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And solved, after some googling and looking on forums I found out it uses a double action truss rod and there is a place in the adjustment where there is virtually no counter tension and it will feel like the truss rod is not doing anything, turn it past this point and it starts to grip again and adjust

Thanks for the replies, I have just out of interest tried adjusting it the other way (tightening) and it seems to tighten and then I can loosen it back to where it was but no further and when I reach the limit of where it can be loosened the truss rod key just seems to turn freely without any resistance, is this normal ? I am confused about whether this is normal or whether I got a bass with a duff truss rod

So I brought a Harley Benton JB-75 on the dubious Facebook marketplace, the bass all looked ok till I got it home tonight.  After replacing the crusty looking strings that the bass came with I went to loosen the truss rod and found that the truss rod key was spinning freely so it seems I have a rounded out truss rod  

I have messaged the seller tonight but to be honest my gut tells me this is not going to end favourably,  so... Anyone know what my options are for a cheap replacement neck? thank you

1 hour ago, jonno1981 said:

6. Silk windings that fray. I don’t know why it just bugs me. 

Yes it bugs the life out of me as well, hate it

I have been curious about the one for a while but never brought one as the string spacing is way too tight for me, I know they are aimed at pick players but my picking technique is pitiful at best

Bumpity bump, would be a real shame to have to dispose of these, would much rather someone got some useage out of these

8 hours ago, odysseus said:

Wouldn't be the first time somebody got the bullet because someone else wanted to get their mate in.  Don't be too downcast, and keep on truckin', fella!

Red hot chilli peppers comes to mind

Price dropped to £50 for quick sale

Free to a good home, Gear4Music 15w practice amp, Violin bass case, the case was used for a Vintage brand Violin bass, should fit other violin basses but I cannot guarantee it will, collection from Croydon

Edit: amp gone, case still available

Am selling my Harley Benton PB-50 single coil p bass -PRICE DROP TO £50 FOR QUICK SALE- or will trade for a Jazz bass of some description, collection from Croydon or if within London area can meet halfway, I have swapped the pots for 500k for a brighter tone, the wiring looks interesting but works absolutely fine and the bass has a nice tone, is plenty bright and aggressive with rounds and the tone on full but mellows nicely with the tone rolled off a little if you prefer a warmer tone and has a lot of attack to each note so would be an absolute thump monster with flats, I have taken off the white pickguard but will include it with the bass, the pickguard can be seen in the 2nd picture, is in decent condition but am really wanting a jazz bass 

12 minutes ago, NasalFloss said:

‘Fine tuning’ is a good way to put it. I wasn’t expecting anything radical. Tone needs/wants can often be achieved with knowing your instrument and hand placement.

 

I should have explained further and said that these ‘improvements’  most noticeable when played finger style from midway between the pickup and neck. I really wouldn’t know what they would do for you as a pick player or playing close to the bridge.

 

I think of a more ‘classic’ tone with these when I use them and they sounded that they fit in a bit better in general. They sounded great when I was playing along with some Madness and Jackson 5 anyway 🤣🤣🤣 (as you’ve guessed I’m a bass shed virtuoso and they have not been used in a band setting)

Yeah, the way I look at it is that I know what I want tonally and my go-to pickups provide that 'baked in' tone with a minimum of tweaking amp eq, in short I know that whether I play at a gig or an open mic/jam night/other my bass will for the most part sound pretty much the same

I like the natural finish of the body but I HATE satin finish maple necks especially when they are that awful pale shade like on this bass, just looks cheap to me and on a bass that costs over 2k that is the last thing I would want.

Oh and the volume knobs and the pickups are hideous

Also the 250k volume pots are a bit baffling to me, they claim "there are no tone controls to color the sound; therefore, the tone is manipulated solely by the user's technique and finesse" but then they colour the sound by using the lowest value volume pots, really if they wanted an uncoloured sound they should have gone with 2x 500k pots with a treble bleed circuit

15 minutes ago, NasalFloss said:

I installed them today and have to say that I’m impressed. Nice note clarity and depth, but I didn’t notice a massive difference between the stock Player P pickups, but this is probably down to the lacklustre equipment I’m using.

 

 

To be honest most p pickups I have tried have sounded very similar, some may have been a little brighter or darker or had more definition in the lows but the basic tone has been pretty much the same and for this reason I think of pickup swaps as fine tuning your tone rather than radically changing it, this is why pickup comparisons on YouTube are usually useless because the subtle differences between pickups are usually lost in the recording and then even more so once YouTube compresses the audio.

That being said I am not saying that pickup swaps are a waste of time, just that the differences are often subtle, in fact first mod I usually do with p basses is swap out the pickups for some Seymour Duncan SPB-2

Would you could do is raise the pole pieces, I would unscrew them completely and then put a couple of washers under them to raise them a little

On 20/04/2022 at 12:01, Leonard Smalls said:

You're playing the wrong kind of jazz then!

Play a cacophonous racket with no discernible beat and definitely no melody, and you may just about get some chin-stroking polo-necks in!

 

My god that sounds f@!king awful, what a racket

3 hours ago, stewblack said:

Quite agree. You buy something styled on the original but have every right to expect it to encompass practical, technical improvements.

Exactly, to expect people to remove the neck to adjust the truss rod on a bass that is produced nowadays is ridiculous 

11 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

 

I fail to get the idea that someone would buy something called a 50s precision bass and then complain that it had a feature that was present on a 50s precision bass. I know several people who would be absolutely mortified if fender made a model claiming to be based on another model and a screw was even a mm out of place.

I guess they are damned if they do and damned if they don't!

 

I get what you are saying but people dont always buy because because they want a carbon copy of something, people are often attracted to an instrument primarily by looks and then if they play it and they like the way it sounds and feels they might buy it, also on mine it does not say anywhere on the headstock that it is a 50s precision bass so if I had not looked up the serial number online afterwards I would not have even known, no labels in the shop declaring it as such either.

5 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

 

Probably the same person who thought you would never have to adjust a truss rod and it wasn't a user changeable item. And if it was based on the 50s design, the first telecasters (or broadcasters) didn't have truss rods at all, so they weren't a user item

 

Yeah it's just sad that Fender have gone so far in trying to stay faithful to there old designs that they have made it so that you have to remove the neck to adjust the truss rod, then if you find the first adjustment was too much or not enough once you have the strings back on you have to take the neck off again

15 hours ago, stewblack said:

I've been playing my 4 string passive JP all evening and it's just wonderful. Plays like I've had it for years.

One feature I love and wish I had on all my basses is this

I could do with that feature on my 50s p bass, I mean who thought it would be a good idea to have to remove the neck to adjust the truss rod

Not tried them but they sound interesting, I have always been intrigued by(but never pulled the trigger due to them being US based) the GFS hot precision pickup, is wound to 16k so should sound nice and beefy. https://www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-Pro-Series-HOT-P-Bass-Pickup-Pickup-OUR-BEST_p_10978.html

5 minutes ago, Roger2611 said:

Heathen, I hear you shout, the rattling of pitchforks begins!

 

I was lucky enough to have attended two gigs over the Easter weekend and both made me question our role within a band, Saturday evening saw me at The Alarm in Northampton, fantastic night, great band, great songs and no bass player! The band played to backing tracks which was basically the bass track and some percussion...I don't get it, The Alarm are a guitar based band, there was plenty of room on stage and the backing tracks were basically live recorded bass parts...nothing overly fancy but good solid audible bass parts......

 

Sunday night I was unfortunate enough to be at The Mission in Leeds, Craig Adams seemed to be enjoying playing a few bits further up the neck on his Rickenbacker...Craig, buddy, no point, we cannot hear a single note you are playing, the mix is the usual drum heavy bass mush laden sound that seems to be the go to sound for bass at larger venues....he would have been better using the Rick to swipe Mr Hussey around the head for being so drunk on stage that it was bordering a farce

 

So which is better, a bass track that sounds OK but no bassist or a live bassist who really needs play nothing but root notes because the mix is too poor to hear anything else!

 

Rant over 

Damn that's a shame, I love The Mission, such a shame to hear Wayne is still overdoing it on the booze.

I totally get what you are saying about large venues, for some reason the sound person always seems to think that bass should just be a subsonic mush that no one can actually hear properly, I think in the past few years I have been to about a dozen gigs, probably 2 of those gigs actually had a decent bass sound

4 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

 

So a jazz bass is a P bass, but a Fender Player plus precision bass isn't a precision bass?

If the pickups on the jazz are precision pickups then yes

P bass:

Bass with one pickup either split p pickup or single coil p pickup

Bass with 2 or more pickups that are split p or single coil p pickups

Not a p bass:

Any bass that does not have p pickup(s)

Pj basses

On 13/04/2022 at 18:46, OliverBlackman said:

This!!! Was about to suggest the same

16 hours ago, Paolo85 said:

 

Apologies for quoting a 2021 post, but may I ask you what sort of problem did rhe Jaguar CVs have? I'd really like one but I find this discouraging

Yes no problem,

The first one was aesthetic, the neck was a lovely amber tone until you went further up the neck where it was pillar box red were someone had gone mad applying the finish. Even my wife thought it looked dreadful.

The second one the frets were completely knackered, no amount of adjustment would get rid of the buzz and I think they realised this in the factory as the action was jacked up sky high

It was a shame the first one was so aesthetically jarring with its dayglo neck as it played well