WinterMute

That EAD does like nice doesn't it...?

I've just taken delivery of a Barefaced Big Twin T, it is an extraordinarily capable bit of kit, 2x12, 6" mid and tweeter, with variable volume for the tweeter and a pad for the mid too if you need it.

Not cheap, but you know what your going to get with Alex's work.

I looked at the fEARful, but it's hard to judge what you'll end up with without a dedicated builder.

If the Twin is too big, try the Big Baby, one less 12 driver.

Take a look at the Barefaced Midget T, very light, as loud as most 2x10's (allegedly...) and very cute. Throw Alex an email on the site, he can advise better than I.

I've just replaced the need for an 8x10 with a Big Twin I can lift with one hand...!

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Should work well with your Orange.




Sorry just realised this might be out of your price range, ignore me as appropriate...!

[quote name='dincz' timestamp='1353932674' post='1879806']


To be fair to Behringer, they do list both RMS and peak power figures - at least for their power amps, but not for guitar/bass amps.
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There's an awful lot of info about the Behringers out there, I did quite a lot of research before choosing to the Crown (duh, wasn't much of a choice frankly when the XTi came up on eBay) and the quoted output figures are way too high for the actual power present.

They are still cheap, light and loud however, the iNuke 3000 and 6000 being very capable. I'm just not sure how well they'd last.

My rig is now listed below, the amp and pod are in an ABS rack case, it's a one hand lift, the cab is on wheels and I can lift it with one hand, but I don't have bad back...!

It's the biggest cab Barefaced currently offer, so a couple of the smaller ones would suit. This is a 1400w monster rig that weighs less than my old 2x10 Line 6 combo...

I'd go separates for the quality, and you're not then limited to a few underperforming combos.

I have a crown XTi1000, got it off ebay for £250.... 1400w bridged into mono.

The Behringers are a good bet if you can get over the name and the fact they weigh nothing, just don't trust the posted number on their outputs.

I'm pretty sure Alex has Hifi on his mind if he has spare time, which he doesn't from the look of it...

That man has a lot of work on for a small business.

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1353709393' post='1877831']
Aha. I do live near Brighton. Shame that they don't have a demo room though.
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They don't have very much room at all...! Truly a micro industry, but what products...!


[quote name='sifi2112' timestamp='1353700394' post='1877711']
Great looking rig, congrats , might have to pick your brains at some point regarding POD for recording as I've got an HD bean (guitar) but still need Mac (pc)
Is that like my S12T but with 3012LF's & a midrange ?[/quote]

I thought the woofers were the same Eminence units in both boxes tbh, could be wrong... Its got a 6" midrange and a complex crossover arrangement, it goes lower and louder than the Super 12 as the woofers don't have to do so much of the work int he midrange. The articulation in the mids and HF is really something to hear.... I haven't finished running it in yet, 25hz for 2 hours was all I could take tonight, more over the weekend though.

I've been using the pods in studios for a long time, I'm a recording engineer by trade, and I'm very familiar with the architecture.

I've always managed to get great sounds when recording myself and other bassists, and I figured I should just apply the same approach to live. All that was missing was a speaker system capable of amplifying the range of tones I need to gig levels, which is where Alex's designs come in...

Bob: the pod XT is a huge box of tones, it's just not very user friendly, the MacBook on the top is running a graphic editor, but you still need to understand signal flow, EQ, compression, time domain FX... I think that's what keeps them for being more acceptable to most bassists.

The Crown is just a PA amp, it delivers 1400 watts into 4 Ohms which is precisely what the Big Twin is rated for.

Fretmeister: Presets? What are those....?

[quote name='bremen' timestamp='1353662359' post='1877016']
Which is your favourite Iain Banks?

Mine's Espedair Street :-)
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I'm a M Banks fan generally, favourite is probably Use of Weapons, I should have been Zakalwe....

I really liked Complicity and Crow Road.

This is posted over in Amps and Cabs too, hope thats ok...

Love my new rig.

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So I dropped into the Barefaced workshop this morning to pick up my new Big Twin T, had a good chat with Alex and left with a boot full of new cab.

Had to wait till I got home to connect it up, and as it's a little late, I thought my neighbours might not appreciate 1400 watts flat out...!

The rig is now a Pod XT Pro into a Crown XTi1000 bridged into mono into the Big Twin, the bass is a Tony Levin OLP with a Bart pup and pre-amp.

Can't really comment on the sound as I could only run it very quietly, and I want to soak it with the 25hz signal for a while before I crank it up.

I'll report back once it's been used in anger, but I have to say I have no quibbles about the finish, the cab is unbelievably light and Alex's customer service is excellent.

Not sure what MX might be, I've been using the tag for years, mainly on Apple forums though...

I looked at a whole bunch of stuff before going with Barefaced, the combination of size, weight, pure output and tonality looks very hard to beat if you can afford the price. I'll let you know once I've had a chance to fire the cab up. Alex puts his money where his mouth is with the one month money back deal, he's absolutely certain they can build you a cab that does what you want.

The Fearful designs look good, but you'd need to find a builder you trust.

I run a Pod XT pro into a Crown XTi1000, and I'm hopefully picking up my Barefaced Big Twin T next week, it's nearly finished...!

I'm doing pretty much what you are doing and I chose the Big Twin T because its effectively designed to act as a large bass orientated monitor speaker, the Pods are then driving the whole sound and the cab simply amplifies the signal to gig levels, the Barefaced cabs are light, very loud but they certainly ain't cheap. The fEARful designs are working on a similar idea, but Barefaced are in Brighton.

Do yourself a favour and discuss your needs with Alex on [email protected] and check out their line at http://www.barefacedbass.com.

I prefer Gabriels solo work and post Gabriel Genesis, "And then there were three" being truly frightening in places at volume.

I have a Tony Levin OLP, it's an extraordinarily good bass for the £200 that it cost, even accounting for the Bart pup and pre-amp I've put in.

Flamed maple top, matching headstock, light, good tone and a decent B string. Some are the suspicious orange colour of Levin's original SR5, but some are natural... The pickguard i a bit shabby, and it's next on the list to change.

If you can find one, get it.

Bump for price drop...

Bump, heading for ebay at the end of the week...

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1351157456' post='1847950']
Don't bumblebees gain the extra lift, that simplistic calculation said was unavailable from their wing size and reciprocations per minute, through the creation of a vortex which generates extra lift compared to how a bird wing works? Usually when scientific theory differs from reality it's because the science is incomplete!
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Who said "one man's science is another man's belly laugh..."?

[quote name='fatback' timestamp='1351081598' post='1847027']
Honestly, a strip or two of auralex foam cures stage boom. Not at a subtle change either, a dramatic improvement.

As for the er... debate above, I have no idea.
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Many people report significant improvement for boomy stage and rooms by using such devices, wether they be the overpriced Auralex offerings or a couple of bits of packing foam, so there is, demonstrably, an effect that players like.

The Auralex GRAMMA is rated for 300lb I believe, so is good for an 8x10, I'm not sure I'd want to put an 8x10 on bits of foam that weren't up to the job.

Several people have made their own versions, Auralex foam isn't cheap, so I reckon the discounts that are out there make it worthwhile.

I'm certainly going to be looking at either the GRAMMA or the Iso-tilt once it arrive.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1248965112' post='556258']
Personally though I don't see much value in bass amp modelling in live situations as you're almost always going to be limited by the loudspeaker cabinet performance.
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Should I be worried about the capabilities of your Big Twin T then Alex...?

I currently have the LD400 Pro combo, which is for sale (plug, plug), and I have the Pod XT Pro rack which I'm going to be using with a Barefaced Big Twin T when Alex's guys can tear themselves away from FiFA 2012....!

Unlike Alex I do see the point of modelling live, provided you abandon spurious thoughts of "authenticity", I find the Line 6 bass kit to be good both in flexibility and in tone, but you do need to spend some time getting away from the factory presets and finding your own sound. I deliberately chose the Big Twin T as I intend to use it like a very loud studio monitor, to simply amplify the output of the Pod XT to gig levels. The Pod XT is a great studio tool, providing a huge range of tones, and I intend to make use of that flexibility in the live situation.

The models are generally pretty good, particularly the Ampeg and Marshall models, and can yield some very useable sounds. The combo is certainly loud enough to cope with a loud drummer, moreso with an extension cab, but the limitation is the speaker cab, which doesn't handle high volume as well as a very expensive cab would, however at the price you can grab one for they are useable, loud and flexible. Studio wise the DI output with the modelling is very useful. If you don't expect it to sound exactly like an SVT/8x10 rig, you'll find that it sounds close enough for rock n roll.

As ever, it's not the kit you own, it's what you do with it that counts. We all know the guy with £1000's in kit who sounds crap and the other guy with the scraped together rig who sounds great.

It's not just a tilt back device, it isolates the cab from the floor, which is a good thing on hollow boomy stages and helps you sound remain your sound in bad acoustic conditions, check out the Auralex GRAMMA pad, not a tilt device just a de-coupler, Alex's plan is to provide the de-coupleing effect with a handy tilt-back.

Monday morning bump, where's me coffee?

[quote name='funky8884' timestamp='1350806949' post='1843572']
In one of my emails to Alex asking about a Barefaced Cab solution he mentioned an ''IsoTilt wedge''.
Has anyone out there got one / used one ?
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Alex told me he needed to get to see a supplier for the foam I think, anyway, they aren't available as yet. Auralex GRAMMA is your best bet.