12stringbassist

Lovely. The Chapparall weighs less than the regular B12 that I own.

On 02/08/2025 at 19:40, itu said:

@Basvarken: what's the order of the strings? If I remember an old article right, playing with a pick or fingers defies the order. Is this true? With pick the downstroke hits the lowest first, and with fingers it's the other way around, yes/no? 

Downstrokes with a pick get the very best out of a 12er when the drones are uppermost.
Fingerstyle tends to / can be muddy. It loses the attack and clarity, but then again you do get a nice thick sound.

Basses with the fundamental bass string on top are awkward, as you may not hit the drone strings when playing.

A jam night PA playlist

Done.

We did two this weekend, both with good crowds and we played out of our skins - it's renewed my enthusiasm a bit.

https://www.facebook.com/TheThreeJamNights/videos/736911299505562

Reporting them to the Fire Service sounds like a plan.
Best avoided.

We played in Leigh, Lancs last night, to a nice crowd, with a friend sitting in as our dep drummer who did really well.

I'm getting back into the swing of gigging again after an enforced absence due to our old guitarist suddenly opting out. Our drummer has also had some spinal surgery and is going to be out of the game for a while. It does feel a little like the band is limping along, using dep drummers, but it is better than not playing at all. The playing is really enjoyable, but it doesn't feel like the same band. Not entirely a bad thing. Our guitarist has learned a good number of songs and he has done a fine job. We can't really advance the setlist that much until our regular drummer is fit to play again. It will happen, though. He's bought an upgraded electric kit to make it easier for him to transport. It's just a case of persevering at the moment. We are winning at gigs, which is the point.

My rig is raised off the floor here as the place is a bass trap. One particular note can hang around all night like a bad smell.

It's been a while since I've been able to post in this topic, as our old guitarist opted out at the beginning of May.
It's been cancellations, auditions and just a couple of rehearsals since then. I think we've got the right new guy.

I was slightly nervous in the run up to last night's first gig, as we didn't manage to rehearse this week as our drummer has been taken into hospital for urgent surgery. He's going to be out of the game for a while. A good friend of ours is going to sit in on drums for a while when he can and I am meeting another drummer this evening, when we play another gig (and he's on drums).

We're deviating from usual set to a degree, as our new guitarist has some songs he's pretty good at, so to get a set together, and to change things a bit (the old band was a bit of a museum, as we couldn't add new songs without a distinct lack of enthusiasm from one corner of the room). We've pulled the best set together of crowd pleasers that we can .

There were a couple of hairy moments, but the punters didn't notice.
The good news for us is that we are back doing it and enjoying it.

I'll take any instrument I own to a gig, as that's what I bought them for.
I don't let people get near them unless I know them, and not always then.
I will fend off people saying 'Can I have a go?' as a matter of course.

I watched Supergrass do a really good set and struggle for any reaction.

What appears to be wrong with festivals like this now is that there is a mad scramble for tickets months and months before the acts are announced, because there is this huge things about being seen there and saying you've been. It's hardly about the actual music anymore and fans of the bands concerned rarely get tickets to see them.

The only bands guaranteed to go down well are 'the legends' and any with suitable hype behind them.
 

Chase have still got the HiWatts in stock.

Sparks.

Full report and videos at http://www.crazeeworld.plus.com/ian/reviews/2025.06.22.sparks.htm

17 hours ago, chris_b said:

 

Deps are not a negative scenario. Deps make gigging more flexible. Pick the right deps and you can have a lot of fun.

 

You don't give your band members much credit for their ability to learn sets for 2 bands.

 

You don't want band members to be in multiple bands, I get it, but your whole outlook on the subject is very negative.

Just my experience - as valid as any other. I've said how it CAN work and what the drawbacks are.

It only works when the people who run two bands can pull the others in when required and those other people are doing nothing else.

As a person who prefers to have one band and nothing else, I have always found that if someone is in two bands, their availability is compromised and so is their attention span and ability to absorb and devote time to learning new material. It very rarely works and there is always going to be conflicts over which band gets first dibs on dates. It's just a nightmare.

The people who elect to be in two bands (but don't run diaries) always think they can make it work. They of course, are not the ones tearing their hair out over broken gig schedules and aren't the ones going back to venues saying 'oh I'm sorry, x is suddenly not available'.

At best, they are a matter of personal taste and merely something to skim over and not take seriously.
They also suffer from the critics trying to be pseudo-intellectual and nominating unlistenable obscure people to show off how hip they are in choosing these people.

If I listed my top 5 guitarists, people would disagree. I rarely bite when topics about 'best' players come up.
Favourites maybe... best what's the point?

The walls of Gibson and Fenders with no price tags (for legitimate price shift reasons) were off-putting to a small degree.
Of course you have to have the stuff in to sell it, but then again the store has to pay for it to stock it. The major companies insistence on stores stocking whole ranges in the past has led to stores dropping the make.

Going in to drool over and Elite / Deluxe megabucks P bass is all very well, but the shop had to shift them, otherwise it was just all debt and dusting. The 'starter range' gear is useful to a limited number of people and as some say, it's seemingly a decreasing market. There was so much stock that never shifted.

The rise of online shopping is disappointing because there's nothing better than trying stuff then buying it.
The loss of PMT means Manchester doesn't have a lot of options left for buyers.

We auditioned our new guitarist on the 2nd (playing 4 songs).
Got another 6 off at the next jam night on the 9th.
Rehearsed two sets worth of songs last night. Yes, we are having to go for some 'quick wins', but we are out again in July.
This is one of them.
 

We've found our man.

My footage...
 

Zak says:
"I was fired two weeks after reinstatement and asked to make a statement saying I had quit the who to pursue my other musical endevours this would be a lie. I love the who and would never had quit. So I didn’t make the statement ….quitting the who would also have let down the countless amazing people who stood up for me (thank you all a million times over and more) thru the weeks of mayhem of me going ‘in an out an in an out an in an out like a bleedin squeezebox x To clarify ‘other projects’ yes I do have other projects and always have. The Who have been sporadic or minimalist in touring most years apart from a two extensive tours in 2000 and 2006/7
 

To be precise while I was in the who 1996-1999 I had other projects with Johnny Marr, Lightning Seeds and Mike Scott.

2000-2003 Johnny Marr and The Healers opening for oasis in Europe releasing album and 6 month world tour 2004-2008 Oasis 2 studio albums and 120live shows. 2006-2017 Pengu!Ns , Sshh touring internationally. Releasing 3 singles, Kasabian bbc proms 2007 Weller Coxon Starkey Mani.
 

2015 Hollywood Vampires Roxy LA shows and rock in Rio 2017-2020 Trojan Jamaica record label releasing three albums and winning Grammy for best reggae album 2020
 

2020 Peter Green Tribute Concert . As u see there has always been time for other projects … 2022-2025/now mantra of the cosmos with Shaun Ryder Bez Andy Bell and NG. Releasing singles but not touring cos members are so busy. None of this has ever interfered with The Who and was never a problem for them . The lie is or would have been that I quit the who- i didn’t. I love the who and everyone in it."

On 12/05/2025 at 08:47, triplebass said:

So facts... it was a custom build, but still there's a bit of weirdness... it turns out the pickup maker did not know his product would end up in a 5 string bass.

Why would the luthier of the bass knowingly install something that is not going to do the job??

 

If i were in your situation, I would just be asking the maker nicely if they could offer help to get the right 5 string pickup to put into your bass. It's satisfied the original buyer, so they did their job. It'snot the maker's fault that you are unhappy with the bass (though it may indeed be an error on their part that makes it sound wrong to you).

12 is the limit for me.
The neck tension would be incredible on a bass with 3 courses of strings.