Friskydingo

9 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

Great job!

Are sensitivity figures reliable enough to use?

 

Worth adding a note about tweeters being fixed, switchable. multilevel or adjustable?

 

GR Bass use AES figures for power (which are about 20% higher than RMS, but have the advantage of being properly comparable with other cabs using AES methodology).

Is sensitivity reliably measurement? If so I'll try to find it and add. 

I have to find the tweeter options. Some brands are more helpful than others. 

I would like a kemper. I know the initial price is a lot but considering you can have every amp sound ever! It's a steal. I just don't think I have time to learn how to use it and fiddle with the settings. 

The cab looks amazing and I may up for 2x12 or 2x10 once funds are available, as they're not cheap! 

1 hour ago, Paddy515 said:

Tech 21 B-112 VT

17kg, 300 watts, 8 ohms and yes a tweeter.

Is this a discontinued product? I'm only adding cabs which are for sale

1 minute ago, Lozz196 said:

Can the Ashdown PRO-NEO ABM cabs be added - probably only a kg or two heavier than their Rootmaster cabs.

I'm going to get round to adding other models, I just wanted a representative of each manufacturer. At the moment on mobile which makes if far more challenging to edit! 

16 minutes ago, TheGreek said:

 

He's a member here???

I didn't know he even played bass!!

 

No Schroeders?

If Jesus existed he would definitely slap!

I'll add schroeders later

4 minutes ago, Phil Starr said:

First of all well done for doing this, I'm sure people will find it helpful.

 

I hesitate to make too many suggestions which will make extra work for you but a couple of things to possibly consider.

 

I think anyone looking at this with a view to buying would want a comprehensive list of the lightest cabs. Would it be fairer to include all cabs below a certain weight?  In your 12's for example you have a cab at 14.9kg which is a bit of a middleweight, but you only have one Barefaced. All their 12's are lightweight and if I was looking for a light 12 I'd want to know the full list. I can't see a 33kg Ampeg as lightweight

 

Along a similar vein adding a horn, crossover and compression driver is going to add at least 2kg so target for designing a lightweight 12 might be 10kg for a single driver and 12kg for one with a tweeter. You could effectively end up excluding all tweetered cabs from your list. Maybe you could have a separate list for tweetered cabs?

 

Finally I'm concerned at the power ratings manufacturers give. I see one manufacturer is rated by you as 600W (their ads say use a 600W amp), but the speaker they use is a modified Eminence driver which is thermally rated at 400W by Eminence. Other manufacturers are using the same driver rated (correctly IMO) at 400W. The same speaker is rated as 97db per watt sensitivity but maximum output is quoted by the cab maker as 127db, it's actually nearer 121db and similar to nearly every other 12" speaker on your list. To get that output would take 1000W(+30db) It's all a bit of a minefield so maybe you could put in a note to say that the power handling figures are from the manufacturers and people need to take them with a pinch of salt. I wouldn't go near trying to find and list the maximum output/ sensitivity figures I don't think you'll find any objective figures.

I'll probably add other models for various brands soon, I just wanted to represent each manufacturer in case people want matching cabs or a particular sound. 

Can't do anything about the Watts stated by the manufacturer. I only put what they state. I hope people will do a bit more research into loudness/power. My list gives at least a ball park figure. 

I added an extra column if the cab has a tweeter, which is incorporated in to weight. If I have time I'll add what the crossover frequency is. 

I'll happily add you to have edit permission

15 minutes ago, casapete said:

Great list, very useful!

Am I right in thinking the power/ watts ratings are ‘program’ rather than the more often used ‘continuous’ , if so maybe needs clarifying?

Thanks for taking the time to compile it. 🙂

Yes 'program' rated, some brands don't disclose continuous 

33 minutes ago, Happy Jack said:

Nice piece of work, this ... very helpful.

 

One for the list, please:

 

Alusonic 112 with tweeter (well, compression driver)

24 lbs

300W

8 Ohms

 

And for your further consideration, perhaps a 'MISC' section for all the quirky, weird stuff that people like me end up owning. For example ...

 

Greenboy Crazy 8 1x8

18.5 lbs

200W

8 Ohms

 

Or even (and at the risk of attracting cries of "but that's a combo") ...

 

PJB Briefcase 2x5

28 lbs (or 35 lbs with a motorcycle battery inside)

100W

4 Ohms

 

 

I may add the misc section and let others do the work for me. If users post the details I need I can then copy and paste it to the spreadsheet. 

Also alusonic! Another one I missed, although the list was meant to have more common brands or easily available 

33 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

Maybe select a few cab nerds and give them editing abilities on the document?

 

Would cut down the workload for you.

I don't mind a couple of people helping out. I don't want everyone having access just in case there's constant edits or bickering or even worse someone deletes it

20 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

Sorry for this suggestion, but a column showing which ones had a tweeter would be really useful. The slappers love them, but equally a lot of people don't want them or turn them off.

That's something I've been contemplating as a tweeter also adds weight and is a factor 

5 minutes ago, binky_bass said:

If you REALLY cared about our needs you'd construct a bespoke algorithm to scrape data from all UK based sales sites and then create a mean, median and mode column of those prices. But clearly sir you are a slacker and are content with the bare minimum of effort! 😜

I really do things half-assed. Which is shown in my bass playing 

8 minutes ago, jrixn1 said:

Good list.  You have put Barefaced Super Midget under 1x10, but it's a 1x12.  Their 1x10 model is the One10.  Super Midget should replace Super Compact on your list, as the former is the lighter.

I'm an idiot! Thanks for pointing that out. Spreadsheet has been updated

15 minutes ago, Hellzero said:

Maybe adding the sensitivity and the frequency response could be great too. I know it's not always mentioned and it's only indicative, but it can help when comparing two identical models.

 

Looks like GR Bass wins it in all categories...

 

Great work. 👌

Jesus! You want me to do your gardening as well? 

I think you're right, I'll add more specs later on. This will be a living list and maybe the Mods can use it

1 minute ago, binky_bass said:

Price would be a fantastic addition too!!!

 

(Bet you regret doing this now!) 

Not a chance! Seriously the only reason I left out price was because there's so much variation. 

12 minutes ago, warwickhunt said:

 

Yes, your absolutely right re. TKS added to which I don't know if they are even trading.

 

Looking at the heavier end of the range on your (excellent) spreadsheet I've noted that the TC RS cabs would be under the heaviest weight on the list, so possible inclusion of them?

I couldn't find the tc data on their site. They only do 2x8, 2x10 and 4x10 I believe? But I read they're massive. 

If you find a link I'll add them

9 minutes ago, Hellzero said:

Maybe adding the sensitivity and the frequency response could be great too. I know it's not always mentioned and it's only indicative, but it can help when comparing two identical models.

 

Looks like GR Bass wins it in all categories...

 

Great work. 👌

GR is ridiculously light. Hartke sl will be very light when that comes out. 

Orange is a funny one, as the 1x12 is light then gets heavier and the 4x10 is a monster! 

16 minutes ago, binky_bass said:

Excellent work sir.

 

However the GR AeroTech Carbon 410+ is 15kg and runs at 1200w (4/8ohm).

Good spot! Forgot to look at the 410+ model. This is why I need your eyes. 

Spreadsheet adjusted

Just now, King Tut said:

Great work. Maybe add Barefaced Big Baby to the list?

I chose the lightest 1x12 they have, which I did for every brand. I didn't want to add every model or range, or this list would get ridiculously long

7 minutes ago, warwickhunt said:

Works now. 

 

No TKS on the list?

I knew I would miss a couple. They're a very niche brand who don't have cabs readily available to try, unlike the other manufacturers. 

But their stuff is light

Sorry, hopefully I changed permissions and it should work now

Every couple of days someone post a topic about 'what lightweight cabs should I get'. So I decided to help people and put up a (almost) complete list of what's about. 

The link below covers the brand, the most popular cab sizes (1x10, 2x10, 1x12, 2x12, 1x15 and 4x10) and NOW EVERY RANGE! 

I've also put Watts and ohm rating in there, as well as tweeter/horn inclusion, just to be extra nice. 

If there's anything missing or incorrect let me know and I'll update it. 

Enjoy! 

*Every current range has been added. Please let me know of any mistakes

**info needed on tweeters functionality, fixed, on/off, multilevel 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GFuEsRKhs0CZcp3GrN_lzr8Ey1uB1YOi32_lS7RoHEQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

South West? Unless you're in turo both Exeter and Bristol have loads of options. Try living in Suffolk. 

It's going to be hard to recreate the sound of your band in a shop but as others said above;

-power

-sound

-weight 

-price

Then find it second hand somewhere

I guess the basschat bashes won't be happening any time soon, so I'll have to go to stores. Or I'll start turning up at your houses to try equipment 😏

Darkglass is definitely for the distortion/growl monsters out there. I thought their pedals were alright but overpriced, so just want to check the amps. 

Orange has something to it and that new little orange thing looks simple and fun

I'm edging towards a 1x12 or 2x10 cab. So once I get my head amp I'll start taking it to shops to try out. 

Just have to decide between aguilar th or orange terror, unless a deal comes up for dark glass or mesa amp