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Just in the process of putting my Orange rig up for sale, but I doubt it will be gone in time for me to buy this

[quote name='ChickenKiev' timestamp='1382723965' post='2256034']
I'll probably swap the LH500 in the combo for a HA5500 in the far future though if that's possible. I'm sure it will be as the LH500 is in there using rack ears if I'm not mistaken.
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Just a suggestion:
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/hartke_hx410_hydrive_bundle_2.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/hartke_hx410_hydrive_bundle_2.htm[/url]

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1382715604' post='2255863']
1000 watts means the cab can dissapate a lot of heat. Doesn't say if it's loud or not. Decibels does that.
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Trust me, the LH1000 is one very, very loud amp!

[quote name='Mog' timestamp='1382694545' post='2255444']
Remember that the HX410 is an 8ohm cab so if you run it with the HA or LH head they wont be running at full tilt.
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However if you went for the LH1000 into a single 8 ohm Hydrive 4x10, in bridge mode it would still put out 750 watts. And the cab handles 1000 watt's, so it's still bloody loud.

If you got the 5210c and the 1x15, then no you wouldnt be working either cab to hard as 250 watts would be going into each cab. However add the combo to a 4x10, then the 2x10 would start to overwork. If you think each cab would be taking 250 watts, that means each speaker in the 2x10 would be handling 125 watts, as apposed to the 4x10, each cab is only having to handle 62.5 watts each. There is no way round it I'm afraid

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1382626666' post='2254630']
I play mostly pub gigs, plus a few social clubs.

Genz Benz Shuttle 6 in to two markbass 2 x 10"'s. Works really well for me. Mix of rock, soul, pop, funk, with Fender P or G&L SB1


Prior to this set up I was using Trace, awesome sound & awesome weight.


Playing in Hertford this saturday if you want to check out the rig.
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Where you playing in Hertford mate?
Sorry to de rail the thread

[quote name='sykilz' timestamp='1382536837' post='2253344']
I've owned the ha3500 head and the hydrive 210 combo, unless they changed it you couldn't run an extension cab from the combo,and mine struggled to be loud enough for a rock band, the speakers would fart out at about half volume. The 3500 head into a peavey 4x10 was simply awesome however, plenty of headroom and power and great choice of tones, so for me I'd definitely not get the hydrive combo, seperates is much better route long term, IMO.
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They now do the 5210 combo which has a Hydrive 2x10 cab with the newer LH500 head inside. They can run a second cab fine

[quote name='ChickenKiev' timestamp='1382525840' post='2253134']
Thank you so much for that link.

That is exactly the 'look' I'm wanting to go for.

Shame it wouldn't work with a 410 instead of a 115 though .
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I know a lot of people argue against mixing speaker sizes. But my first Hartke rig was a 2x10 and a 1x15 and it sounded amazing.
I also now have an Orange 2x10 and 1x15 set up, and that also sounds brilliant. I used to have the Orange 4x10, but it was just so heavy, so I much prefer this set up with the Orange stuff now.

Also, when you refer to the combo's, are you talking about the old Hydrive 210C. These only have 250 watt amps in them.
The Hydrive 5210C is the newer version featuring the LH500 watt amp head.

[quote name='ChickenKiev' timestamp='1382465200' post='2252541']
I know this might sound silly and actually quite superficial, but my bandmates both have Marshall half-stacks. I'm the one playing the [i]proper[/i] instrument, so I'd feel completely daft turning up with a small rig! Its getting that measure between size and transportability. That is what lead me to the idea of the combo and extension cab idea as it would be a two trick pony of some sorts; combo for practice with the extension Hydrive waiting in the wings for live stuff.

Where it gets complicated is that Hartke don't do 2x10 Hydrives, which is a completely bonkers idea if you ask me. The only way to get one would be to buy a combo. Hence the Hartke Hydrive 210c combo amp idea in my rig . Choosing a head and then a 4x10 would just land me straight back to my beginning problem.
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There's absolutely nothing daft about a rig with a 4x10 cab and a 1000watt head!
The Hydrive 4x10 is really light as 4x10 cabs go, it weighs about the same as the Hydrive 5210c combo.
If you really don't fancy that option, then I think the 5210c with a Hydrive 1x15 will be your best bet. That wouldn't make the 2x10 work too hard when partnered with a 1x15. It would sit nice and high and you'd get the full 500 watts when using both cabs together (but the LH1000 would use 750 watts with a single 4x10!)

If you take a look at this talkbass thread, [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/new-hartke-hydrive-5210c-combo-amp-702614/"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/new-hartke-hydrive-5210c-combo-amp-702614/[/url] [size=4]the guy has a picture of the Hydrive 5210combo with a Hydrive 1x15, so you can get an idea of what it would look like. Does look like a nice little rig, I just prefer 4x10's.[/size]
I'm sure whatever option you decide on will be a lovely sounding rig. As I mentioned earlier, I love mine

[quote name='andydye' timestamp='1382450799' post='2252265']
it does rather precllude the 'muted tuning' option though doesn't it?
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If I went into the tuners mute input, is there any way of connecting the rear of the tuner to the rear of the amp?

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1382450314' post='2252258']
That is correct.
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Nice one thanks for that

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1382448654' post='2252239']
Yes, if you're not going to use the effects loop you can connect to the tuner input 2 from the send on the amp and have everything nice and tidy. You don't need to have the tuner out connected back into the return on the amp. Why the LH has no tuner out I don't know - a cost issue, I presume.

Edit: That Korg tuner looks totally far out, btw. And not too expensive. Let us know how you get on with it.
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So I would plug my bass into the input at the front of the amp. Then plug a lead into the 'Send' on the rear of the amp, and plug that into 'Input 2' on the rear of the tuner. No other leads needed?
Is that correct?

Hi all

This may sound like a really stupid question, but I was after a bit of advice please.

I was looking at getting a Rack Tuner, probably the new Korg Pitchblack Pro: [url="http://www.korg.com/pitchblackpro"]http://www.korg.com/pitchblackpro[/url]

I was then looking to stick this in a 3U Rack case with my Hartke LH1000.
I've never used a Rack Tuner before, and was wondering how you hook them up to your amp.

Looking at the tuner, it appears to have 3 inputs on the front. One that checks for faulty cables, another which has a mute button above it and a third labelled input 1.
The rear then has one which says output, and one which says input 2.

My Lh1000 then has one input on the front, and an Effects send and return on the rear.

Is it possible to connect the two units at the rear so it's nice and neat in the rack case.

The pictures on Thomann are pretty clear:
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/korg_pitchblack_pro_racktuner.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/korg_pitchblack_pro_racktuner.htm[/url]
[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/hartke_lh1000.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/hartke_lh1000.htm[/url]

Thanks in advance

Hi Mr Kiev

I've just had a good read of your post and can offer you a little advice from my own Hartke experience.
Firstly, I can see why you wanna stick with Hartke. I love the stuff and think the price and quality make it some of the best gear around. Secondly, sorry if this is a bit long winded, but I want you to know how I got to my final rig.

My first proper ever rig several years ago was the Hartke HA3500, with the 2.5XL (2x10 + tweeter) cab, plus the 1x15XL cab.
I loved that rig and can see why you wanna stick with that head. But I fancied a change and sold it and moved over to an decent Ashdown rig. I never really got on too well with that rig and really missed my Hartke stuff. I managed to trade the Ashdown for a great Orange rig, with the Terror bass head, which I still have now.

But prior to that I went and bought the LH1000 head with the Hydrive 4x10 cab. Without doubt, this would be my recommendation to you. I also looked at getting the Hydrive 2x10 combo and adding a 4x10 at a later date. But like somebody mentioned earlier, that would result in the 2x10 cab working twice as hard as the 4x10 cab. And there's no getting away from that issue.
I also wanted to stay away from the 1x15, purely because the Hydrive 4x10 is such a fantastic cab.

I play in a covers band and we play a lot of weddings etc in marquee's, so I bought a second 4x10 to add to my rig. But I hardly ever take that out, because the LH1000 with a single 4x10 is such a loud rig anyway.
The reason I mentioned my Orange rig earlier is because I still have it, yet I hardly ever take it out. The Hydrive 4x10 is such a brilliant, loud and very light (for a 4x10) cab. Used with the LH1000 it's such a fantastic rig, I can't see that you'd regret it or ever need anything else.
If you want any further info, PM your number and we can have a chat. But I really can't recommend that rig enough. Also have a look on Thomann, as they are pretty cheap usually with the cabs.

Why don't you just fill the existing holes, and re drill for the new scratch plate of your choice.
I personally think a tort plate on a fiesta red P bass looks awesome. It would be real shame to spoil a bass like that with a white plate, but that's just me!

A clean ship is a happy ship!
I think a tidy stage just looks so much more professional. We are a covers band playing pubs/parties/weddings etc, but there's no need to look like a bag of sh*t on stage. Look the part/feel the part/play the part.
I think punters will take you more seriously too, so long as you can back up the look with the music! But first impressions go a long way, and I think folk walking in to a pub with a pro looking band are more likely to take more interest from the start.

As for clothes, if it's a pub do then we wear smart jeans and shirts, but for private do's we have matching trousers, shirts and tie's. But I do appreciate that image isn't suitable for all types of bands, but we play mainly 60's covers, so it suits (no pun intended) our image.

[attachment=136381:Autumn Stone Band.jpg]

Quick snap of me and the other lads in Autumn Stone playing a wedding last Saturday.


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[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1359929610' post='1962300']
Lovely! Unusual to see one with a bullet headstock.
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I thought all 70's jazz basses had bullet truss rods?

The Beatles never really got over losing Stuart Sutcliffe on bass.
Can't remember the name of the other guy who took over?
But if they'd have stuck with Sutcliffe, boy! They could have changed the face of popular music

Just emailed the guy at Bear Straps to see if he can make me one I saw in a picture that Noel Gallagher was using.
Hopefully he'll get back to me saying he can. It may even be one of his straps as he's advertised as using them.
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/Zpwik_hloSR/Isle+Of+Wight+Festival+Day+4/HlU4tkeApEH/Noel+Gallagher

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1354220396' post='1883875']
Sure you can?

Will it make a difference? No idea, you'd gain about 20 centimetres in height, and if that makes the difference of the drivers being closer to your ear then by all means do it.

You cn always try it first? you won't break anything anyway by doing it.

I always stack my 2x10 vertically as it's a massive height difference. The ampegs I have now are made to stand vertically with feet on the actual bottoms. I was using Markbass TRV210p's and they are designed to stand horizontally, but the plastic corners act as feet so I could of stacked them however I pleased and they still stood up right ok.
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I just wasn't sure if the positioning of the port may affect the way the cab sounded/performed

Hi guys

I recently traded my Orange OBC 410, and now have the Orange OBC 115 and 210. I've read plenty of threads where people suggest stacking cabs on their side is much better as the stack will be physically higher and closer to your ear.
The Orange OBC 115 and 210 are the same dimension cab, each with a port to the side.
Would it still be OK to stack the cabs vertically so that the port of each cab is at the bottom and the rig is higher. Just wondered if this would affect the cab in any way. Also the cabs have wooden skids on the bottom.

Here's a link to a picture for reference: http://www.orangeamps.com/products/bass-guitar-speaker-enclosures/obc-series/obc-210-speaker-cab/

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks in advance

Tim is a top bloke to deal with.
We traded Orange cabs recently, he was always updating me and very friendly to speak with (via text).
I would highly recommend Tim to anyone looking to buy/sell/trade with him.

Thanks again Tim

[quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1352836593' post='1868219']
I've done it!
Picked up a 2012 4003 in Midnight blue this afternoon:)
I had the luxury of trying out 4 different 4003 Ricks... 3 new 2012's and a 2005, they all felt and sounded pretty good to me (I'd of gone with any of them) which I wasn't really expecting after reading a lot of reviews where people say you need to try a lot to find a good one. Maybe the 2012's are all decent or I got lucky.
Got home and strapped on a used set of Labella flats and it sounds and plays the biz. Tomorrow I get to try it out with the band and have high hopes it will fit in nicely.

One draw-back was getting a rather worrying text message later in the day from the Wife, asking if I had gone mad spending that much on a bass!
I promised her I'd move one of the collection on and that seemed to smooth things out a bit.

I'll try get some pics up within the next couple of days.

Happy days indeed.
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Nice one Highfox, glad it worked out for you. I remember lusting after a Ric for ages before I got mine.
Been using my P bass lately, but you've just inspired me to use my Ric for our gig on Saturday night.