TimR

[quote name='The Jaywalker' timestamp='1510220551' post='3404666'] Ah! So the jokers I described above, "playing with passion" etc are somehow creating art by murdering 2-bit pop tunes...whereas the music and performances of Mahler, Debussy, Stravinsky, Ellington, Gil Evans etc are merely an academic exercise.... Erm, no. [/quote] The jokers you described above had the dance floor full and were enjoying themselves. As do musicians performing to an academic exercise for the money. Neither is right nor wrong. One is cheese, one is an assault on ‘trained’ musicians ears. There’s an awful lot of snobbery and inverted snobbery amongst musicians. I just think we should call it for what it is. I’m just trying to identify what ‘cheese’ is to me. It’s fairly cringeworthy, just as listening to the former band is to people ‘in the know’. I learned a long time ago just to go with the flow when listening to a band. If they’ve got the dance floor full, it’s pointless to sit there grumbling that the brass section is playing legato when the original is staccato. It’ll just chew you up and ruin your night.

No. It’s nothing to do with the energy on stage or reading the music. I’m not jealous, I’ve played in theatre pits and at brass band competitions. The playing of music is reduced from an art form to an academic exercise where the aim is to play the music exactly as written. It’s the cruise ship, holiday camp, theatreland, working mans club ‘cheese’ that they chuck out of XFactor for no musical reason other than it’s cheese. This is the type of music and band they want for society weddings and corporate events. People love it and pay big money but it’s just not for me. A case in point. I was at Butlins once where a heavy rock band where playing in the nightclub. Very good band, actually too good, note perfect solos, Drummer right on the beat but no feel, something wasn’t quite right. Then I spotted it: no tattoos, looking closer they were all wearing wigs and I realised it was the same house band that has been playing Agadoo to the kids in the ballroom 30mins earlier. That’s what I’m thinking about when I think cheese.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1510179653' post='3404552'] There's value and hard work behind both types of bands. Respect to both. Blue [/quote] There is. And there’s a bigger market for the first type and people will pay more. Cheese sells very well.

[quote name='pfretrock' timestamp='1510174540' post='3404524'] This is not relevant if you are measuring a cable isolated from a passive bass as you have removed the pickup inductance from the circuit. The high frequency cut off is dominated by the large pickup inductance and the pots and tone cap which forms a low pass filter. The cable would contribute to the low pass point, but it may also resonate with the inductance and produce a peak below the cut off point, which would accentuate frequencies at this point. If the cable capacitance is very low, this resonance is above the cut off point and is negligible. It usually is for a bass and good low capacitance cable. Yes! [/quote] I agree, except that the bass and controls would be constant for all cables. The only variable is the cable. Attaching the bass and amplifier would tell you how the system changes but doesn’t tell you anything about the cable.

All coaxial (guitar) cable has capacitance. This will attenuate high frequencies. The lower the capacitance the higher the frequency cut off. The cable effectively acts as a low pass filter. To measure the attenuation you need a frequency generator and a scope. Measure the amplitude of the frequency at one end of the cable and at the other end simultaneously and increase the frequency. You’ll see the amplitude drop as the frequency rises. Cheaper cable will have more attenuation at lower frequencies. The crux is where the frequncy cut off is and whether you can actually detect it.

[quote name='roceci' timestamp='1510165192' post='3404435'] There are a whole bunch of wedding bands in the middle of your binary. We play a lot of the soul/funk standards but we rearrange some, always keep a rocked-up edge & I for one never copy a recorded bass line unless it's the signature part of the song. We play with tons of passion, even on the numbers we don't screw around with. I play in originals outfits too & it's a different kind of fun but they're both about equal. I guess in my world it ain't so black & white, & I like that. [/quote] Yes. Some bands are less cheesy.

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1510067268' post='3403689'] I'd' just direct them to the Alive network website and let them go through the bands on there. One man's cheese is another man's entertainment. [/quote] Quite. I just can’t stand that corporate stamped out function band. Usually made up of professional musicians on rotation, playing note perfect renditions and dressed in whatever uniform the band leader has chosen. Awful. Total cheese, regardless of the tunes chosen. Give me a band playing with passion, that have obviously been playing together for years, playing their own versions of a mix of tunes across the decades. Awesome.

6 hours for a party is pretty standard. You don’t want to be setting up while guests are arriving and you certainly don’t want to be packing down before the party officially ends. Ideally you’ll be playing right to the end anyway. At any gig, you should have a policy that the stage is out of bounds to punters and that one member of the band is within eyesight of all the gear at all times.

[quote name='DorsetBlue' timestamp='1509984266' post='3403025'] ... Wedding Anniversary ... [/quote]

Well, anyone using electronics that’s 30 years old and expecting it to be reliable has another thing coming.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1509959454' post='3402793'] You seem very sure about that. I'm sorry to tell you that you're not always right - you consistently post opinion as fact. It's irritating. [/quote] I apologise for irritating you. You do have a choice not to be irritated, it’s all in your mind. You are telling me someone is going to spend £7k and then gig that unreliable effects unit? They’re £140 new for the vintage 70s one. The latest model is under £80.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1509920377' post='3402669'] Me neither. Do people think that if they buy a bass (for example) that was owned by a famous bass player that they will somehow, by osmosis, suddenly be able to play and sound like said player and instantly enjoy the fame and success of that player? Or what..? Buying a phase pedal previously owned by [ROCK STAR] at an extortionate price isn't going to help you record and produce a million-selling album, is it? Unless you were on your way to recording such an album anyway, of course... Anyway, I like Behringer pedals. They're nineteen quid. [/quote] Not at all. These are bought by collectors who prize them for their rarity and as a piece of history. It’s unlikely they’ll ever be used.

It’s no different to people buying gold or diamonds. The value is in the rarity. It’s the effect of supply and demand in a totally inelastic supply market. If a few rich people want something they’ll pay whatever the market will stand.

I’ve got a pair of 211 pros. Decent kit.

I bend mine up to make them sharp and down to make them flat.

A terrible situation. How dare they? Whatever next? Members of the audience suggesting tunes?

[quote name='petebassist' timestamp='1507901909' post='3388699'] I think you need a dictatorship not a democracy when it comes to covers bands - I think it's best left to the singer to choose songs, and that usually keeps the focus. If every member tries to choose songs, you can end up in endless discussions and disagreements. I doubt every band member loves every track & you could always start up your own band on the side to play other stuff. [/quote] Definitely, with the proviso that the singer sticks to the brief. Otherwise you'll end up as a <insert singer's hero here> tribute band.

Maybe you need to discuss it properly with the band. I'd avoid heavy metal (like Ace of Spades) for pubs. I'm not sure you can separate classic rock between post and pre Punk. Classic Rock is Classic Rock. If you want to keep it more modern then you should stick to your guns, there's too many pub bands playing prepunk classic rock. However, there are certain 90s and 00s tunes that are very overplayed but go down well with audiences. It's a bit of a minefield. You need to be flexible but also need to steer the band in a certain direction as otherwise the others will drift aimlessly with random song choices. Maybe try and chose 10 songs from each decade from 70s on. That's should give you a good balance.

Some interesting tests here. http://youtu.be/6SbrY4v7Kxk

[quote name='T&#045;Bay' timestamp='1507740812' post='3387650'] I have had the pleasure of seeing the testing ground at MIRA in action, the test the drivers hate most is the kerb test where they drive at a kerb which is about 9" high at around 50mph (I think, could be anywhere from 40-60mph) and 45degrees to the direction of travel. It's a properly brutal test. [/quote] Sounds brutal. What happens if the wheel and suspension fold up into the passenger compartment. Very messy!

My wife saw a car clip a curb and overturn right in front of her last week. They were going aproxomatly 30mph.

Swap phone numbers and do the deal on the phone. If someone else becomes interested, tell both that there is someone else interested. Keep both informed of the highest offer and give them the opportunity to raise or give a final offer. If time is of the essence then let them know that, and tell them when you need a descision to be made by. Job done. Someone who says they've got to check with their Mrs first, should have checked with their Mrs first before calling you. 24hours is long enough to wait. If they've not replied, I wouldn't chase them. .

No. As I said above the nominal impedance is only nominal. Between 30hz and about 10khz the impedance will be higher. Typically an 8ohm speaker might be around 32ohms across the mid range frequencies. He says he's developed a crossover and if there's a loom that fits existing cabs then he is using his standard drivers. Might be splitting the very low frequencies between the drivers via the crossover. .

I'd be more concerned that they don't actually deliver their chocolates by dropping men from helicopters and via speedboats as is clearly shown in their advertising. It's very misleading.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1507125878' post='3383488'] . . . . and people are posting like they know more about this stuff than Alex does! Jeeez! [/quote] Can't see anyone who has done that. Alex's post on Facebook says it's 'Magic' which seems a dubious claim to me.