Can the bass flyrig v2 emulate the BDDI blend control?

[dave_bass5]

Ok, i know the FR has the BDDI tone circuit, but most players i know that use a BDDI have the blend turned down to less than half. I’ve not been able to gig with it full up, but love the sound at around 10 o’clock. 
As the FR doesn’t have this control, does that mean it’s pretty 100% the sansamp tone. 
 

With my old VTBass DI i would use the blend full up so that side isnt a problem. 
 

Appreciate this has probably been covered but i cant find anything. 
 

The reason im looking at the FR is for the BDDI tone and Chorus. Otherwise i might just be looking at the SH1. 

[Skybone]

As I bought a FlyRig v2 recently on here, I had a quick look at the manual for both the FRv2 & BDDI.

 

There isn't a blend control on the panel, and it doesn't look like there's any facility for it in the manual.

 

Don't forget that you also have the 2 channels of BDDI/VTDI, Compressor & OctaFilter, which can do the AutoWah thing, as well as sub-octave & fuzz. Versatile piece of gear.

 

I couldn't belive how small it was either!  

[dave_bass5]

18 minutes ago, Skybone said:

 

 

Don't forget that you also have the 2 channels of BDDI/VTDI, Compressor & OctaFilter, which can do the AutoWah thing, as well as sub-octave & fuzz. Versatile piece of gear.

 

Yeah, but if the core tone is not what I can use, it's not worth the cost for me. I can make use of the Filter and Chorus, would never use the Sub-octave or fuzz, but would use the VTBass side occasionally I suppose. Without a way to back off the BDDI tone its not for me. 

[Tech21NYC]

The Bass Driver "DI" was designed to facilitate the old school way of both mic'ing and direct inject that was done in the studios and stage for years. I can't recall that last time I've seen any live sound tech or studio engineer employ this technique. Typically they would close mic your bass amp and split the signal to a DI. The mic'd amp sound would provide the character and body to your tone and the DI of your instrument would add definition. The two sounds were mixed accordingly and your final sound was a composite. 

 

Fast forward to how things are presently done. Most studio applications are DI'd bass. For live situations most sound techs will either plug you into a DI box and you just use your bass amp as your stage monitor or they will take a DI out of your bass amp. Bass amps will typically have a pre/post setting on the DI. The pre setting is just the sound of your bass pickups and the post is the sound of your amp but most amps don't have compensated (speaker sim) outputs. 

 

The idea behind the Bass Driver is that you would plug into the BDDI and send the parallel output to your amp for your stage and room sound and the SansAmp output would go to the board giving the engineer a more consistent feed and a more complex tone. 

 

The Bass Fly Rig was not designed to work like the Bass Driver. 

 

I think a lot of players associate the SansAmp sound with distortion. They can do clean to overdrive to very distorted if desired. You don't have to use the Blend to obtain clean tones. They operate like old school tubes amps but have the advantage of producing distortion without the need for high volume levels like an old SVT, HiWatt etc. 

[dave_bass5]

Thanks, that's a long way of saying no, but I appreciate the response. 

Ive been using a BDDI for a good 20+ years. I really struggled at first, but once I figure out the Blend knob I love what I hear. Used it was pretty much every bass ive owned. In all the reviews of the FL they mention the song soo the BDDI and VTBass, but this seems a bit skewed. I understand the BDDI sound might be there, but that all depends on how you use the BDDI in the first place I guess. 

Obviously this is more a personal issue, I just like how the BDDI sounds when I have my setting dialled in, but even now I struggle to use it if the Blend is all the way up and im using a rig ( I use full blend at home though). 

[Tech21NYC]

Vintage tube Ampeg SVT, V4's, Traynors, Sunn, Marshalls had no "Blend" control which is why I mentioned the reason for the design. 

 

I think for a lot of players that have only played solid state amps and have never spent a considerable amount of time with tube amps, any type of OD can seem like an effect. When I cut bass tracks at home I usually just use my old Leeds pedal. No blend. I used to go into my Great River ME-1NV through my Emperical Labs Distressor but found even just running the Leeds fairly clean the bass sounds more there and melds with the track better. 

 

What are you plugging the Bass Driver into? An amp, mixer? 

[dave_bass5]

24 minutes ago, Tech21NYC said:

Vintage tube Ampeg SVT, V4's, Traynors, Sunn, Marshalls had no "Blend" control which is why I mentioned the reason for the design. 

 

I think for a lot of players that have only played solid state amps and have never spent a considerable amount of time with tube amps, any type of OD can seem like an effect. When I cut bass tracks at home I usually just use my old Leeds pedal. No blend. I used to go into my Great River ME-1NV through my Emperical Labs Distressor but found even just running the Leeds fairly clean the bass sounds more there and melds with the track better. 

 

What are you plugging the Bass Driver into? An amp, mixer? 

I dont use it to recreate anything, and couldn’t care less about any amps from the past, i just like the tone and how it warms up my sound. Ive had the MKI, the MKII and have also owned the VTBass DI and Paradriver V2 over the years. I never pay any attention to the PR blurb that tells you how wonderfully accurate these things are, i just like what they do for me. In fact ive never owned  any  of those amps you mention, but yeah, most amps dont have a blend. 

 

I use the 1/4 out in to the front of a bass rig, or sometimes via the return. I have always dont this and know it works for me. I was hoping the FR might be a way to have my usual BDDI tone with a bit of Chorus and filter on top, from just one box. Its not a big deal, i was just asking here in case i was missing a way to do with without a dedicated Blend knob. I might even give it a go anyway and see what i can come up with. 

I guess at the end of the day, for me the BDDI is an EQ pedal that does what i need. 

Edited 7 hours ago by dave_bass5