WinterMute

Geddy Lee says if you play fast enough it doesn't matter.....

I was at the O2, its a bad room to drive lots of bass into, and if Rush do anything else it's drive the bass, Geddy's sound has the sonic range of most bands all by itself...!!

I watched Prince's FoH sound guy wrestle with the bass during the first gig there a couple of years back, the problem is (according to live sound guys I know who have worked there) that the room is completely different when empty, as the audience are effectively the "walls" of the room. You have to rebalance the whole gig from the top after the crowd arrives. You could hear Rush's sound change quite dramatically as he sought to find the balance, and the band were clearly having monitor issues as well.

Didn't stop them from tearing the bloody roof off and delivering one of the best performances i've seen from them in 20 years, mind. Cracking gig.

Met up with SS73 and his brother, who took my spare tickets, great to meet you guys.

Geddy has some new Custom shop necks on his basses, hence the V logo in some shots and the new pearlescent block markers.


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I had one of those in 1987, cracking rock bass, good luck.

[quote name='JMT3781' post='1075981' date='Jan 3 2011, 01:38 AM']yeah, ive run it through my 1000w bass rig, and it sounded great, not lacking at all. I'm not really desperate for the money.. but as someone with far too many basses that dont get played, it would be silly to start the same trick with keyboards lol..

i dont know, gonna have to AB at some point[/quote]

A/B is the way to go, most emulators sound pretty good, but none sound as good as the original IMO.

If it works for what you're doing, ditch the Moog.

Geddy Lee circa Permanent Waves/Moving Pictures.

Even his modern tone would do to be honest, but I grew up in the shadow of that awesome growl, and I'd love to sound like that.

Don't do anything with the Moog until you've compared the output sound through some serious bass speakers, I'd be really surprised if the Korg emulation comes close in terms of real bottom end response.

No doubting the Korg's capabilities, I have it on my iPad and it's a cracking little unit, but I've yet to find an emulation of anything that holds a candle to the original in audio terms.

None more black...

Godwhacker..!

SD odd lyrics!

Haitian Divorce is fab too.

I tried one when they first came out, sat it on top of an Ampeg 8x10, I didn't really notice a difference...

Ended up using a Hartke Transporter 2x10 with the ally cones, that had some cut to it!

Used them with an 800RB that had a variable x-over built in.

What a beauty, no way I can justify it coming to my house sadly....

Good luck with the sale.

Depending on the players rig, I'll often take a DI from the bass, a DI from the amp's pre-amp output (a lot of amps have a DI output these days) and I'll mic the cab too, the variation that affords in the mix is well worth the effort.

I will always re-align the mic'ed track with the DI tracks, because it'll be slightly late and the phase change will rob you of some LF, just a case of dragging the mic audio forward by a few milliseconds in Protools.

As above, I have a 201 on my VMJ fretless and I did indeed have to shim the neck, the base plate of the Gotoh is just too thick to let the action drop lower.

Followed the excellent "How to shim a neck" guide right here, no probs at all, bass plays like a dream now.

I have Wizard 84's in my Squire VMJ fretless, they are darker than the 64's, more aggressive and tighter in the LF I think.

Thoroughly recommend Wizard pups.

Loving Mike's 'tache in the first clip...!

Never a big fan, but if your gonna slap, might as well slap like a bastard eh?

[quote name='littleal' post='630542' date='Oct 19 2009, 05:24 PM']It reminds me of one that i sold around 5 years ago, the only difference is mine was fretless,[/quote]

Now that's filth.

I had a Wal Pro1 with a black scratchplate, very early but with a later fretless neck, one of the few bases I wish I still had...

Captain, thats a mighty fine looking bass.

<cough> Geddy Lee </cough>

I started out as a singer, picked up bass when we needed a bassist, never thought it was an odd thing to do until we started gigging and lots of people asked "how do you do that?"

If I learn a bassline and then try to learn the vocals I fail big-time, always try to learn both together, so that it becomes second nature to sing along with the line and rhythm, then you can refine both separately.

Then practice. A lot.

[quote name='Rimskidog' post='609201' date='Sep 26 2009, 01:11 PM']No need for it to be in a tom shell. Mount it on a stand[/quote]

mounting it in a shell approximates a cardioid pattern, open backed it's decidedly omni...

I jest, although it does sound a bit tighter in the shell, and it's easier to store.

[quote name='Rimskidog' post='609044' date='Sep 26 2009, 09:25 AM']That's absolutely right. I had a home made job for a long time. I didnt 'buy' a subkick until that one died.[/quote]

Mount any 8 or 10 driver into an old 10" tom-tom shell, stick it on a stand, voila!!

if I get the ability with the gig: Rush, Zep, Gabriel or with Joni for Shadows and Light.

If the ability has to come from me: Leonard Cohen's current tour (although thats probably stretching it a bit...)

Sh*ts and giggles: AC/DC

OK, I think I'm missing something, I have the license on my iLok, but not the plug-in, and I can;t seem to find where the download is, I just get shunted back to the iLok license generator.

Any ideas?


edit: Forget it, I found the DL link...


Thanks for the heads up. :-)

When I went to 5 strings, I sold all my 4 string basses, a Wal Pro 1 fretless, a JD supernatural and a precision, never thought I'd go back.

Well, I sold the Warwick last year and now have a Geddy Lee and a VMJ fretless, I really miss the Wal, and to some extent the others too.

Never say never.

GAS'ing for a Wal fretless or something in that league.

4 strings, 5 strings, 6 strings.... Who cares? It's what you do with it that counts, only having 4 strings never slowed Geddy or Tal down, and Jaco did more with 4 than most will ever do with 5 or 6.

That said, advances in amps and speakers mean that 5 and 6 string basses are perfectly acceptable in more genres these days.

[quote name='Rimskidog' post='601552' date='Sep 17 2009, 06:31 PM']are you running an API then? Which one?[/quote]

Sadly not, we have an Otari Elite, a Raindirk Symphony and a stack of the Audient ASP's which are very decent desks for the little money they charge, we also have Digi C24's and a few Mackie DXB's.

Our main problem (as ever) is financing big desks, I can build a couple of new rooms fully fitted for the price of a decent API.

I've used API desks in pro-land, lovely chunks of kit that they are.

You can see some of our rooms here: [url="http://music.tvu.ac.uk/index.php/virtual-studio-tour.html"]LCM Studios[/url] These are a few yers old now, and we have updated the labs and some of the other rooms, but not the website as yet, we don't have the Sony desks anymore.

[quote name='Rimskidog' post='601139' date='Sep 17 2009, 11:06 AM']Wow! That's huge! Is that a teaching facility of some kind?

Love the Adams. Stuff just translates[/quote]

Yep, its the music tech department of the London College of Music, which is part of Thames Valley University.

We use Dynaudio M1 and BM5a's for near-fields, a few PMC's too, mainly PMC and ATC for mains, I've been meaning to get some Adams in for comparison for a while, Pip Williams lectures with us and he has Adams near-fields, swears by em.

[quote name='Rimskidog' post='600650' date='Sep 16 2009, 07:57 PM']thanks man though I don't use 192s. I have 32 I/o of lynx aurora and a cranesong hedd on the mixbus

midfields are Adam s3a. Mains are dynaudio m3s[/quote]

Good choices all round there!

We're stuck with 192's as we have a job lot from Digi, we have 14 HD rigs and 24 studio rooms, I can't afford to even begin thinking about changing the I/O...!

How are you getting on with the Adams?

[quote name='molan' post='600826' date='Sep 16 2009, 10:27 PM']Go for the box set - it's always my 'reserve' on the iPod playlist whenever I can't think what else to listen to [/quote]

A friend of mine at Uni in the 80's was a big Dan fan, I was a total Rush head at the time and there were often audio duels in the corridor between Signals/Permanent Waves and whatever overcomplicated bilgewater Fagan had produced at the time (spot the irony).

Oddly I bought the double Greatest Hits compilation (Kids something?) at a boot sale and I'm happy to say much of it made perfect sense this time. Ewen, you weren't the deaf uncultured Welsh bugger I thought you were mate, sorry about that.

Now playing Everything Must Go.