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15 hours ago, Kev said:

Looking great bud, no tweedy delivery for me yet so i guess i must have missed the first batch, odd as I would have thought a LTD range so small would have shipped as one, ah well! Looking forward to it all the same!

 

Cheers Kev. I had asked about doing a Two10 in tweed the week before, and spotted the website link was live Friday night, so think I might have been first on the list!

Two of them are bloody loud for such tiny boxes - think i’m set now!

Gig tomorrow night with the noisy lot, but they don’t stand a chance of drowning me out now... mooohaahaaahaaaa!!!!!!

It’s here!

Only had time to pull it out the box, play enough to get yelled at by the mrs, then back to work...

1 hour ago, Steve Browning said:

http://www.normansrareguitars.com/product.php?productid=5987&cat=199&page=1

Rather a nice maple neck at Norm's in LA (not Littlehampton)

That is lovely! I think my next purchase might have to be one like that. 

‘‘Tis the season! 

9 hours ago, Kev said:

.... And now I have one on order!   

Good man! Ready early next week they say - super excited!

A well known comedian from a popular news show once asked me to go score for him. I was not in the appropriate position to oblige.

Played bass in the school band with the son of a famous 60’s act.

Paul from Morcheeba made a stupid low offer on a valve mic I was selling on eBay.

2 hours ago, Creeper said:

So this is what we’re talking about, yes it was made in the mid 70s on worn out equipment by people who weren’t particularly bothered, yes there is a definite similarity to a turd, yes it weighs as much as a small car.

but is it just little bit funky??

Yes!

Damn. Sorry to hear about that. 

I think the black with cloth will look booming with this sitting on top. I quite like mismatched but matched cabs!

I had been thinking about it since I saw the one off they did a while back. Alex mentioned it to me Friday so I hastily spent some money I don’t have!

Broke the news to Mrs today - she took it really well to be fair!!!

That’s an odd one that. The type face looks old, but the headstock shape and bridge look newer. I’d hazard a guess at mid 80’s.

The only experience I had with a Hohner bass was a boat anchor of a P about 22 years ago. That had the Fender type headstock shape though.

They are funny though...

Is it a bass, or has someone just been sick in the bag?

1 hour ago, Bridgehouse said:

Full range flat response - means it isn't coloured like a guitar or bass cabinet. Most are powered (with a power amp) and allow you to amplify a source which already has modelling or treatment for a signal which has pre and post amp and speaker cab emulated

Line 6 Helix is a guitar and bass multi effect processor with a full range of amplifier and cabinet modelling capability

Thanks for the explanation!  Interesting approach.

In one of my first bands 20 yrs ago I often just went straight in to the PA from my Zoom multiFX without an amp of my own. Just seemed easier!

With in-ears and really good PAs (slowly) becoming the norm maybe amps/cabs/combos will be gone in 20 yrs?

Excuse my ignorance, but what is an FRFR? And Helix?  Sounds like a fast car and a cat, but that doesn’t make sense in the context of the thread.

Yeah, plus 2 look cooler than 1, and now I can turn it up to 11 - tweedy One10 ordered!!!

On 14/11/2017 at 16:57, jrixn1 said:

Another variable worth considering is the power of the head.  The Barefaced one10 webpage says "safe with up to 500W if you're running fairly clean sounds" - so if your desire is to be louder, it could be the head which is the limiting factor, not the fact that you only have one cab.

A PF350 outputs 250W into 8ohms (one cab) or 350W into 4ohms (two cabs).  As a comparison, I have a Shuttle 9.2 which outputs 500W or 900W.  But what difference will it make?

BTW I don't have any technical expertise in this area, so please point out if I've misunderstood or misinterpreted any of the following!

I used the sound pressure level calculator at http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-efficiency.htm, with a sensitivity of 95dB (as per Barefaced one10 webpage), and the calculator's default distance of 3m.

The starting point is PF350 into one cab, which gave 109.5dB.

The results:

• PF350 into two cabs → 113.9dB (an increase of 4.4dB).
• Shuttle 9.2 into one cab → 112.5dB (an increase of 3.0dB).

As an approximate guide, a increase of 10dB is a doubling of perceived loudness.

So with 4.4dB increase vs the Shuttle's 3.0dB, the winner is the PF350 with two cabs - but I think it's close enough that a more powerful head remains a comparable alternative to getting a second cab.

Some other results:

• Shuttle 9.2 with two one10s → 118.0dB.
• PF350 with a two10 (sensitivity 98dB) → 116.94dB.
• PF350 with a four10 (sensitivity 101dB) → 119.94dN.

Anyway - hope it's interesting.  There are other differences between one cab or two: using one means less carrying, whereas two cabs probably have a deeper tone and will be taller.  And anyway, theoretical calculations should probably yield to any real-world experiences.

FWIW I use my Shuttle 9.2 and a single one10 most of the time (although I do own two).  This is with a ten-piece function band who is still quite loud on stage despite owning a huge PA.

Nice - thanks for that!

So i’ve joined another band, and guess what? They’re LOUD!!!

When I ordered my One10 I played in just the one outfit, where we always have a very decent PA provided.  Now I’m in two other rock bands my needs have changed. Bloody guitarists with their Marshall half stacks and Fender Twins!

I’m seriously considering going Two10 (in tweed - nice!) now as 2/3rds of the time I’m pushing the One10 to its limits.

Might have to wait til after Christmas to sell this one and buy it’s big brother though. That should also get a loud gig done to see how it fares.

Buy the MIJ and it’ll all be fine!

I’m not a fan of the synthetic roadworn look. I’d pick the Japanese one.

Plus, excellent point made above - you won’t lose money with the Japanese version... and what if roadworn goes out of fashion?!?!

I use an omni over the top of the kit and a kick mic - both together cost about £60 and i’m happy with the results.  I used a valve condenser front of kit in place of the kick mic once - fantastic bloom from the kick. I made a sample pack of it with my patient drummer!

Ha! The title made me chuckle... it’s a familiar theme for me. I love that bass - I probably would have “accidentally” bid on that if i’d seen it!  You say Squire yet the headstock decal disguised that fact? Anyhoo - congrats on a good purchase.

No one’s made a comment about the title yet?!  Perhaps it’s just my childish nature.

Hiya! Good gig Friday with the soul band. The sound engineer is in love with the sound coming from this set up - he’s a bassist too and will shortly be contacting Alex & co for a cab!  He wants to mic me as opposed to DI next time he loved it so much.

During sound check I couldn’t stop noodling- it’s the sort of improvement that gives you more confidence, if you know what I mean.

The drummer loves it too, says it’s deeper but clearer.

I was going through a very decent PA so I wasn’t worried about volume, but even so, the sound on stage was plenty loud enough.

Overall, even smugerer about my rig than I was to begin with. I don’t *need* another cab, but I will be getting another One10 at some point!

Next gig is on 9th but with a different band (sans PA). Should be a good test...

It’s like an iris close up. Really lovely, that.

You might be waiting a while! The keyboard player normally books all the gigs, but he’s been busy with work recently, so only two more for 2017!
I’m confident it will be perfect in the soul band, but I’d probably would have gone with a two10 had the timing of the purchase been different, for both the extra air movement and the larger physical size - the One10 is proper tiny.