Merton

17 minutes ago, asingardenof said:

First outing for the Elf at rehearsal today. I will definitely be leaving the ABM at home for future rehearsals!

The Elf and a Two10 in landscape mode is quite the thing to behold. Punches well above its weight!

In my day job I work for a company which manufactures in Poland and Germany and then ships direct to customers in the UK. We have this happen an awful lot - since the unmentionable of course, before that it was fine…

Basically it’s sitting waiting customs clearance and there’s sweet FA you or Thomann can do about it. It will reappear soon I’m sure.

But don’t worry, your next passport will be blue 😃

Like @Franticsmurf last night was my first gig using IEMs only. A wedding gig near Holborn, the “wedding planner” company did a fairly poor job of considering both band and DJ (stage set up for DJ booth, “oh we forgot we’d need to put a band somewhere too…”)

75dB limit, we were not allowed amps, monitors, acoustic kit, even our own DIs and mics… 

We ended up in the corner, with the electric kit wedged between the stage and the PA speakers. Guitarist other side of the speakers, keyboard player out in no man’s land. The singer and I were both wireless so ended up being either side of the DJ booth, or on the dance floor with the lovely crowd.

Going back to the organisation, we were proudly given a “green room” 5 minutes walk from the marquee which had no food, drink or toilet facilities, when we got fed our singer’s chicken wasn’t cooked and we ended up starting about 1 hour later than scheduled (which to be fair is standard for a wedding… just that by this point no one from the planners was around so no one was taking charge!!)

We decided to shorten our two sets into one long one, and as we neared the end we played our “last song” then immediately got switched off for the DJ. Thanks to the minimalist set up we had finished, packed and loaded the van within 15 minutes 😂

All in all, the playing part was ace, my first IEM-only gig and it generally worked fine (got to check a niggle with my earbuds but I think operator error highly likely the cause) plus it was an excuse to buy a Backbeat. The crowd were great and danced all night. Just a shame about the “wedding planners” and their lack of organisational skill 😃

I bought a Backbeat v1 on eBay last week specifically for my gig last night - IEMs, no monitoring or amps, a stupid 75dB volume limit. I can see it being an expensive toy I use once or twice a year tbh…

It was great fun but reading through this about the feedback, that was definitely something I need to learn to tame. And the wire management was a bit nuts…

Bass into Backbeat, into wireless 

Wireless IEM receiver into Backbeat then earphones out.

Do most people just use it with their bass and keep the IEM mix as a separate thing?

An overly complicated IEM set up for tonight’s incredibly quiet wedding gig. Bought the Backbeat for this, need a better solution for the leads I think 🤔

I’m out, surprisingly a lot later than I thought I’d be at the beginning of the year.

I bought myself a Backbeat purely because my gig tonight has a stupid 75dB limit (honestly what are these guys smoking…?) so we are strictly on IEMs without anything onstage.

So a sort-of necessary purchase but still it stops me from making the cut this year sadly. Maybe next!

Bought to go with my HX Effects last year but no longer needed thanks to fitting that to a board so I can run my wireless more easily.

VGC

Price includes UK mainland postage

1 hour ago, ossyrocks said:

Elf and BF cabs here too. I have a choice of One10 and Two10s depending on the situation. Great with my Precisions. 
I’m curious about your EQ on the Elf, what do you run them at? I’m tending to run everything at noon except Mid which is at 1 o’clock.

 

Rob

Everything at noon pretty much! Sounds so good. Sometimes nudge the mids depending on the situation.

Gorgeous!

Did a weird sort of 2-in-1 gig yesterday in Cambridge at a corporate “family fun day” event. First hour was the “rock band for kids”, with about 3 kids in attendance and the rest of the audience slightly amused adults.

Second set was the same musicians but cranking it up a notch for the “grown up party band”.

Was hot, humid and sticky and our drummer nearly fainted near the end of the second set but we made it through.

Left home 9.30am, had a shite journey up (took 4 hours, haven’t driven a manual vehicle for that length of time in over a decade!), but given it was a day event I was home almost exactly 12 hours later so can’t complain

Basses were my ACG Finns (a 4 and a 5), amp was the Trace TE-1200 and cab was a single BF Two10S, and all sounded fecking marvellous even with me at the controls.

Today I am recovering from the crappy drive by fixing a shower and dishwasher, coz I know how to live 🤓

On 23/06/2023 at 23:39, Downunderwonder said:

I combine all kinds of gear on the basis of what I can be bothered carting around and it all sounds pretty damn similar with some fx helping it along. I think sonic matching is a marketing invention to sell you an amp and a cab and a bass all at once.

Absolutely, in terms of one manufacturer saying “cab A with amp B”. And that is almost always tosh, especially the way a lot of mainstream cabs are “designed” 😄

We’re just celebrating other combinations we have decided we personally think work

Bit more South than South West but Feline in Croydon

Great bass, great bloke (even if he slaps on flats… 😃)

I’ve owned both (because, being the fool that I am, I’ve had this model 3 times 🤣🤣) - I wouldn’t have a clue which was which based on sound or construction, except the little tiny writing on the back.

She’s a nutter 😄

56 minutes ago, silverfoxnik said:

Thanks Mert 👍

 

The Ashdown guys are great to deal with - Dave sent me a bunch of preamp valves last year after I had a chat wirh him. 

 

P. S. How's it going in the new band with Wendy? 

Slowly! Guitarist #1 has hurt his hand so we’ve been out of action since early May. Hoping to get back to it in July and get some gigs booked for the second half of the year coz the cupboard is bare with that at the moment! Keeping occupied with Katy Hurt gigs and some other bits and bobs though

Great amp, great price, great guy to buy from!

When I owned it Ashdown gave it a full service and revalve so it should be sweet for many a year to come

Yep my Trace TE-1200 and TE Elf with Barefaced Two10s are both something to behold  The Two10 cabs just seem to love whether you give them tbh!

Ashdown pairs well with BF too.

Glockenklang do very flat and clean as their starting point but have options to dial in other tones, which you can ignore.

Eich (TecAmp) are supposed to be quite clean sounding?

The new Trace TE-1200 is a massive sounding clean amp albeit unlikely to appear second hand yet…

Aguilar AG700?

Trickfish - rare 2!d hand but clean.

Vanderkley - even rarer but still clean.

will add more if I think of them

37 minutes ago, BassmanPaul said:

Stacked vertically they take up less stage area. That might be important at some gigs.

 

Had a band leader who complained about my amp being so big. He also complained about my use of a Six String bass as if he could tell the difference on sound alone. Meanwhile he had a Bunch of instruments splayed around him that he actually never played!  He was also the weakest member of the band! LOL

 

Standard band leader 😅

28 minutes ago, BassmanPaul said:

@Stofferson Stack those two on their ends for a vertical 4x10 for s further experience in delight. They'll work better out in the room and you'll be able to hear yourself way better!

 

These have a high-passed speaker so actually work out a little like a line array. They do work great vertically but they also work great like this

1 hour ago, asingardenof said:

That very much does help, thanks! Maybe I'll save it for when I can buy an extra two and can run all three cabs at full bore. Might need another amp at that point though. Hmm...

Nope, 3x12 ohm cabs = 4 ohms.

Do it.

You know you want to.

😀

Just now, Reggaebass said:

Didn’t know that, have you tried both and is there much difference in the bass 

Yep, noticeable difference. There’s a YouTube video from BF showing it too (if you use decent headphones!)

Frankly there’s a lot more to it but my head is fried and I can’t explain it properly 😅

Actually I take that back. The Two10 is designed to have a different tone when vertical vs when horizontal. More phatness if horizontal, tighter and more focussed bottom end of vertical. Plus of course drivers closer to your ears.