Killed_by_Death

"Are you coming to our concert this weekend?!"

citizen: "What kind of Music do you play?"

"It's good Music, man!"

citizen: I'll pass

"Are you coming to the Goth dance-party this weekend?!"

Azrael Abyss: "Heck yeah!"

Azrael Abyss comes to the party in full regalia, including corpse-paint & a vintage long-tail coat

first song played "Love Cats" by The Cure

Azrael Abyss departs so fast his neck is aching on the walk home.

Azrael Abyss cares about labels!

most citizens care, but some are just using them incorrectly to 'niche' something they don't like

Led Zeppelin use Heavy Metal to refer to a big engine:

Check that heavy metal
Underneath your hood

mmm, good: mozzarella, parmesan, romano

We make it a little spicy, sambal!

I'm having Zero-Sugar 7-Up & getting ready to make some spag-bol.

1 hour ago, Supernaut said:

those who get so upset about a topic

 Who is upset?

1 hour ago, Supernaut said:

they feel the need to constantly post on it

  Twice in two weeks?, constant?

1 hour ago, Supernaut said:

pointing out that it is in fact everyone else that is wrong

  The majority agrees with my original thoughts, so where is the argument?

snapshot of the results so far:

15 hours ago, Happy Jack said:

When BS came out the music they played was what we later called Heavy Metal.

Correct, they defined the sub-genre.

15 hours ago, Happy Jack said:

I don't know of anybody who called it that at the time - it was heavy rock.

That's correct as well, but if you look at magazines like Creem or Hit Parader, even in the 70s they were calling bands like Van Halen & Aerosmith Heavy Metal.

It's almost exactly the opposite of how folks who were actively listening to Music at the time were talking about them.

At some point it went from something that bands didn't want to be lumped in, to something the media was throwing around like a catchphrase. I lived through that part & I would laugh at those rags. Some of them didn't survive & the ones that are out there reportng on the Heavy Music these days are no better.

I'm thinking about Blabber Mouth & Loud Wire.

nail polish remover (Acetone) was w/o a doubt the worst suggestion

When this happens on whiteboards, the best way to get it off is to write over the permanent ink with erasable ink, then wipe it off.

Hmm, there's apparently Ethanol in those, so maybe also a bad idea

2 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

Pigeonholing is about reducing, exactly the opposite in fact

That's why I put the quotes around pigeonholing, it was basically the same in reverse.

4 hours ago, tegs07 said:

There was a discussion not long ago about if Judas Priest were Heavy Metal.

That discussion was whether or not their first album was Heavy Metal. The popular vote is that it's not.

They were undoubtedly Heavy Metal later-on, but their Marketing people have been claiming "50 Years of Heavy Metal" to all & sundry.

2 hours ago, TheGreek said:

aren't DP considered a bit too lightweight nowadays for this category?

Even back then most of their output was not Heavy Metal.

7 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

it’s about pigeonholing

You perfectly happy 'pigeonholing' KISS out of Glam-Metal during the Animalize period recently.

6 hours ago, stewblack said:

they were very much heavy metal

I could list the songs where they were Heavy Metal, & the list is far shorter than the list of their catalog that was not.

Why wasn't Black Night included on D.P. In Rock?

Child in Time does sound better

Yeah, we shouldn't have Music discussions on a Music forum. What was I thinking?!

Black Sabbath's first album was undoubtedly Heavy Metal & still is today, so if it's timeless it will always be Heavy Metal.

Traditionalist think that Sheehan is a 'bad' bass player, according to their 'rules'.

There's no doubting that Deep Purple influenced some future Heavy Metal bands, but is this particular song Heavy Metal?

Allan Atkins was active on FB for a bit & posted photos of him with Ian Hill in a studio, but then vanished.

He's a member of a Judas Priest group I'm in, but I guess he got tired of people calling him a liar.

To me, ALL the Riot Grrrll! bands were Grunge. I actually thought a new sub-genre just because they're female was a stupid thing. It's kind of like the comments that "Tina Weymouth is a great WOMAN bass player!".

She's great no matter what gender she is, as well as the Riot Grrrl! acts. L7 is a damn great band live!

I was trying amps in the back of the local Fender dealer one day & I played the intro to Purple Haze poorly a few times.

No sooner than I had stepped out into the front that some dude goes straight back there & starts wailing Purple Haze loud, so I just gave a flat smile to the staff & headed straight for the door.

I never saw that guy in there again, but if I had I would have just walked right out.

I'm not going to read the comments, because I've read them all before elsewhere, people like to lament about their experience after a jam that was less than desirable, & I fit the parameters they were moaning about most of the time.

A 'friend' once told me on FB that I have no business making Music, & after years of trying to prove that wrong, I must concede.

I enjoy Rocka Rolla just fine, but it's just not Heavy Metal.

It's Bluesy Hard Rock.

Their Marketing people are rounding UP about 5 years on their Fifty Years of Heavy Metal claim.

Gene Simmons has been VERY consistent with his song-writing, from the beginning until now I can tell right away that Gene wrote it, because it just smells Horny.

I came across this in my FB memories today. eBay's GSP still is a thing:

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/shipping-items/setting-shipping-options/global-shipping-program?id=4646

I much prefer Gaye Advert:

Lots of stuff gets lumped in as Glam Metal, but take Mötley Crüe's debut, that's some heavy hard-hitting stuff, no Glamour.

How would there be Punk w/o Rock?

it's a sub-genre of Rock & Roll, much like Heavy Metal

Or do you mean the Punk that was derived from Ska?

A agree that a Shock Rock act like Alice Cooper wasn't Heavy Metal, but... he evolved into Glam Metal, probably around the same time KISS tried it.