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johnny_frog

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  1. [quote name='paul_5' post='1323862' date='Aug 2 2011, 09:19 AM']Youse guys could have made an effort there - the young lady has obviously gone to some lengths to 'scrub up' a bit - the rest of you look homeless in comparison. That's the worst thing about being in a band with a girl type. :lol:[/quote]

    hey... that's my Sunday best vest :)

    but yeah... with Kris singing and Alycia on drums, the glamour side is covered to the extent that I see little point in trying to compete :)

  2. "An interesting debate. I think there is an interesting tension between the idea of the art and craft of music, the art and craft of entertainment and the complex dynamics of genre and the market. It is perfectly possible to have a career as a 'musician' without any significant technique (e.g. Adam Clayton) and to have great technique and little or no market for what you do. In simple terms, technique stops and music begins when the artist/performer does not have to seek the means to execute his or her ideas but has them at her or his fingertips. I guess this means different things to different people and a metal bassist a la Cliff Williams will have no strong ambition to excel 'tedhnically' whereas Jeff Berlin will define his development by this aspect of his playing. Horses for courses. The fact is, the overarching 'market' that is music has no baseline (sic) for competence. If you can hold a bass in a video, that'a all that is required for some producers. Others (Becker & Fagan?)look for something that is much harder to define."

    Maybe it depends on how you term "music".
    If it means something that elisits a strong emotional response in the listener then perhaps "technique" to an extent doesn't matter a monkey's...

    For me personally, Jaco has never moved me...
    I can appreciate the skill, musicality and technique etc. etc. but listening to Weather Report has never done it for me...

    However, the chugging open E as Mr Williams comes into the chorus of Highway to Hell has my spine tingling and the rest of me jumping around all over the place.

    Everyone will have a different view... that's what makes the world the wonderful vibrant place it is :)

  3. "It's interesting because music is a language, you can learn its vocabulary, but how does one COMMUNICATE to others in a way they understand what is intended? It's an interpretive language and I think drawing parallels with verbal languages is inadequate."

    I suppose that would be the creative bit... using the techniques and tools you have to allow you to convey an idea to your audience.

    As an example...
    "Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rage at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light." Dylan Thomas

    Versus
    " I know you are old but don't just give up and die" Me

    Both use the same technique (english) to convey the same basic information... but to my mind Mr. Thomas does it a bit more creatively :)

    Oh... and good choice of debate topic mate... way more interesting that discussing scratchplate colour :)

  4. For me, music in its purest form is an art... a method of creative expression.
    Technique and music theory give you the tools/language to allow you to express yourself in a way others can understand.

    However just knowing the technique doesn't neccessarily make you creative... I can write in english because I have the tools but that doesn't make me a poet.

    All personal opinion/viewpoint of course

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