Mykesbass

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='852502' date='May 31 2010, 12:09 PM']Sounds like you're coming home I always hated playing in bands with two guitards. I can't think of anything more horrific than that wall of noise to break through.

That reminds me, I'm playing with my old trio in a month or so. Must buy some new earplugs! [/quote]

So happy Playing a blend of swampy, New Orleans style bluesey, jazzy, gospel and country (hey, sounds like one for the genre thread) No more getting het up as to how accurate a version of Summer of 69 we can do!

[quote name='JTUK' post='852492' date='May 31 2010, 11:55 AM']What helps is the drum tune...the gtr rolling off the bass on his amp..and the keys losing the BIG left hand most of the time.
That is the minimum effort required to getting a clean band sound, IMV...but it depends if the players know or adhere to this.[/quote]

Useful info JTUK, thanks. I've had the misfortune previously of playing with two guitarists, where to hear yourself up close you know you're too loud at the back of the hall. Hoping the new, stripped down outfit of vox, keys, bass and drums, with everyone into the idea of not going home from rehearsals/gigs with ears bleeing I can settle on a tone I'm happy with

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='852453' date='May 31 2010, 11:18 AM']That's an interesting idea, Mykesbass. I've got a pre/post eq control on my DI out, so I usually leave it to the engineers. I have a sound that I like on the stage & the other musicians like, so the rest is up to the engineer to sort out, as I send the desk a flat signal. [/quote]

Ah, luxury! But you're playing fairly top end gigs - I'm thinking more about being stuck under the dartboard in a local pub or WMC

OK, hope this isn't construed as hijacking the thread, but how do you guys hear your tone and work out what is best for the room and mix (working on not having a reliable sound engineer or wireless set up and walking out into the audience halfway through the first song)? I know what I like up close and when there's nothing else going on - smooth and mellow, but am always worried I don't have enough punch out front.

OK, just voted for the Squier as I've just got the VM fretless and it would have felt dishonourable to have voted any other way (as I'm really enjoying it and it is such amazing value for money), but, loyalty aside, I think a Japanese re-issue would have to be the one.

Shame when an artist of her calibre doesn't have band credits on her website - I agree, lovely track.

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Here's a picture of a bloke playing bass with a pacemaker:

[url="http://beatles.ncf.ca/cave03.jpg"]http://beatles.ncf.ca/cave03.jpg[/url]

(sorry, had to be done, I'll get me coat)

I'm no expert but this interseted me so had a quick surf - apparently you should avoid magnetic fields greater than 5 gauss - Seymour Duncan pickups are around 25 gauss!

I would check with your consultant - hope all goes well!

Ahhhh! Sunday morning working in my local record shop - The Poet (1 more than 2, but great choice all the same), Teddy Pendergrass, Lou Rawls, or, the sure fire winner, Maze Live in New Orleans - I'm getting all nostalgic now.....

[quote name='teej' post='847882' date='May 25 2010, 08:23 PM']Red Jackson in Brighton...

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Typical - bass solo - cut to pictures of the kids dancing

I've seen you guys there - excellent stuff!

Just played through the version Chris kindly supplied - works a treat. Many thanks.

[quote name='cetera' post='847523' date='May 25 2010, 02:24 PM']I'd personally be a lot happier if people didn't use poor English like "a big ask"....

Just sayin' like.... [/quote]

Probably the best quote on which to bow out of a debate that has gone on far too long and is getting nowhere

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='847496' date='May 25 2010, 01:49 PM']Is it just me that thinks if we'd just get over ourselves, be a bit more relaxed about stuff, and have a bit more of a laugh at each other, the world would be a far less tense, much happier place?

Just wonderin'.[/quote]

Alternatively, is it just me? if we all used a little more consideration and didn't use terms that might cause offense that may have the same effect - didn't seem like a big ask to me.

[quote name='tauzero' post='847414' date='May 25 2010, 12:42 PM']The word "cack" or "keck" (in cack-handed) is an old English word meaning "clumsy". The excremental meaning has been absorbed into the language more recently.[/quote]

cack British informal - noun: excrement, dung. verb - defecate in (one's clothes). Origin Old English as cachus - privy. The verb dates from Late Middle English and is related to Middle Dutch cacken; based on Latin cacare - to defecate.

Cack handed has come to mean clumsy but the origin lies deep in excrement!

Agreed on the Hercules - used to use them when I had a shop - nice and secure and a great release mechanism. Just don't use on Nitro-cellulose finished necks (oh, and they're not great on vintage style tele headstocks if you have any instruments from the dark side)!

OK, now for sale = £7 posted sound reasonable?

Had an SG 2000 30th Anniversary for a while - incredible guitar but just had no use for it. Amazing piece of kit - hardly ever plugged it in, it had so much tone I didn't need to! Hope you enjoy it.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='846960' date='May 24 2010, 10:23 PM']Crusaders. No-one should be made to feel ashamed of the history that forged their culture.[/quote]

Thank goodness for that - I can happilly defend my love for those guys - it was the Jewish, Black, Foundling background I was going to struggle with!

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='846950' date='May 24 2010, 10:12 PM']I'm all for freedom of speech me. I'm not ashamed of your history.[/quote]

We all have lines over which we would rather people didn't cross (as seen on the Ginger thread). When I discovered the origin of the phrase I personally felt it was an insult so chose not to use it. As for my history - which bit?

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='846941' date='May 24 2010, 10:05 PM'][url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=86109&hl=ginger"]If you aren't brown or homosexual, no-one has any sympathy.[/url]

There isn't a link between the beating and the sh1t hand thing. Conformism makes life easier for the majority. The dirty left hand is middle eastern culture with a fairly sensible reasoning behind it, the beating in schools is a Christian thing, being a mark of the devil, as I was hinting at.[/quote]

Probably from the Crusaders then (no, not those cool jazz funk dudes) so all the more reason not to use it!

[quote name='derrenleepoole' post='846820' date='May 24 2010, 08:10 PM']Made me laugh to be honest as I saw the humour in the title straight away, but others may not I guess - but yeah, the term Spaz is quite a lot out of order, but cack handed is hardly offensive, not really... is it?[/quote]

Apparently (at least from the Turkish kids I went to school with 30 years ago) Cack means sh1t. In Middle eastern cultures, the left hand was reserved for wiping one's ar$e, and to offer the left hand to shake hands was a huge insult. Therefore, to call a left hander cack handed I would have thought fairly insulting.

Sorry to seem pious, but when you have heard of the predjudice that left handers have faced - my mum (back in the 30's) was regularly beaten at school to get her to use her right hand then all of a sudden calling it sh1t handed doesn't seem so mild and meaningless after all.

Just reported this as offensive to E-bay. I'm not left handed but to use the term cack handed imho is very offensive, as for the use of the term Spaz, I thought that went out with the likes of Gene Hunt!

[quote name='chris_b' post='846399' date='May 24 2010, 12:01 PM']These are the bass notes. Some of these are root and some are a harmony to the chord ie 4th. This was a quickie, so there may be errors! Verse 2 and second chorus vary slightly. Hutch Hutchinson (bass) adds passing notes in the second verse and stretches out in the last chorus and the outro.

Harping back to some previous BC topics; songs like this are why you need a bass with very good tone and sustain!

Intro:
Eb G | G Eb | Eb D | G C |
Eb G | G Eb | Eb D | C ||

Verse 1:
Eb G | G Eb | Eb D | G C |
Eb G | G Eb | Eb D | G C | 2/4 C |
4/4 F | F D |

Chorus:
Eb Bb | Eb | Eb Bb | D Eb |
G Eb | A G | G Eb | A G |
C | F | Eb Bb | Eb |
1st
Eb G | G Eb | Eb D | C ||

Verse 2:
Same

Chorus:
same
2nd
Rpt Intro

End on Ab[/quote]

Thanks Chris, will work on this tonight - the beauty of this is that he doesn't stick to the chord progression (certainly not the roots). Yes, will test the mettle of both me and my new vmj fretless to see if the sustain holds up!

OK, I know a lot of tab requests on here get met with "listen to the track & work it out for yourself" type comments, well, I've tried and I've failed so I'm asking for help. I'm trying to work out the bass line for "I Can't Make You Love Me" - I've got the intro and verse where the bass is quite distinct, but I just can't hear all of the chorus. Anyone with better ears than me already worked it out?

Thanks,
Mike