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Short songs that jump straight into the hook/chorus and fit in with popular playlist choices (e.g. 'relaxing work music', 'gym music', 'house party') are apparently a good way to go if you want streams.

But then again, you don't get much money from streams so I wouldn't bother too much myself if money was my aim  - other than using it a means to promote yourself (like radio) and then make money through merchandise or live gigs or getting your music licensed for games or tv.

I'd try and go with management/small record label that put expertise into promo/marketing, or Bandcamp and social media of you want to try and make money directly through selling music. 

On 08/12/2023 at 16:08, Lozz196 said:

A true classic!!

It is a good'un isn't it.

Can quite convincingly sound like a chorus, or an extreme/stuttering tremolo, or a bit like a cocked wah, momentary works well for quickly on/off/on/off flanging of a sustained note, and tap tempo can be used quite creatively. 

Boss Flanger BF-3 

A couple of small scrapes but in otherwise good condition and perfect working order. With original box. 

£75 £65 +£5 postage via recorded delivery. 

RIP

Boss Waza Air Bass (some went for £200 on here a while ago, that's a bit of a bargain though, they are about £350 new).

I don't get on with Basses that are too heavy, or with tight string spacing. And phallic looking horns are a turn off! 

Reduced again: £560

It's either this goes or my new Jazz Bass does, and the Jazz is a better fit for the current band I'm in. I think £560 is about as low as I should go on this though - the going rate second hand online seems to be more like £800.

Fender Jazz USA 2009. Sunburst + Tort + Rosewood. 3.9kg. With Fender gigbag. £850.

This is a really good condition 2009 USA Jazz Bass, aside from a few light dimples/scrapes it's almost showroom condition.

Lightweight (3.9kg according to my scales, 3.8kg/8.7lbs according to Bass Direct).

With a Fender Tweed gigbag.

TI Flats, and Schaller S Locks fitted.

Collection from Chichester, or I'm in London a couple of days a week for work. Or could arrange courier (it doesn't have hard case though). 

See Bass Direct for their professional photos: https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/product/2009-fender-american-standard-jazz-bass-3-tone-sunburst-pre-owned/ 

1 hour ago, pn_day said:

Bargain. If this was a fretless I'd be in trouble!

 

Give it a bash! 😃

J.Bs 'The Grunt'

Great Bass sound from Bootsy.

I might be proved wrong (usually am!) but I expect these sort of things will get more popular for a few years and then the novelty will wear off - like 3D cinema. Or, there have been concert films for ages but it's never really become much of a thing to go to the cinema to watch them.

It looks great with the GK-5 (does then cost about £1k though!). Assigning different sounds to each string  (and each range of notes on a string) is a great party piece - especially to turn your Bass into a drum kit. And being able to trigger other synths opens it up to make just about any sound. 

.....but yeah, latency/tracking low is an issue. If Nate's playing (with a mute) can get 'a little inaccurate' and needed 'many performance takes to get the tracking just right' then there isn't much hope for me!

I kind of feel that £1k and perfecting a different playing technique could be better money/time spent by playing a keyboard (you can get a great synth keyboard for £1k). Also, tracking aside, a keyboard is always going to also be a more practical way of playing in a piano/synth style of playing multiple notes at the same time with both hands, having things like pitch wheel, accessible controls to change parameters etc. I love the idea of playing synth via Bass, and love synth Bass sounds, but I dunno - I think it's something that a keyboard is always going to be better at, in the same way that playing a keyboard to sound like a Bass guitar is never quite as good as playing a Bass guitar.

On 04/10/2023 at 13:22, borntohang said:

Jacks/Tiny Tone are good. I got my custom Jazz guard there which I'm gratified to see is on their example page...

 

Nice!

One of the things I prefer about Precision vs Jazz is their one-piece pieckguard/control panel - it seems a nicer design to me than the usual Jazz thing with a seperate chrome control panel and different pickguard. 

Without going the custom Tiny Tone route (which would be good, but being custom I guess gets expensive), does anyone know where I can get a one-piece plastic one just off the shelf? Something like this to go with my USA Sunburst Jazz:

It seems Fender produced them for a while in the 80s and 90s https://www.talkbass.com/threads/fender-jazz-bass-with-a-one-piece-pickguard-american-traditional-90s-mim-etc.857688/

Reduced to £580.

13 hours ago, Dan Dare said:

 

It'd be more accurate to say that b/s evolves. All this "genre" tripe is invented by music journo's who can't play but are desperate to carve out a career in music and make it appear that they know something. Judgemental? Dismissive? Me? You bet.

 

I'm not sure about that, it's what people like to say, along with 'I'm not into genres, just good music'. Yeah, everyone likes what they personally think is good music, that kind of goes without saying - but it's subjective and it's like saying  'I like good food', you'll still often want to know if you're going to get pizza or a curry  - and what type of curry, and you'll probably have some food you generally prefer over others. Catagorising food, or music, or films, or books, or styles of art etc. is useful to the consumer.

I don't thing it's generally b/s made up by music journo's for their own benefit, or even by artists/labels for thir own benefit.  Reggae (a name made up by an artist), has sub-genres and offshoot like 'lovers rock' (named after a record label), 'dub' (named after recording technique or dubplates), '2 tone' (record label) etc....I don't think they set out thinking 'I'll make up a new genre name' they were just making something slightly original/different and so it naturally gets called something different as a useful way to communicate the sound, it is just how music evolves.  

4 hours ago, Shaggy said:

Having recently taken the decision to step down from 46 years of gigging, but looking for a bit of a hobby project to play with other musicians, I occasionally look at the JMB ads.   Have to say I’m entirely bemused by most of the genres mentioned; shoegaze, post hardcore, alt country, sludge metal, etc. etc    

Whatever happened to mods and rockers?    All this were fields when I were a lad, y’know......🤔

 

Those genres have been around for most of your gigging years though!

'I just like good music' is all well and good, but there are over 100 million songs on Spotify alone (about 600 years of constant listening) and 60,000 songs added to it every day, so you need some way of focussing in on finding what you want to hear and genres/sub-genres are a reasonably simple way to do it.

Even if we were limited to a few genres like folk, rock, pop, country, blues (it'd be a boring world if we were!), Country alone has been sub-catagorised into long list of sub-genres (at least according to Wikipidia).  

• Alternative country
• Americana
• Cowpunk/Country-punk
• Gothic country
• Roots rock
• Australian country music
• Bush band
• Bakersfield sound
• Bluegrass
• Old-time bluegrass/Appalachian bluegrass
• Traditional bluegrass/Neo-Traditional bluegrass
• Progressive bluegrass/Nu-grass
• Bluegrass gospel
• Bro-country
• Canadian country music
• Christian country music
• Classic country
• Coastal Country
• Country and Irish
• Country blues
• Country en Español
• Country folk
• Country pop/Cosmopolitan country
• Country rap/Hick-hop
• Country EDM
• Country rock
• Cowboy pop
• Cowboy/Western music
• Dansband music
• Franco-country
• Gulf and western
• Hokum
• Honky tonk music
• Instrumental country
• Lubbock sound
• Nashville sound
• Countrypolitan
• Neotraditional country
• New country
• Old-time music
• Outlaw country
• Progressive country
• Rockabilly/Neo-Rockabilly
• Psychobilly/Punkabilly
• Gothabilly/Hellbilly
• Southern rock
• Southern soul
• Sertanejo music
• Talking blues
• Traditional Country music
• Truck-driving country
• Cowboy/Western music
• New Mexico music
• Red dirt
• Tex-Mex/Tejano
• Texas country
• Progressive country
• Western swing

Phonk and Bronx Drill are just a sub-genres of Hip-Hop, partly characterised by location and sound/lyrical themes (Phonk uses choped beats, Drill tends to be dark with street/gang lyrics), the sub-catagories are probably quite uesful for people really into that music.

Chris has just bought a pedalboard from me and as with our previous dealings all was good. Thanks!

I've bought a Bass frem Clarky and all was good- as described, good comms and meeting etc. And cheers for the lift!

There's a lot of different lyrical themes, love and heartbreak are what trend to sell pop records though.

Reggae: Being a rasta, fighting injustice, weed. 

Hip Hop: Making money, being the greatest. 

Punk: Fighting the government/system. 

Stoner/Doom: Weed, evil/menacing stuff ending the world. 

Death metal: Horror. 

Funk: Getting on up/down. 

I reckon the sound is mostly about where the pickups are placed. And of course, fairy tone spirits. 

I think engineers liked P Basses partly as there's less hum (which could be particularly bad in a studio full of wires etc). And they have a more predictable sound. If someone gets to the studio with a Jazz, perhaps they'll go for more bridge or neck pickup than the previous session musician, causing more work for the engineer for it to fit with the studio drums etc. than if it was only P Basses that ever got used. 

As far as flexibility, P Basses are the go-to for Soul/Motown and Punk. But I think the Jazz Bass is arguably more versatile, being more of the go-to for genres like Reggae, Funk, Fusion. 

1 hour ago, GuyR said:

The very unusual 1979 CF Martin they has just come up in the basses for sale page would be an excellent choice

Thanks....that has got me thinking! If nothing else, it's guaranteed to get Bass players asking what it is. 

I know it seems petty, but I bet it weighs a lot. (As seems to be the style at the time! Heavy = Quality). 

1979. Doesn't seem the best year for Basses, unless you like them heavy!

I'd probably go for a Ramones/Clash style white P Bass. 

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