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[quote name='ironderby' post='1346687' date='Aug 20 2011, 08:34 PM']Okay so the head is: 4 ohms output power 2x500 rms into 4 ohms, the cab i would like is a 4x10 (4ohms) am i alright to connect them, will anything blow? thanks[/quote]

If you mean is it ok to connect the 2 outputs to a single cab, the answer is only if the amp is bridgeable. If it's not then you will blow something.

Edit: If you're talking about the LG1000 then it's not bridgeable, so to get maximum juice out of the amp you need 2 cabs rated at 4ohms each

You may find the pre-amp needs a fair bit of driving to get sufficient volume out of it if you're gonna be playing metal

[url="http://www.finnbass.com/showthread.php?t=7469"]User Review[/url]

This is the 350 version but AFAIK they have a common pre. Bearing in mind it has two O/P channels you would probably be better off with a pair of 2x10s

Also it is a different pre-amp to the MAG/ABM series so don't expect to get the Ashdown tone from it.

[quote name='Robert Manning' post='1335395' date='Aug 10 2011, 06:06 PM']what are grey imports?[/quote]

Unofficial imports. I was looking for a CS Jazz recently and some of the American dealers state on their websites that Fender forbids them from shipping new instruments abroad, presumably to protect the dealer networks abroad and to maintain the price structure.

I emailed a couple of them and they hinted that they would find a way to ship abroad anyway, so I expect this seller has an "arrangement" with someone over there to supply him with new basses

[quote name='Robert Manning' post='1335218' date='Aug 10 2011, 04:03 PM']Why would someone sell a new custom guitar though?[/quote]

I was thinking about buying off him. Had a couple of conversations with him and he seems decent enough.

He sells a lot of CS and AV reissues. I can only guess that they're grey imports. He describes them as new and I have no reason to doubt that but they are well below the price you would pay from a authorised dealer.

Or this

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=144229"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=144229[/url]

and these

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=149937"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=149937[/url]

The MAG stuff is as good as anything else on the market at that price point so if you like the Ashdown sound how about this.

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=149948"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=149948[/url]

A 2x10 is always going to struggle against 2 guitars and drums though, unless they play quietly.

[quote name='clauster' post='1332514' date='Aug 8 2011, 06:29 PM']Get in touch with Alex at Barefaced, he will be more than happy to point you in the right direction.[/quote]

Yes I did. It's partly his advice that's steered me away from the BB

Hmmm.. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree. In light of this and what Alex says I'd probably be better off looking at the S12 or Compact

Sigh. I was hoping for a bit more information than "Yes I've got one"

Never mind.

What amp do you use with it?

Isn't one enough? Why two Big Babys rather than the BB and the matching sub?

We could always do what the guy on Talkbass did.

Went to his local Home Depot (B&Q to you and me), bought a plank of wood, mounted the neck, pickups, bridge and all the rest of the hardware from his fancy bass made of "Tonewoods" onto the plank.

Then he recorded some sound samples and offered them up on the forum for a blind listening test and guess what... No-one could tell the difference.

[quote name='SlackAlice' post='1322086' date='Jul 31 2011, 12:26 PM']Angie (gullible )[/quote]

Not really. The main beef about Denmark Street seems to be the contemptuous attitude of the staff to customers who aren't famous rockstars. Judging by your experience that at least seems to have changed

THe Compact seems to be the best seller out of the Barefaced range but we don't hear a lot about the Big Baby.

The idea of the extra punch from that midrange driver appeals to me so I wondered if anyone is using one

[quote name='stevie' post='1321364' date='Jul 30 2011, 03:10 PM']I have to agree with Bill: Ashown's figures are pure fantasy. I've tested the driver in that box, measured its Thiel Small parameters and published its low end performance in an Ashdown cabinet on this forum. It has no low end to speak of - by which I mean below 100Hz - and it has a bad peak at around 100Hz, which is no doubt the boom that you were trying to get rid of. The MAG 15 may well be the cheapest 1x15 on the market, and it shows. If you were looking to add low end to a 4x10, it's not surprising you failed.[/quote]

I've never actually used those cabs. I haven't fallen for the "add a 15 for more low end" for many years. If I was in the OP's position I would get a 4x10, which is exactly what I was suggesting and my response to Bill's post was agreement. Jesus H Christ. You really are a piece of work.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='1321310' date='Jul 30 2011, 02:09 PM']Quoting it is one thing, backing the quote up with objective data is something else entirely. They don't. Not that Ashdown is alone on that point, as no manufacturers do so. In any event 'there's no such thing as a free lunch' remains the operative caveat. If the 115 does go 23Hz lower than the 410 that extension is obtained at the cost of sensitivity, so it would take two to four of those 115s to match the output of one 410.
One of the laws of acoustical engineering is that power demand doubles for each octave of lower frequency extension. That being the case the notion that a single fifteen driven with the same power as four tens can significantly add to the low end just doesn't add up.[/quote]

There ya go. So if you want more "Oomph" you need a 4x10

[quote name='stevie' post='1321210' date='Jul 30 2011, 12:02 PM']From what the OP has said, I’m not sure he wants more of the same: it sounds like he wants deeper lows. Adding another 4x10 won’t make any difference to the low-end extension. The only way of getting that is adding a cab that goes deep. I've no way of knowing whether the Peavy 15 will do that or whether it will be compatible. But it might, and I wouldn't discount it without trying it out first. Especially as money is tight.[/quote]

Then the aim of this discussion should be to define exactly what the OP means by "Oomph". I bet he wishes he hadn't asked now.

Ashdown quote an extra 23Hz of lowend for the MAG115 below the 4x10 so in theory the cab will produce 27Hz if the user were so inclined, but all I've found extreme low end to be useful for is creating lots of boom and window rattle and ensuring that I spend half the gig trying to EQ it out.

I bet our friend Jauqo 111X would love it though

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1321083' date='Jul 30 2011, 08:54 AM']Selling cars is the worst, We just sold a 56 plate Golf and the first bloke that came to look at it said it was for his son who was at uni. He liked it but explained to me that he wasn't sure about some stone chips which is fair enough but already allowed for in the price compared to others available on the net (which may all have stone chips too?) and the fact his son really wanted a four door instead of two? Now the add has a full description and many photos of the car yet he was using that as a bargaining point? afaik the 2 door model is all legit, it's not a four door with the doors welded up!

Easiest thing with basses is to not sell any, Just buy more [/quote]

+1 but at least selling on the internet you can just say no. With cars the tyrekicker in question is most likely round your house and being face to face adds an extra element of pressure

I was selling a Mondeo a few years ago and the usual "I know more about cars than you" bonehead turned up to look at it.

"This is wrong with it", "That's wrong with it", "it hasn't got all the usual Ghia features", It hasn't got a trip computer", " The injectors are leaking and are going to need re-seating" He says, pointing at the glow plugs.

At this point I'd already bought another car and I just wanted rid of the Mondeo. It was 10 years old with 180,000 on it, and the first person to offer me £200 would have got it (I advertised it for £400) but this fool wound me up so much I just told him to get lost.

I think I took £100 for it in the end

[quote name='stevie' post='1320901' date='Jul 29 2011, 10:13 PM']I think this is the first time I've seen anyone resorting to namecalling on Basschat.[/quote]

Let me put it another way without namecalling. I've found that a 4x10 produces more thump, thud, thunk, whump or whatever other unscientific name you call the sound bass players like than a 1x15. IME, YMMV of course.

I'm sure you can make a case why that extra 10 or so Hz of bass extension manufacturers quote makes all the difference.

The Troll's been gorging itself and.............

[quote name='stevie' post='1320884' date='Jul 29 2011, 09:49 PM']Yes, I've heard that too. You really would expect the opposite to be the case though. You'd expect the average 15" driver to go lower than your average 10" driver because of its lower resonant frequency and greater excursion.[/quote]

I used to have a pink bass. I think it's one of the very best colours, but there are some sad w***ers around who start giving you funny looks when you pull a pink bass out of a gig bag

[quote name='Benplaysbass' post='1320792' date='Jul 29 2011, 08:04 PM']Looking at the Ashdown 410 cab which is 8ohm, its 450 watt is the amp going to have the guts to run it. the cab ashdown recommend is only 250 watts.[/quote]

Should be Ok. I've used 4x10s rated higher than that which start farting out at half the manufacturers rating, and the Ashdown is a budget cab so I would be surprised if it'd handle 450 watts cleanly.

Don't pay too much attention to manufacturers ratings

[quote name='Benplaysbass' post='1320618' date='Jul 29 2011, 04:29 PM']Thanks for the replies, Hadn't thought about adding another 410 cab. I had thought that the 115 cab would give it the lows. I can get a new ashdown 410 cab out here for €250 so might give that some thought.[/quote]

If you like the sound you get now but want more of it then get another Ashdown 4x10. It's a misconception that a 15 will add lows as most 4x10s will produce just as much low end.

IME I've found mixing cabs with different driver sizes to give quite inconsistant results. Sometimes it sounded great, sometimes sh*te. It'll be a step into unknown territory and add other variables like room acoustics and EQ settings and it starts to get complicated.

[quote name='machinehead' post='1313076' date='Jul 22 2011, 06:43 PM']Just noticed this thread Dave.

Being a 1212L and Compact (and Midget) owner I'll chip in.

At absolute full tilt I think the 1212L will be slightly louder. But the loudness comes at the price of a mid-heavy tone and gets tiring on the ears I think.

The Compact is almost as loud but has a vastly more rounded tone and is a more pleasing sound. A Compact is a lot deeper than a 1212L, there's not much difference in size but the Compact is a lot lighter and an easier shape for carrying.

I would have no problem in choosing the Compact over the 1212L and the 1212L is a very useful gigging cab too as we both know well. It's just that the Compact is more versitile all round.

Frank.[/quote]

I made the same move myself, from 1212L to Compact. I can't really add anything to Frank's post except that the only application where I would favour the Schoeder over the Compact is where I'd be struggling to be heard over loud guitars and drums, but as I try and avoid bands like that now I have no use for the Schroeder.

I finally shifted the Schroeder in favour of the Compact when I started playing in a quieter band with a more sparse mix and I found the Schoeder mid honk too tiring. The fuller sound of the Compact just filled up the bottom end of the sound better.

I found the Musikmesse demo by Dan Gooday rather underwhelming. Ashdown could take a leaf out of TCE's book for publicity and keeping the hype going.

The fact that it delivers full power into 4 or 8 ohms is interesting and could be a good USP