PaulWarning

10 hours ago, EssexBuccaneer said:

I got a set of Neon Green’s that arrived today. A bit buzzy, but well soon fix that. Not had a chance to try them out properly yet, that’ll come at rehearsal. Love the look of them 😎

I use green ones all the time, I get far more comments about them than about my  playing 😂, where did you get them from?

1 hour ago, casapete said:

The music shop my teenage self used to hang around in during the early/mid 70's meant I used to pick up useful tips that

I've never forgotten. Some were probably bollocks, but many have stuck with me.

 

I remember making speaker leads from the orange cable that came with many Black and Decker type products.

The good thing was that you couldn't mistake them for guitar leads which back then were mostly black (or coiled!).

Still got some somewhere.

that's what I use now, a mate gave me an extension lead for his lawn mower that he didn't use anymore, ideal speaker cable, like you say orange, 2 core, and nice and chunky

23 minutes ago, Dan Dare said:

 

Every Speakon packet bears an illustration showing connection for the terminals. If a doofus like me can understand it, anyone can.

don't know about anybody else but I need a magnifying glass to see the + and - on the plugs 😕

edit, and all this talk of speakon plugs is not much use to the @Cheeto726 as it looks like his gear has jack sockets

looks like they're old style jack plugs from the photos, I make my own up from old l 2 core lecy cables, bell wire is not advisable but anything a bit more substantial will do the job, and decent quality jack plugs, of course you need a soldiering iron for this 

On 18/03/2024 at 11:33, PaulWarning said:

just ordered some DR neon's from stings by mail in the USA, after a couple of days leaving my order in the sites basket got a discount code for $5, which bought the total price down to £28, including postage, waiting to see whether I'll get any extra import charges

the DR Neon's arrived today, no extra charges, bizarrely, according to tracking they came from Sweden! 

and he's still got 100% feedback!

Don't do Jam nights, same old songs, usually the blues, with long solos for the guitard to show off, but if you think you're bad I was doing an open mic once, playing guitar, and a bass player asked if he could join in, I said "sure we'll do 500 miles, same 3 notes in the same order all the way through" thinking how easy it would be, somehow managed to make a right mess of it

First thing I do at a gig is look round for table to put my 'stack' on, it's so much better for hearing myself, with the speakers at ear level.

just ordered some DR neon's from stings by mail in the USA, after a couple of days leaving my order in the sites basket got a discount code for $5, which bought the total price down to £28, including postage, waiting to see whether I'll get any extra import charges

I've got a black one, paid a mate £40 for it, a bit battered and heavy because it's ply, lovely bass though, I sound more like J J Burnel than with my precision, converted it to a lefty and got a new bridge from China for about 15 quid, the picture had Seymour Duncan quarter pounders pick ups on it but they made no difference so I put the stock De Marzi's back on 

well I've clicked to join, see what happens, though if it's not strongly moderated it'll finish up full of spam.

Facebook is good for advertising gigs but not a lot else, unless you enjoy looking at others peoples holiday snaps and their meals

if you saying what I think you're saying maybe you need a bigger screen or a new pair of glasses

I just had an email from ebay, they're introducing a new 'regulatory operating fee, .35% plus VAT on the final selling fee

36 minutes ago, solo4652 said:

@Phil Starr  Thank you - that's a helpful and thoughtful response. Actually, from my perspective, the real issue is not money. It's striving for low-faff simplicity. The band already takes ages to set up, with pedal boards (not mine), patch leads, radio mics, drum mics. Often there's a loose connection somewhere, or a piece of equipment doesn't "talk" to some other piece. Stage-space is becoming more and more limited. Recently, the drummer had a major moan about having to transport and store the existing PA system  (which he owns), complaining that the rest of the band could do more to help with load-in, set-up, load-out. I stand off to one side shaking my head. The drummer is a bit of a gear-head. He seems to enjoy building IEM PA systems. His last one was for an acoustic duo. He played cajon alongside an acoustic guitarist/singer. I went to one of their gigs and it took them 45 minutes to set up. IEM's for an acoustic duo!? Really? He's already got himself tooled up with a new desk, new drum mics, loads of leads for our band's new IEM system - it's what he does even though, from my viewpoint from the touchline, I wonder whether it's over-egging the pudding. Emperor's new clothes, and all that.

this is the reason I wouldn't like to go down the 'everything miced up and everybody has IEM route' (although the singer has them, but he says he can hear enough on stage without anything else going through them)

I don't like the setting up taking down of the PA (me and the drummer do it) especially after the gig, so the simpler it is the better I like it

with it being strung right handed and the bridge looks like it's been moved, someone (who doesn't know what they're doing?) has been messing about with it

1 hour ago, TimR said:

 

I don't think it does. 

not on it's own, no, it's great for one mic, to give that mic it's own mix, but to use with 3 mics you'd have to have a little mixer before it

I think mine must be in the mild overdriven category, I use a Zoom B1on and I've left it in tuner mode and not noticed for a few songs 😕

8 minutes ago, MichaelDean said:

Lots of gigging musicians (including drummers) playing the biggest stadiums and festival stages rely on in ear monitors. They can then also hear themselves over massive PA systems that are louder than a drum kit.

the OP has not said what size venues the band plays, presumable not very big otherwise they wouldn't need their own PA, if the drummer can't hear his own kit the on stage the sound must be way too loud, at big venues the band shouldn't hear much of the FOH sound.

The OP also asked the question would musician grade ear plugs be the answer, if it were me (and it's not) I would try those first before investing in extra kit

7 minutes ago, MichaelDean said:

Not if he wants a kick, snare and overhead mics.

 

I guess you could feed that from another mixer, but who wants to carry two mixers?

right see what you mean, I'm with @solo4652 on this, I can't see ear buds or phones  blocking out the sound of an acoustic kit, as others have said an electric kit might be a better bet, or custom ear plugs, seems a load of trouble to go to just so the drummer can get the bit of extra clarity he'd lose, say, using ACS custom ear plugs

4 minutes ago, MichaelDean said:

That doesn't get around not having enough inputs on the desk if the drummer wants to go with IEMs.

true, but like I said a few posts ago this does

https://www.andertons.co.uk/live-pa/live-headphones/behringer-ma400-headphone-amplifier

3 minutes ago, solo4652 said:

The nature pf The Problem seems to be changing. It started off with the drummer and the guitarist being concened about tinnutis, and sugegsting that IEM's would help protect their hearing. Latest message from drummer reads: "Our current desk only has 4 mic inputs and 1 monitor output so we’re out of ports before we even start. It’s all about the mix that individuals want to hear. I think our monitoring is a bit poor atm as [keys player] struggles to hear herself and also [lead vocalist]. And I struggle to hear both of them because of where I’m sat. Just trying to avoid more wedges and more volume as it rarely improves sound."  So now the discussion is about poor stage monitoring. Currently there is just one monitor - it sits out front on the floor at the singer's feet. Is there a way that the output from the desk could be split so that individuals could have their own mini/personal monitors, perhaps? Some sort of snake?? 

we had this problem, one monitor out, singer always complaining he couldn't hear himself, us complaining we couldn't hear our backing vocals, this solved the problem, without a new mixer
https://www.andertons.co.uk/live-pa/live-headphones/behringer-ma400-headphone-amplifier

as a pub band we've been using a Yamaha EMX 512sc for about 18 years now, not sure it's still available but things have moved on to powered speakers anyway, it's served us well, vocals, bass drum, but trying to figure out what is the power out put is not easy, 500watts according to Yamaha https://usa.yamaha.com/products/proaudio/mixers/emx_box_type/emx512sc_spec.html

some retailers add the 2 channels together and call it a 1000 watts and Yamaha don't say whether the 500 watts it's RMS or not.

Some manufacturers are very naughty with their power ratings, Alto plaster 2000 watts on their speakers but I suspect that's peak power, nowhere near RMS

I used some old lawn mower extension cable when I was making up up a long lead for our PA, no problems at all, and it's yellow, so easy to see

having an idle moment thought I'd check up DR prices, £40 seems the bench mark figure at the moment, mind you I've not changed mine for about a year and they still sound ok, roughly that's about 80 hours playing, I use my back up for practice and that's got  a set of Neons on it off main bass last time I changed them, and they still sound ok, 

25 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said:

 

 

A drummer blazing away with a healthy right foot is freakin' loud in any enclosed space you would call a bar with a band as opposed to an entertainment venue with a bar. By the time you add vocals over that, and some bass and guitars that are not determined to be the loudest thing by 10dB, you are not short of volume.

 

 

this is true, our drummer is loud, I know some on here will say a good drummer can control the dynamics, but in all other aspects he's good and good drummers don't grow on trees, so by the time we've got a good mix we are loud in an average size room, micing up the drums for pub gig would be ridiculous