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10 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

 

but when you were a kid, whatever time you grew up, the anticipation of the next recording of your favourite group was palpable too - just there were more of them.

I wasnt talking personaly, I meant a large proportion of the population, and other bands and musicians. Ask people my age who were not even into the Beatles, people of all ages at the time. Unlike most acts they appealed, more so at first, to all generations. Like or loath them, there influence and popularity is impossible to overstate. 

No. But where they took popular music from, and led it too, in only 7 years was beyond belief. They not only defined the 60s musicaly but were style and fashion icons. I was lucky enough to grow up in the Beatles era and the anticipation of their next recording was palpable. They defied convention and are still relevant and influential. Probably never to ne repeated. On second thoughts, I would probably settle for their back catalogue if i was forced to chose just one band for the rest of my life. 

On 14/05/2013 at 16:32, Damonjames said:

"What do you play?"
"I used to play football at school"
"I mean what instrument"
"I don't, I just saw everyone else lining up and I thought you were selling drugs!"

Classic film!

Agreed. Its about a band, its funny, its Irish, and some great music. The Commitments and Cabaret are two of my favorite films. 

I always thought it's a difficult job to chose. There are songs I love because they stand alone to me as great pieces of music. Then there are songs that I dont feel are great, but they were in my head at important or emotional times in my life, so they trigger good vibes. 

I like music, in general. I tend to like songs rather than genre. Not keen on rap, but have heard a couple of songs I enjoyed. 

4 hours ago, Rich said:

 

 

So does this mean that the 'fat' bit is the problem? Really?

As I said, Its just an opinion, its not important and I wont lose sleep over it. Rock and Roll and image have always gone hand in hand. 

On 14/11/2022 at 09:30, Rich said:

Would it be ok if they were thin blokes doing covers?

Yep, definitely. I have already posted that. I can suspend time, to an extent, If the band still look like rock stars. Ha. Its just an opinion, like yours. 

On 11/11/2022 at 10:00, Rich said:

Perhaps I should retire then, if that's such a bad thing.

Its not a bad thing at all, If its fat blokes doing covers, its when you pay lots of money to see a much loved band and they have simply become fat blokes doing covers. 

On 05/11/2022 at 15:42, BigRedX said:

 

Most of the bands I liked in my youth didn't have any "legendary" playing in them even at the height of their popularity.

Butvthe OP is about legends retiring. 

On 07/11/2022 at 12:16, mowf said:

Macy Gray " I try":

 

Though I try to hide it, it's clear
I wear goggles when you are not near

Ha ha, yes. I thought it was "I blow bubbles when you are near me". 

They should retire when their playing is no longer "Legendary". Otherwise they are diluting the legend. 

2 hours ago, petebassist said:

At the same bass show as Glen M, Stu Hamm did his Going To California solo piece - now that's something to behold I think. I'd love to have just one performance piece like that up my sleeve. Just for personal private enjoyment of course...bass porn!

Quite a few people on here have claimed to want to do fret w*nk*ry, but only for their own amusement and never in public. I don't see the point of learning or practicing something I would claim to never use. 

7 hours ago, Misdee said:

Very true.

 

Rickenbacker basses are a pretty esoteric design, though. I would contend that the Fender is more an easier design to get along with for most players.  That said, I know Paul McCartney is on record as saying that he never really felt comfortable playing a Fender bass, so that very topically illustrates your point.

 

I know that by the time Revolver  was recorded Paul had his Rick, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had still used his Hofner on some tracks, just like he did on Let It Be.

 

Agreed. Also Paul and John, and George to a lesser extent, always seemed more concerned about the quality of the song than obsessing about the instruments. On Sgt Peppers they allegedly tried to make every instrument used sound as different as possible. 

5 hours ago, Misdee said:

It's just that every time I play a Rickenbacker bass I am reminded why I've never gotten one before; I grew up playing Fender basses and the Rick feels so alien I can hardly play it!  The non-tapered neck completely throws me. And the strings keep hitting the pole pieces on the pickups and making loud clunking noise. I just love the sound and the look so much I can't give up on the idea. 

 

When I first started playing the bass I wanted more than any other was a Rickenbacker. Come to think of it, I probably started playing the bass just so I could get a Rickenbacker, such was their allure. I didn't want to be a bass player so much as a Rickenbacker owner. Now it's forty-odd years later and I still haven't had a Rick. But never say never...

It's like anything. If you had started out on a Rick you would then have found Fender necks odd. 

2 hours ago, Misdee said:

Listening to this album has made me  hanker for a Rickenbacker bass even more, by the way.

Why not, a unique and left field sound. Why follow the crowd? 

Glen Cornick. His bass lines were so Integral to a lot of Tull's early stuff. Before him bass was just in the background, as far as I was concerned. 

Their has been plenty of angry music over the years since punk. It doesn't have to be loud, fast or overt to be angry. 

Reliable tempo. Plays WITH the bassist. Good groove, listens to the music, and good sense of humor. 

Glen Cornick, Jethro Tull. Played on the first three Tull albums, but "Replaced" cos he liked to party more than playing. When you consider how many albums and Tours Tull went to do its a comparatively small body of work for one of my all time favorite bassists. He played with a band called Paris but I never caught up with them. 

2 hours ago, Dr.Dave said:

Aldi were flogging a kids mini backpack for £3.99 and I got one to put my TC amp in. The leads go in the separate pocket. It's a bit...well...pink but who cares ! 

 

I also bought a mini tool kit there that fits in my gig bag and reflector sunglasses to play it.

 

Aldi - the musicians friend !

Agreed. I bought 3 pairs of cycling track mitts 9 years ago from Aldi, as they were stupidly cheap. Thinking If I get a year out of them I am quids in. 9 years later 2 pairs are still in regular service. 

13 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

How do instruments get like this? 

 

I'm not particularly precious about any of my guitars or basses and the ones I use regularly have all picked up a ding or two, but none of them are anywhere near the state shown on here and in the other thread linked. I've owned two basses that were a bit battered but both had got that way before I owned them, and one went straight back to the person who made it for a full refurbishment. That was 15 years ago and despite being my main bass for those past 15 years has not picked up anything like the damage it received in the 5 years before I bought it.

Because some people think a battered instrument looks cool, and by default will be vintage. 

The credit/money split is usually agreed between the band members, unless it is a solo artist session musicians. Or it could get ridiculous. "I decided to hit the cowbell on that beat, in that middle 8, soI want credit and more money." 

7 hours ago, Barking Spiders said:

Just wondering about big mistakes bands, individuals and companies have made especially when turning something down thinking it wasn't going to do much biz. The bloke who turned down The Beatles is probably the most obvious one. I just tuned into Planet Rock briefly and heard how Herbie Flowers was paid just £17 as a flat payment  for laying down the bassline to Walk on The Wild Side while Lou Reed must have been raking it in due to its often being sampled especially on Can You Kick It by a Tribe Called Quest, which is one of the best known and most played tracks in hip hop.

Walk on the Wild Side has an upright and an electric bass. Apparently when one slides up to the note the other slides down. Hence the sound. If you are a session musician you get the going rate. 

Almost the whole Yes back catalogue. And I love their music. 

40 minutes ago, Tim2291 said:

It would be amazing if being a musician was like any other person selling their time and it should be 100%. You wouldn't expect a building tradesman to turn up and work for "exposure" or even £50 and lets be honest, most gigging musicians who are trying to earn a living spent a lot longer practicing their trade than a builder does (not many builders start their craft before their 10th birthday)! Sadly a lot of the people hiring musicians are opportunistic snakes that want to exploit them for their own gain! It drives me insane when I see local bands accepting unpaid gigs, this takes the income away from those who rely on it!

You employ a trades person because you need something building, installing or fixing, and you pay accordingly. Listening to music is mostly done for pleasure, and a decision to spend disposable income. If you only had the money for one you would get your property put right, every time. Apples and Oranges really.