Mrbigstuff

My first overwater came with Ken Armstrong pickups and a John East preamp. It really was a thunderous sound. Anyone got any ideas on when his pickups were in Ken Smith basses?

I’m going to guess that it originates from someone’s shed

The buzzard bass isn’t exactly mainstream is it? If someone was going to ruin a bass I’m happy it’s that ugly thing and not something good that the masses would want. 

I really hope these Sadowsky basses turn out to be good value for money (which was likely the objective) and basschaters end up in a frenzy buying them up.

We can then all look back and laugh at this ludicrous thread.

Oh has that taken place? Not me then

Can someone put me out of my misery and tell me what the song is. Heard it before a few times but can’t think where it’s from

Bob Reynolds at Band on the wall twice. First time my parents were visiting as they were going to a show at Manchester arena. I misjudged the time it would take to walk from the arena to BOTW so despite walking so fast my girlfriend got blisters we arrived at the end of the first set. 15 mins into the second set my parents rang to say they’re show had finished and they were waiting for us. 🤬

Second time, had to leave halfway through the second set to catch last train back from Manchester Piccadilly. At that moment though Janek Gwizdala was doing his pedal thing and I just don’t find it musical, so wasn’t as bothered as before.

1 hour ago, TheGreek said:

Just looked at the Kytary website - no strings!!!

Not sure if this is for the reason stated in @Teebs's post.

The stock list changes depending on country selected 

Well if he’s saying reverse PU reduces the low mids, then I guess you’d want it the other way for when you need those low mids. In funk and Disco the bass often occupies those frequencies to cut through and be pronounced as it has an important role in that music. 
 

The reverse P on Lee sklar’s P bass sounds epic but I imagine that’s more to do with his playing than the bass itself.

Depends on a lot. You could be pretty quick on very low action and with thin strings but it might not sound good. Pick or fingers?

I personally find I can play simple semi quaver patterns around 115- 120bpm finger style. Don’t think I could do that playing semi quaver scales though. But my action is medium and it’s harder on fretless to get the intonation Bob on at speed. 
 

I suppose hand size would come into it too. I have small hands so can’t stretch like Jaco did.

On 13/02/2021 at 10:48, Al Krow said:

 

Cue gratuitous pic of my solitary, but much appreciated, Spector...

Am I right that you have/ had one of the Nathan East Yamaha models? How does that compare to the Euro 5? The one at BD is a similar price to the Spector Euro classic.

13 hours ago, Al Krow said:

I think we discussed the Euro 5 Classic briefly before, but for some reason I hadn't clocked that they were being made in PJ configuration. They look fantastic - I'm very tempted!

Well that’s got my attention. Not played a Spector in a long time. I’ve always seen them as a basic looking Warwick and been put off by the 35” scale. Has anyone got a good Youtube example of how the Euro sounds?

17 hours ago, TheGreek said:

I think I now know what I want. I'll just need to keep my eyes open for a bass that conforms to those wants.

I may have to put two of the three up for sale in the not too distant future.

If you know what you want great, get a custom made bass. There’s lots of really good UK luthiers. If it’s a jazz style bass shape I’d definitely be looking at Overwater. 

5 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

I didn’t know that, do they use them on cheap instruments now, most of the ones I’ve seen have been on quite expensive basses 🙂

Sire do it. In the podcast kiwi shared they talked about how it makes the neck feel played in when new.

1 hour ago, Kevsy71 said:

Arbiter 4001 copy, bought 1985. £135 from local music shop

Then a big gap until 2012, when the floodgates opened....and have only recently closed

JHS Stingray 'tribute'

Music Man Bongo

Sandberg California VS P custom build, 'Goldfinger'

ACG Über Recurve with ART maple

Limelight P in Sonic Blue

Limelight J in Fiesta Red

Fender 1979 P

Vintage Tony Butler P

Music Man Reflex Gamechanger

Fender CS faded surf green '64 P

Fender MIM P

Fender Classic 50s P

Fender Road Worn 50s P

Fender 1964  P

Xotic XP-1T

Vintage Icon relic fretless

Wal MK1, Olive Ash facings

Rickenbacker 1975 4001

Alembic MK

Music Man Classic Stingray

Alembic Essence

Fender CS Dusty Hill P Gold Top

Ibanez SRX 505 5

Maruszczyk Jake L4P

Fender Vintera 50s P

Fender Japan 62JB-75US CIJ Jazz Ocean Turquoise Metallic

Bass Centre Bruce Thomas Profile

Fender MIM Player Jazz

Fender CS Sean Hurley P

Fender Japan Jazz (black)

Xotic XJ-1T 5

Ken Smith BSR5EG

Moollon P

Yamaha TRBII 5

Bass Centre Bruce Thomas Profile

The one I still own is in bold

The ones I miss most are the Alembic, ACG, Wal and Fender '79 P.

The biggest surprise was the Xotic XJ-1T 5, so easy to play for a 4-stringer like me.

The ones in italics I've sold to Basschatters, having bought several from Basschatters too.

I let you guess when I joined Basschat

Proof a solid p bass is all a bass player needs

I had a version 1 V7 and the hardware was great. As reliable as the hipshot hardware I have on another bass, although maybe not as lightweight.

1 hour ago, Bunion said:

The thumb goes on the pick guard playing on the E and the E string playing everything else. 
I had to retrain myself but damn what a difference to background sound... 

Even better, learn the floating thumb technique and master muting the E, A and D. Works on any bass. 

Well now I want a V5... “I can’t, I can’t” 🤦‍♂️

4 hours ago, binky_bass said:

So - Here's the last 2 years worth of them in alphabetical order!

No	Name
1	ACG 6
2	ACG 9
3	Aria FET Elite
4	Aria P-bass type
5	Aria Pro II Mad Axe
6	Aries Bajadera 6
7	Aries Senes 6
8	Aries Senes VS 6
9	Bee Bass 10
10	Bee Bass 5
11	Benson Strat Type
12	Chantry Dreadnaught
13	Conklin GrooveTools 8
14	Cort A6 - 1
15	Cort A6 - 2
16	Cort AD880CE BK
17	Cort Banjo 5
18	Cort Banjo 6
19	Cort C5H
20	Crafter Anniversary Cranes
21	Crafter Anniversary Dragon
22	Crafter Anniversary Moon Light - 1
23	Crafter Anniversary Moon Light - 2
24	Crafter Anniversary Peacock
25	Crafter Anniversary Pegesus
26	Crafter Anniversary Salmon
27	Crafter Anniversary Sunrise
28	Crafter Anniversary Twin Birds
29	Crafter Anniversary Windsurfer
30	Crafter BA400 EQ - 4
31	Crafter BA400EQ/N - 1
32	Crafter BA400EQ/N - 2
33	Crafter BA400EQ/N - 3
34	Crafter GAE-1
35	Crafter GAE15/N
36	Crafter GAE-8
37	Crafter GAE8/VLS-V
38	Crafter SJC-420EQ
39	Crafter TGAE06/N
40	De Gier Elevation 6 Aguilar
41	De Gier Elevation 6 Glockenlang
42	Dean Matt Heafy Razor
43	Dean Super Strat type
44	Eastcoast Acoustic Bass
45	Eastcoast Concert
46	Eastcoast Strat - Baby Blue
47	Eastcoast Strat - Natural
48	Eko Ranger 12
49	Encore Dreadnaught
50	Epherial Custom 8
51	Epiphone Black Beauty
52	Epiphone Dot Natural
53	Epiphone Dot Studio
54	Epiphone EL-00 Pro
55	Epiphone J200 Black
56	Epiphone J200 Natural
57	Epiphone J200 Natural - 2
58	Epiphone LP Black
59	Epiphone LP Blue
60	Epiphone LP Tobacco burst
61	Epiphone Thunderbird
62	Epiphone Thunderbird - 3
63	Epiphone Thunderbird Pro
64	Epiphone Wildkat
65	ESP LTD 6
66	Fender DC-5CENAT
67	Fender Highway 1 P
68	Fender Strat MIM Wine Red
69	Fender Telecaster Acoustisonic
70	Fender USA Jazz 5
71	Fender USA P
72	Fenix FAE-2
73	Fodera Type AJ6 (forget the luthiers name!)
74	G4M Dreadnaught
75	G4M Roundback 4
76	G4M Roundback 5
77	Gibson Explorer
78	Gibson Thunderbird
79	Godin A6
80	Gould LP Type
81	Gretsch Rancher 12
82	Harley Benton PRS Type
83	Harrier P-Bass
84	Hokada Dreadnaught
85	Hondo P-Bass
86	Hondo SG type
87	Ibanez 70's Hummingbird
88	Ibanez Acoustic Bass 4
89	Ibanez Acoustic Bass 5
90	Ibanez ANB306
91	Ibanez ART Custom LP
92	Ibanez Artcore semi hollow
93	Ibanez EWB205WNENT1201
94	Ibanez Roadstar
95	Ibanez Roadster 79
96	Ibanez SGGR
97	Jerzy Drozd 7
98	Keiper Jazz Bass
99	Keiper Roundback
100	Keiper Super Strat type
101	Lakestone custom 7
102	Martin 000 USA
103	Martin Concert MIM
104	Martin DCX1KE
105	Martin Smith Roundback
106	Megatar 14 string
107	Michael Kelly Fretless 5 Acoustic
108	MTD 246 Fretless
109	Noguera 8
110	Ovation Celebrity Deluxe
111	Overwater Progress 7
112	Overwater Progress III 7
113	Ozard Resonator Bass
114	Ozark Banjo 6
115	Ozark Resonator
116	Peavey Millennium AC BXP
117	Peavey Millennium BXP
118	Performer 4 Bass
119	PRS Custom 22
120	PRS Custom 24
121	PRS SE Custom 24
122	PRS Se EG
123	Rainsong Jumbo Carbon
124	Reiver 7
125	Revelation 335 type
126	Revelation LP P90
127	Revelation SG type
128	Rockwood P
129	Sandberg Panther Special 5
130	Sei Custom 6
131	Sei Headless 6
132	Shuker custom 6
133	Spector USA NS6XL
134	Squier Jazz
135	Squier Strat
136	Squire Mustang
137	Stagg Classical
138	Takemine C-128
139	Takemine EG52
140	Takemine G Series Acoustic
141	Tanglewood Baron 6
142	Tanglewood Crossroads
143	Tanglewood Parlour
144	Tanglewood TVC 12 N
145	Tokia Thunderbird
146	Tom Anderson Strat
147	Unbranded 12 string dreadnaught
148	Unbranded Blue dreadnaught
149	Unbranded Strat type
150	Unbranded Through Neck 4
151	USA Conklin 8
152	Vintage V300MH
153	Warrior 7 String
154	Warrior MD 6
155	Warwick Alien 6
156	Warwick Custom Shop fretless
157	Warwick LX 6
158	Warwick Rockbass 5 black
159	Warwick Rockbass 5 Red
160	Warwick Streamer 5
161	Warwick Streamer NT 6
162	Warwick Thumb BO 6
163	Warwick Thumb SC 6
164	Washburn EA180TB
165	Washburn HJ402
166	Washburn Les Paul
167	Washburn MG34
168	Wesley Acrylic 5 Bass
169	Wesley Acrylic LP type
170	Yamaha AP Acoustic
171	Yamaha APX-5-12A
172	Yamaha BB White
173	Yamaha BB1100s
174	Yamaha Classical
175	Yamaha JM6
176	Yamaha RG series guitar
177	Yamaha TRB1006J - Black
178	Yamaha TRB1006J - Natural
179	Yamaha TRB1006J - Orange
180	Yamaha TRB6
181	Yamaha TRBJP6

In the last two years I’ve bought a hard case (pick it up at the weekend to replace one sold) and the BC straplocks 😂 

For anyone else who needs them, AT did have some in stock.  Cheers @MartinB for the suggestion 

A lifetime of funk in this book: https://www.halleonard.com/product/690744/funk-bass-bible

Well my mrs cant complain anymore 

8 hours ago, AndyTravis said:

@PatrickJ and I were talking about how many basses I’ve got through.

We had a laugh, I shared ridiculous purchases (the Samick I bought when bladdered which I then Sold to @lee650 the next day) among others...

So - from memory...

Kay precision
Yamaha bb300 Japan
Washburn xb100
Jackson c5p
Schecter model t Robert DeLeo 
Fender American standard jazz bass
Warwick corvette
Spector NS-94
Fender Marcus Miller Jazz Bass
Epiphone Jack Casady
Fender 50’s classic P
Fender Japan 62P
Fender 75 Jazz FSR limited
Squier 83 Japan p/j
Jackson c20
Hohner B2A
Rickenbacker 4003
Musicman Stingray 3eq Piezo
Musicman Bongo HH
Hofner Violin “cavern”
Jaydee Supernatural 
Ken Smith Burner Artist
Musicman Stingray Classic
Musicman Stingray 2eq 
Status Kingbass Artist
Status Groove Bass
Fender Geddy Lee Japan
Fender Nate Mendel
Sandberg California 5
Yamaha TRB5p2
Fender Roscoe Beck V
Peavey g bass
peavey gv bass (owned this twice)
Self build plexiglass P
Self build p/j with limelight neck
Self build p/j duck Dunn
Farida j fretted
Farida j fretless
Farida fjb6 red
Farida fjb6 white
Mike Lull 5 jazz
Fender mex p/j deluxe
Fender roger waters
Fender geddy Lee mex
Fender custom shop 64 relic jazz (twice)
Fender custom shop 64 NOS
Fender custom shop 55p relic
Fender 1977 p
Fender 1975 p
Fender Japan Fretless P 70’s
Fender PBAC fl
Fender power jazz special
Epiphone thunderbird classic
Epiphone thunderbird non reverse
Dearmond star fire
Sadowsky metro J
Sadowsky metro p
Status guy pratt
Status smart bass
Epiphone jack Casady blue
Spector Euro 435lx
Fender Marcus Miller white
Fender Marcus Miller natural (refin)
Modulus Flea Bass
Yamaha bb200
Yamaha bb300
Yamaha bb350f 
Yamaha bb425x
Yamaha bb415
Yamaha bb1100s 1986
Yamaha bb1100s 1988
Yamaha bb1024x
Yamaha bb614
Yamaha bb414
Yamaha bbg4a2
Musicman 1994 stingray 2eq
Godlyke disciple
Washburn sb40eq
Aria sb700
Aria sb1000
Aria Steve Bailey
Guild b30e
Tacoma thunder chief 
Fender mex 60’s burgundy FSR
Sigma acoustic bass
Yamaha attitude special
Yamaha attitude standard pink
Yamaha attitude standard black
Yamaha attitude plus
Yamaha bb714bs 
PRS EBIV
Yamaha rbx360 (think it was a 350)
Fender Stu Hamm Urge
Self build billy sheehan wife bass
Yamaha BEX4c
Hohner Bbass natural 
Hohner Bbass Black (still have this at a mates)
Fender AVRI 62P
Fender Roadworn Jazz
Danelectro 59dc bass
Breedlove 5 string bass
Ibanez BTB676
Gear4Music acoustic 5 (defretted)
Samick HFB-590
Oldfield acoustic bass (stolen by a crackhead)

And a Tune bass arriving this week.

please...if you can...share your list of shame.

and if you’ve bought a bass from me, and it’s not on the list, please mention it.

im so ashamed.

never once have I said any of this has made me a good bass player.

Favourite and least favourite?

and biggest surprise (good or bad)

14 hours ago, stingrayPete1977 said:

If I really want it I'll offer to pay the extra fees to pay with protection, of they refuse to accept that then you know it's going to be a scam, same as being refused collection in person when an item is local. 

Out of interest how much are the fees? 

26 minutes ago, Beedster said:

Yep, comments regarding the value of individual components mean little when those components have been so poorly put together. The whole in this case is less than the sum of the parts, although at used prices they were already stretching it. Seems someone’s trying to get a good return on a decent neck by bolting it to a few other bits and proclaiming it a US instrument. I find Bass Direct are generally OK on these things, this one must have slipped through I guess 

Nothing on bass direct. They ask the owner what they want for it and put their commission on top. If it sells it sells, if not nothing lost.

9 minutes ago, AndyTravis said:

Really liked these when I worked in a fender dealership, I fitted a wide bevel celluloid tort pickguard to one I sold for the customer and added covers. Looked the dogs danglies...

Yeh I’ve seen similar Moollon’s with that combo and they look great. Specs were US standard pickups, blizzard Pearl finish, B width neck. I also love how the body colour matches the logo. Mine has been fitted with Lindy Fralin pickups and had the fretwork sorted out at the Gallery which really helped the action.
Just found this old clip I played it on (wow 7 years ago!)