bumfrog

awesome stuff people, many thanks. Interestingly enough, similar to dom - there's quite a nice ibanez acoustic in the house, but it's the cheap crappy stagg that's way louder and punchy.

[quote name='D-L-B' post='861133' date='Jun 8 2010, 03:50 PM']You do know it is in your best interests to play the best night possible? Whether it's organised by yourself or a promoter.[/quote] It's not always possible to play "the best nights" as some people have other ties than a band. [quote name='D-L-B' post='861133' date='Jun 8 2010, 03:50 PM']From what I can gather, you're a lazy person or you only play gigs for lazy promoters? [/quote] no, you were asking why people play gigs like that and I was telling you why. from what you gather? you've decided to make a massive assumption about me even though you don't know me from adam??? I hope you don't do this everybody because I find it quite offensive when people make assumptions about people they know nothing about. Sorry for being shirty but it's a personal bug bear of mine given that I organise a lot of gigs, put up my own equipment as backline to try and get things up and running and the apathy that I get from both punters and bands alike is astounding, then come on here to be told I'm lazy! I really don't get some people on here sometimes.

[quote name='D-L-B' post='861120' date='Jun 8 2010, 03:42 PM']simple maths really, the profit being skimmed by the promoter doesn't need to be deducted.[/quote] eh?? I think you're still missing the point.... the simple maths is if you hire a place yourself and can't cover the costs of hiring it then you're out of pocket. If you play a gig for a promoter, you may not get any money for playing, but you won't be out of pocket. Admittedly it can work the other way, but there's a lot of lazy people out there not willing to risk taking the hit.

[quote name='D-L-B' post='861115' date='Jun 8 2010, 03:38 PM']By removing the 'promoter' and running an equivalent event yourself this shouldn't be an issue.[/quote] what the fact that instead of paying nothing to play (through a promoter as they book the place and take the hit, and also the profit), you may end up out of pocket (running it yourself)? Not sure how that works to be honest.

[quote name='D-L-B' post='861089' date='Jun 8 2010, 03:23 PM']Create a bit of solidarity. Organise your own gigs. Why do you need to play these crap gigs so badly anyway?[/quote] like I say, depends where you live. In some places the only venues are run like that, so you don't have much chance. Plus it also depends on how much a venue is charging to hire out. If it's expensive, you may not make the money back on the door, thus it's costing you to play. Not the best scenario to be in. not saying it's right mind you, it's just the way it is. As for solidarity and organising things. Cmon, we're all in/have been in bands. We should all know how hard it is to organise a bunch of musicians to do anything at the best of times, hell it's easier to work with kids and animals

[quote name='chris_b' post='861079' date='Jun 8 2010, 03:15 PM']Why do you "sharers" allow the promoter to get away with pressurising you into 7 min changeover's? You need at least 10 mins to get the previous band off and 20 mins to get the next band on. It's not a race! I don't understand why 30 min changeover's should cause a problem.[/quote] depends where you are. If you live in a place where's there's only a handful of venues, they may take umbridge and you won't get to play there again. Then one is up the proverbial if that happens! It would be nice if the bands called the shots, but a lot of the time the venues and promoters know full well that if one band starts being arsey they can be replaced by another 3 who will take their place and not be arsey.

[quote name='razze06' post='861029' date='Jun 8 2010, 02:31 PM']The shop is called scayles music, see [url="http://www.scayles.co.uk/resonator_guitars.html"]here for contact details[/url][/quote] cheers, and I'll be up in edinburger soon as well...... arrghhhh bank account

[quote name='razze06' post='860992' date='Jun 8 2010, 01:58 PM']Ever thought of a resonator bass? There is one for sale in an edinburgh shop. I played it some days ago, and it is quite loud, i suppose...[/quote] ooooooooooooooooo feeling gas coming on

[quote name='urbanx' post='860994' date='Jun 8 2010, 01:59 PM']I realise this situation will come up time and time again. And I will be put in the awkward position (again) of "If they can't use your amp, no other bands can play".[/quote] regardless of my last post, unless all the other bands were my mates, I'll tell them to f*** off just out of principle if they ever said that to me

It's not been too bad acoustically as both the other players are quite quiet. I've definitely noticed a difference between the two acoustic basses we already have in the house, hence me asking if anybody knew of any particular model that was noted for being a bit louder. I'll have to have a butchers at those dean basses - cheers heavy jay. I'd love a guitarron though - would be awesome just to have people ask if I'm little or far away might have to get me a roadie to carry the roland then

totally depends on the gig and who I'm playing with. Bunch of friends, they can sodomise my amp in public for my amusment if they want. If I don't know them from adam, I'll decided there and then. I'm not adverse to it by any means, but then I'm not massively precious about material possessions anyways, life's to short to worry about them imho. If somebody did break my amp on stage and I didn't know them, I'd politely grab their knackers and offer to give them back once they'd paid simple really.

ow do just a quickie. Starting to play a lot more acousticy stuff. Whilst I'm aware that an acoustic bass is never going to be particularly loud, I just wondered if anybody had come across any particular make/model that was noticably louder than others. Reason being is I'm starting to play a lot of acoustic nights and I can't be arsed to lug down my bass and the little roland, so ideally would just like something I can whip out and play. It's not too bad as I'm not playing against a guitar, it's actually a baritone uke and a madolin ta in advance peeps.

could always just sit down.