - LOL !!!!!

Cheers
Dave :

I'm also interested in the Aguilar 112's.

What's the main difference between the GS & DB cabs.

How do they sound with Ampeg SVT3PRO ?

Cheers
Dave

Guitar, Guitar in Glasgow had full set of Mesa kit.
Check their local store in your area.
Reckon they stock same mfr in all their stores.

Let me know what you think of it.
I was looking at the M6 head but haven't decided as yet.

Good luck
Dave

[quote name='chris_b' post='1071558' date='Dec 29 2010, 11:07 AM']Hi, +1 with JTUK for keeping your amp, but you'll need a neo cab for the reduced weight. There are quite a few to choose from, Bergantino, Epifani, Markbass, Genz Benz etc. They all have their own "sound" so you should listen to them if you can and they’re quite expensive, unless you can buy used. The only non neo cab I'd recommend is one of the Aguilar GS112 or DB112 cabs. They sound great

The lightest, loud and full toned neo cab out there, in my opinion, is the Barefaced Compact at 26lbs. Send a PM to alexclabber and discuss pairing your amp with this cab. This is a great 1 cab solution and it's a sensitive cab so it'll make your 200 watts sound bigger and better than most other cabs.[/quote]


Out of curiosity whats the difference between the Aguilar GS112 & DB112 apart from cost. I'm interested in buying one or other ?

Dave

I took advice from BC readers and bought an OBBM speaker cable and noticed the difference. Changed tone to a more even, smoother sound without changing amp settings. Very surprised as I'm an Instrument Engineer and should know about differences in cabling.

I used to make my own bass leads many moons ago using twin core, sheathed co-ax instrument cable which lasted a long time until they were pinched by another band.

I have one remaining which is now 25 yrs old and still going strong.

I think the twin core gives them that added strength and durability whereas single core co-ax tends to break down more easily with wear and tear.

Will look at gradually changing all my cables to OBBM over coming year as they are extremely well made and sound better into the bargain.

Cheers
Dave