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Plus, they look great. Easy to wipe down if you're a real drooler. Mark

That's a good idea OG, I'm based in Nottingham, do you know of anyone with a Schroeder in the general vicinity of said crime capital? God, and Royal Mail, willing I should be receiving my amp Monday, so popping to try out may be possible shortly. Machinehead, SHX did inform me of such a consignment and I'm quite interested in that, I much prefer a matte surface over a furry covering. Mark

Well, please let me know if you do end up deciding you want to move it on. I'd be happy to step in and take it off your hands That's a valid point I may need to consider as the amp I've ended up going with, at least for now, is designed to be as transparent as possible. Guess we'll just have to see! Mark

Been meaning to post a reply here for a bit, just to throw in my bit. 'The electric bass' is an instrument, 'bass' is a function that anything that can access the bass register can provide e.g. piano, euphonium, etc. The range of the 'bass' function is somewhat up for debate but for the sake of argument say it typically ranges from as low as a low B to perhaps open G/5th fret D string(?) The necessity inherent in fulfilling the 'bass' function is that you need to have access to and use that range of notes. Following on from that, 'the electric bass' need not and should not necessarily be limited to a function, however it would be appreciated that once you leave that register, you are no longer fulfilling the 'bass' function. The ERB is very much like a piano in that it can access all/most registers, hence it's great for arranging, fulfilling different functions etc. BUT unlike the piano it is very difficult to hold down two very different functions at once (outside of tapping at least), making extra strings seem superfluous at various points, hence when you play low comments of 'why do you need all the higher strings' and when you play high 'why don't you just get a guitar'. In short? My humble opinion is that the ERB is a different instrument, and as such should be treated as one, that it's not something to 'get' or 'not get', that such a question is akin to saxophone player asking a violinist to justify what they play. They may share similar construction and appearance but they are not the same. Note: Not attacking the OP, I think it's a completely valid question, and this is my valid opinion. Now... to bed! Mark EDIT: By the way Dood, your bass rocks!

Bit of an update, today I will be parting with some cash *sob* to purchase the AI Clarus BB2000 is selling... great price for a great amp, and the lightweightness of it makes for a great starting point too! ...Now... if only I had a Schroeder to go with it.... Mark

Most definitely, I think that's why I've perhaps played down the issue of material/wood type (in my own mind at least) as not a massive contributor to tone but as you say, they do vibrate and resonate, so to argue that it is of no impact is incorrect. Well I'm glad we've settled that old chestnut Mark

I got the impression he was a violinist based on all his in class examples and in discussion examples, so perhaps a bit of classical prejudice there. I am personally of the opinion that it does make a difference, but that the impact of construction/craftsmanship, pickup location and type along with amplification is greater. I'm not sure to what extent this is true (sometimes I'm not even sure it is!) but I'd perhaps venture out to say to a greater extent rather than a lesser extent. What are your thoughts Bill? Feel free to tear me a new one if you think otherwise. Mark

Thanks for the insight Bill! It's always interesting to learn from someone in the know such as yourself. I studied physics at uni but never got to discuss much about such things there, although I had a great chat with a lecturer about sound waves and resonances specifically pertaining to electric instruments and how (in his rather authoritative and professional opinion) there should be little to no effect on the sound of a solid body electric instrument as a result of the woods it is made from... can of worms there! I'm now working at a patent firm in the tech and engineering side, hopefully I'll get to have a nosey at some interesting sound related systems before long. Robbie, I won't be ordering a TF or any amp first hand before 2008 so in the event you don't have them in stock if/when I do order, how long would it normally take to get them in? Also you've got a PM. Mark

Thanks for the info, I didn't think it could be the same size as a 2x10, a little bigger maybe but there is a limit to the number of laws of physics that Jorg can break, and he's already broken his quota. Hmmm, there is going to be a wait involved before I obtain a Schroeder so I may see how things pan out as to which specific cab I get. Mark

Embarrassingly I don't know what a typical 2x10 is, I have tended due to the nature of most gigs and events I play to go through what I am provided with and thus have little to no experience of typical anything, other than my own basses. Mark

Someone said that the 21012 is about the same dimensions as a typical 2x10. Can anyone confirm this, cos it always appears much larger than that in the images. Man, this Schroeder m'larky is turning out to be quite burdensome on the future balance of my bank account. Mark

Reeeeally.... hmm, that's a valid concern you raise there. I guess that kind of opens it up to wondering whether it's worth shelling out for the light version, or even if it's worth getting the 1212L, as keeping costs low and going with what I know was why I was opting for the 1210R. Shaun at SHX music said that he prefers the 1210R as it gets a bit more oomph and works very well with rock, but reckons if I'm a 5 or 6 string player I'd perhaps prefer the lights. It seems a lot of you started with 1210's and moved up to 1212's, was that just the 'more power!' thing or was there a genuine bonus to them that you found? Mark P.S. Discussing this is making me go crazy! I want a Schroeder now! P.P.S. ... and perhaps some means of amplification so that it's not just an expensive furry table sitting in my apartment.