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    Running a 6x10 and an 8x10 together

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    3 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

    AFAICS none of the those AC/DC bass cabs are mic'd up so their contribution to the FoH sound (and that's the important bit of the band sound) is zero.

    The contribution to the visual impact and the sheer silliness of it though is considerable. 

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    Running a 6x10 and an 8x10 together

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    3 minutes ago, EBS_freak said:

    Yeah brilliant!!

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/hear-brian-johnson-talk-hearing-loss-ive-had-a-pretty-good-run-175587/

     

    “I was getting worried because my right ear is my good ear,” Johnson said. “My left ear is just about totally deaf. And when we got there, that’s when Dr. Chang found out that the fluids had crystalized and had been eating away at my ear. So my good ear, I lost – I don’t know what percentage but it was enough to make things very difficult. So they worked on me.”

    He's coming back though!! Also he is 71. My grandad was deaf in his 60's and the loudest music he ever listened to was an old am radio on the kitchen windowsill.

     

    Running a 6x10 and an 8x10 together

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    Just now, thodrik said:

    There is a quite brilliant AC/DC 'Rig Rundown' video showing the set up. The thing that really surprised me was that Angus Young's wall of Marshalls are not dummy cabs, they are all fully loaded cabs being driven by a fleet of Marshall amps that are being run at deliberately off-bias. The techs are constantly swapping in and out amps as they break. 

    I suppose if you can do it, do it! Practicality be damned. 

    I like you Thodrick 🤘

    Running a 6x10 and an 8x10 together

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    3 minutes ago, EliasMooseblaster said:

    I'm going to hazard a guess that this might make more a difference than the number of speakers in each cab! The voicing of a ported cab is going to be very different from that of a sealed one, and the horn is going to mean a lot more treble thrown out of one cab but not the other (though you may be able to disable that).

    If both cabs were sealed, I'd have thought the difference in tone between a 6 and an 8 would be negligible (ignoring the difference in volume from the extra two cones), but if you have a ported, horn-loaded cab on one side of your rig, and a sealed cab on the other, you might find your perceived tone changes quite drastically as you move around it onstage!

    I think this is exactly what concerns me.

    Running a 6x10 and an 8x10 together

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    "If you want to get really over the top, run 2 8x10 stacked horizontally to give yourself a massive de facto 16x10 set up"

    You can already guess that this has crossed my mind :)

    " Phasing issues could make the sound or tone to vary markedly from venue to venue or depending on where you stand on the stage"

    This is what concerns me and is what I though might be the case. Although they would be side by side with the amp on the smaller cab.

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    Running a 6x10 and an 8x10 together

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    4 minutes ago, thodrik said:

    As I own a 6x10 I would like to point out that a 6x10 can be more difficult to move than an 8x10 unless it is a lightweight design. The length of an 8x10 makes it easier to lean into and slide into the back of a car without having to physically lift it up. A 6x10 is a shorter cab, and generally nearly as heavy as an 8x10. With heavyweight designs such as Ampeg SVT 6x10 or a Mesa Powerhouse 6x10, it is often a far bigger struggle to lean the 610 cab and slide it into the back of the car than the 8x10 equivalent because of the lower pivot point. I have a Mesa 6x10 and  I often have to lift the cab into the car/van. This is a pretty tough one job. I can manage it now at the age of 33 but I am aware that as a long term lighter solution is needed. However, a Mesa 6x10 was my dream cab for 15 years, so I at least want to enjoy it now that I finally have one. Can't imagine needing more than a single 6x10 or 8x10 on stage though. 

    My thoughts, since you already have a 4 ohm 8x10, why not just buy two 8 ohm 4x10 cabs. Stacked they look much like an 8x10, with the benefit that: 

    1. 2 4x10s should be easier to move than 1 6x10, on the basis that two manageable load ins are preferable to a single load in resembling a world's strongest man event; and

    2. You have the option of using a single 4x10 for gigs that don't require a massive rig or where space is an issue.

    Both cabs will be going in wheeled "live in" roadcases and never travel by car, only in a large van, so shunting them round doesn't phase me too much. Easy access at home etc.And I'd never have to do it on my own. I'm not a fan of 4x10s tbh and there's zero difference footprint-wise to a 6x10. Plus adding in the expense of two roadcases vs one and the extra space they would take up kinda pushes that idea away. 

     

    ALL gigs require a massive rig!!! Hahaha!! So I'd never use a 4x10 on it's own. I'm completely aware that it is ludicrously over the top but that's part of the fun :)

     

    What i don't know is how they would sound together with one being ported with a horn and the other not. I guess I should just find out by doing it. While my back is still strong enough that is. (Undoubtedly on borrowed time with that though )

     

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