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2 hours ago, Al Krow said:

Cheers for that - that's very helpful. Couldn't quite work out whether you are saying that syncing drums and looper will be harder or easier on the Boss than with Jam + BB?

I’m saying that it will be extremely difficult with the Boss and BeatBuddy because you will have to time your foot pressing down on the looper to the exact milli second, whereas with the Ditto Jam and BeatBuddy, the looper alters your loop to fit your drums.  How the Boss loops with its own drum beats I have no idea.

you can have the sound of the drums as part of your loop with the ditto jam but it doesn’t sound as good as the BeatBuddy by itself, along with a bass loop on the jam.

that should all be as clear as mud now then.

28 minutes ago, Maude said:

It was me. I feel thoroughly ashamed and have taken a vow of silence on this thread as a result. 😉

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55 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

I think that's what I like about the RC-500 is the combination of looper + drums

Ditto Jam £130 + Beat Buddy mini £150 = cost of the RC 500

I reckon RC 500 will win on looper capability and the Beat Buddy mini have the better drums.

Hmmm...

I have never used the Boss loopers, so I don't know what I'm missing.  With the BeatBuddy, however, getting a looper to sync with the drums is very difficult, with the Boss loopers you have to press your foot down at just the right time.  You would mess the timing up 19 times out of 20 before getting it right!

The Ditto Jam syncs with the beat buddy, or whatever drum machine you use with it, it sort of stretches or flattens your loop to play in time with the beats!  So you don't have to worry about the timing so much, get it near and the Ditto will do the rest.

If you are looking for the best drum machine around then go for the BeatBuddy and Ditto Jam but if the looper is more important to you then you probably don't need the BeatBuddy.

Currently I mainly use the BeatBuddy's metronome and use the Ditto to listen back to my playing...but that is because I joined a covers band in July and my practise sessions are mainly taken up with learning songs.

32 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

I agree - there's a separate thread on it and quite a few BCers have already said they are getting. It's supposed to be pretty good too! 

I did spend £199 on a new Boss RC-30 back at the start of 2015, so I'm not sure why I'm feeling quite so daunted by the price of the RC-500 which looks like a very worthy successor! Maybe I've been spoiled by being able to buy quality used gear on this forum over the past few years? 

My looper is the Ditto Jam.  I got it to fit in with the Beat Buddy mini on my practise board, and it does that very well, so I won't be looking at the Boss loopers.  

The OC-5 is tempting but I'll wait.  I have an Aguilar Octamizer that doesn't get used very much but then it doesn't do that synth sound the OC-2 does.  I reckon we'll be getting plenty of feedback on here as to how good the OC-5 is and I'm sure GAS will get the better of me. 

In some ways, the release of the OC-5 is the bass event of the year!

I have a Pedaltrain Metro 16 and I have a MXR mini iso brick underneath, fits well (cable-tied), doesn't touch the floor.  I think the Nano will have about the same clearance as the Metro 16, but you'd have to check.

1 hour ago, Al Krow said:

Boss seem to be on a roll with their new  product launches such as the OC-5, and GT1000 Core and now these two (pretty spendy!) loopers the RC-5 (£175) and RC-500 (£263)

https://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/news/141208/

The OC-5 will probably fly off the shelf, possibly a licence to print money.

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3 hours ago, Hellzero said:

Try to find a Boss Chorus CE-2 which is very close to the JAM Pedals Waterfall (for bass as there's also a guitar version). As said before, to me the Waterfall is the best chorus pedal to date.

By the way, where do you place it in your signal chain ?

Tuner-compressor-octaver-dirt-chorus.

Were I to get another pre-amp, it would go after the chorus.

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3 hours ago, stewblack said:

Yeah but it'll never be as cool! 

That may be so!😆 Jam pedals all really look great, shame they don't come a bit cheaper.

2 minutes ago, stewblack said:

@BillyBass I have heard great things but sadly these are out of my budget. 

 

It is a luxury item, hand painted in Greece and, for me, it was a completely unnecessary purchase.  I was stuck at home during lockdown fuelling my GAS in-between practise sessions by watching pedal reviews and the like online.  I bet you can find a similar sounding pedal for a lot cheaper (that isn't hand painted in Greece).

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6 hours ago, stewblack said:

Are all bass chorus pedals inherently subtle?

They all seem to need maxing out before they do anything. I had one which others swear by and I couldn't even tell if it was on!

I wonder if I'm after something that doesn't exist. 

I've only ever had the jam ripply fall so I'm not sure how it compares to others but I use it for a cover of '24 hours' by Joy Division.  I have it on about half way, with the speed on about halfway too.  It gets way too wobbly if its on full, I'd probably start feeling seasick.

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