The GroovyPlucker

thanks

Just now, Chienmortbb said:

You should be OK at 9V if the unit is designed correctly. The important things about pedal supplies is that the cheap ones (sub £30) don’thave isolated outputs. That is fine for most analogue pedals but digital pedals can send noise back down the power lines. 

Although the cheap power supplies say they are isolated, it actually means they have protection on each output.

 

so t-rex would be good then? certainly not a cheapy?

25 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

My EHX Enigma has its own 9.6V supply. It runs just fine on my 9V Voodoo Lab power block. It does require 180mA though so I run it off one of the 300mA sockets. 

ahh, that's exactly what i thought, put my mind at rest, Voodoo Labs are real expensive though, was thinking of the T-Rex series, nice small footprint, maybe get one before they dissapear as they're going outta business so I hear

3 hours ago, itu said:

The difference between 9 and 9.6 volts is just 7 %. It negligible. If you use more pedals and your EH needs just 125 mA, you can use the same output to other pedals, too. Just find a cable with two or three connectors.

you mean a daisy chain pedal for 3 pedals, then going into the brick at the 9v/500ma input? not sure why ehx ship a 9,6v power supply when it runs on 9v, maybe to give it some kinda safety net

Hi,

Just picking yer brains on this.

Just gone over to separate pedals after years of using multi fx units.

Have got a dilemma about 1 particular pedal, EHX Bass Mono Synth.

Runs at 9v/125ma, power adaptor is 9.6v for some reason.

I've seen a power block/brick thing that has 4-5 9v/100ma outs, plus a couple of 12v, usual, BUT HAS A just one 9v/500ma out, would the Mono Synth be ok to run through this, given it needs more Milliamps than your regular pedal, others I have are 9v and varying ma, all less than 100.

Also, seen lots of power blocks at varying prices, can't remember which one has the 9v/500ma out, what's your recommendations on a good one, then need to find a decent pedal board/bag/case etc, pedal train seem ok, again some cheaper one's around the net, not going massive budget, but not tat either,

Cheers

31 minutes ago, Leonard Smalls said:

The SYB5 is a bit limited... But having one of those made me decide I wanted a proper synth!

And it cost me £351 including shipping and tax. Don't know how long Mr Postie takes to bring it from Hungary though.

thought the boss pedal might be, that's pretty good all in from the EU, will try my EHX mono synth pedal first, if not successful  may jump up to the future impact...

24 minutes ago, Leonard Smalls said:

I hope that "FI is still king"...

I've just ordered one from Panda!

Now which of my pedals should I sell - 3 Leaf envelope filter? DOD envelope filter? FwonkBeta? Darkglass microtubes? Digitech Bass Whammy? Definitely Boss bass synth!

do you mind me asking how much it cost from Panda, it's about £350 on ebay from a seller in canada, similar prices from the US, also, is the Boss Synth pedal really that bad??

cheers again Quatschmacher, turning into my personal guru, d'ya reckon you could take a 3.5mm connector from the back of my pc's soundcard to the aux at the back of my mbass amp, wanted to try using the bass with the amp for rehearsing songs so I've a better idea of the pedal levels for full rehearsal later,

Cheers

Mark

Back again....

What's the best way to set up these 3 pedals coming my way.

EHX Bass Mono Synth, EHX Bass Soul Food (Overdrive), Boss TU-3 Tuner.

EHX say the Mono Synth should be the first in the chain, if so is this 1st pedal from the amp?

Same idea, what are your thoughts on the same scenario from my computer.

Starts with a soundblaster soundcard, into a Tapco mixing desk, then the 3 pedals daisy chained is how I run it, or will when they turn up.

Had this set up before with the Zoom B3 as last in chain from pc, trouble is when I used the unit with the amp at rehearsal it was way loud.

Maybe figure a way of setting up my amp n cab with headphones and figure a way of plugging the pc in via aux, I use a MarkBass Ninja 1000w head.

That way I should be able to keep the fx at the right level whilst blending in the song I'm rehearsing to from itunes.

AS YOU CAN TELL I'M NOT GREAT AT CABLING AND PATCHING, Found a system that works well with the bass into the pc so I can practice the covers I'm doing, but might need looking at again.

Your thoughts, as ever, would be most welcome,

Cheers, Mark

1 hour ago, Bassplucker2 said:

I too am interested in bass synth sounds. I have a Roland V-Bass pedal with the GK 3B pickup on my Yamaha 5 string.

I can't fault the tracking. Biggest problems are, a, the physical size of the pedal board and b, the limited sounds available. I have been looking at the Roland GR series to use the GK 3B pickup with but only the (hideously expensive, for what I want it for) GR55 accepts the GK 3B pickup. (I could be wrong here...)

Any one know of a compact pedal that will accept the GK 3B signal? I don't need all the bells and whistles, just useable sounds I can mix with the bass signal.

there's the boss sy-300 I was looking at, not sure if anyone's had any experience with this unit, no latency apparently....

sure, it's like anything, learn from experience of using, as i have done with Basses n cabs down the years from this brilliant resource, I really only appear on here when I'm buying or selling, but have found every user, buyer, seller to be magnificent, it's so important to a geographically isolated Bass Player to be kept in the know, if I was on the Mainland as "we" call it I'd at least have a chance to try b4 buy, but over here there's nowt, also nowt apart from rock n feckin country, if the last audition doesn't come about the synth bass has to wait a while... back on track...I do like the look of ehx, they're obviously aiming for boutique on a budget, which is what i am, but they seem to reach some plaudits for it, time will tell, have 2 of their pedals coming my way, we'll see how this Rabbit Hole ends up....

on a more serious note, i've never tinkered with effects that much, mainly cos I'm a bit too lazy to start tinkering with parameters etc, much more of a plug n play man, which the market likes of course, this 80's scenario i'm currently immersed in has forced my hand, in a good way, into getting some of that sound....pedals tho are a minefield, boutique, shabby chic....where does it end....oh, i know, declared bankruptcy....

cheers al, can I call you al, you can call meeee al......back on track.....when did we decide to have so much choice...be confused dot com.....sorry, i'm drunk....

buy it and post a video review, save me doing a dodgy one, what wi my playing n'all.....

22 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

You could buy it direct from Panda in Hungary if all else fails. Thomann had them in but seem to not stock them at present.

 

Cheers Quatschmacher, i'll have to come back to you on tips for set up if i do..........

Ah well, I'll give the EHX a run out and see where it goes, you guys have been a real source of info and inspiration, btw, does anyone where you can get the F1 cheaper than ebay, only one i can find is £350 in Canada, few in the states about the same, also can you run the octaver and effect at the same time in the F1? guess so as yer man just said he did...

that's true, still might invest on an octave pedal and do what yer man said there, or maybe the kidney, make pre gig drinks a bit diff tho...

3 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

There will be latency at the low end. It’s simple physics as it takes about 12ms to read half a waveform of a low E. Even the FI, brilliant as it is, can’t overcome that. The trick I use on the FI is to pitch it down an octave and play higher up, this halving the latency. 

bugger, I play whitney on a 5 string down a step too, see how we get on, might get an octave pedal as well, thanks for the info 

4 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

Don’t skimp on powering it. If it requires 120mA then make sure it gets it or you’ll have all sorts of weirdness happen (the presets are digitally controlled and will likely fail to work if underpowered). See if the One Spot powers enough. If not, a dedicated power box is a great thing. I waited far too long before getting one. 

By “daisy chaining” do you mean the power or do you mean audio signal order? If the latter, put the synth before the distortion as post filter distortion sounds cool and you could likely use it in conjunction with the synth. The other way round probably won’t be as useful as running the drive into the synth (if both are engaged) might mess up the tracking. 

it's actually 125ma, most 9v seem to go to 120ma, not sure it'd do in a 18v slot, would that be shoving too much voltage in it? the ma setting for 18v is higher than the 9v

sweating now, better not be any latency, otherwise you'll see it in the relevant for sale section, I'll then be selling a kidney to fund the F1 thing

Jeez, I hope there's no drag or drop out, the video demo seem to suggest not, it might be a while tho as I need them all to arrive, and get a decent power supply for them all, the ehx has it's own, 9.6v/125ma, it's the milliamps I'm struggling with as most 9v multi power adaptors only go as far as 120ma, not sure if the ehx would tip it over the edge.

well, I've gone and done it, got the EHX Mono Bass Pedal, along with an EHX Bass Soul & Boss TU-3 Tuner, just looking at a power supply for em all together, have seen the T-Rex but they're dear, plus the Mono Synth uses 125 milliamps, so not sure. What way would you daisy chain them? Tuner 1st from amp, then Bass Soul/Overdrive, then Mono Synth last, this is the pedal I reckon I'd use the most,

Cheers

Mark

7 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Bottom line is that most of us on this forum are bass players and not keys players and might not have any particular wish to take up keys. Sometimes that gets lost in this discussion. 

Synth bass was originally a way for bands to manage with just a synth and vocals. They would often have electronic drums too. Soft Cell would be a classic example. 

What we're talking about here is a 'normal' covers band that wants to add a bit of synth bass to a few tracks and has a bass player who is keen to do it. 

that's just it, agreed with the soft cell, just finished doing whitney/ i wanna dance with somebody, plenty of keys, bass is a bass synth, also looking to nail commodores/nightshift, know there's lots of discussion elsewhere on that one, might try emulate paul young/pino palladino, again, another long involved discussion for another day, but the likes of chaka khan, heaven 17, human league, plus many more, all can use a reasonably basic bass synth sound, not getting bogged down in individual nuances etc....

Looking to move on my Zoom B3. Has an official Mains PSU Adaptor, should have the original box and stuff somewhere, will take some actual photos asap, in fine condition, used at rehearsal only and in the house, price includes postage to UK only, unless you're close to Northern Ireland.

• 99 effects, including distortion, compression, modulation, delay, and reverb  
• 12 amp / cabinet models
• 3 backlit LCDs with contrast control  
• Intuitive user interface
• Ultra-fast (1ms) patch change speed
• Up to 3 effects can be used simultaneously, chained together in any order
• 100 memory locations for the storage of user-created patches
• 50 factory preset patches, including personally designed effects by Victor Wooten (Béla Fleck & the Flecktones), David Ellefson (Megadeth), Frank Bello (Anthrax), and Doug Wimbish (Living Colour)
• Store and Swap functions make patch organization a breeze
• Auto Save function for automatic saving of all patch parameters
• Onboard chromatic tuner supports all standard bass tunings, including open and drop tunings
• Looper feature for the recording of up to 40 seconds of CD-quality phrase recording
• 41 built-in rhythm patterns which can be used in conjunction with the Looper
• Easily integrated into any existing pedalboard
• Input jack accepts standard mono guitar cable
• Active/Passive switch   
• Dual output jacks for connection to amps or headphones
• Balanced XLR output jack with ground lift for DI connection (pre- or post-effect) to line-level devices, mixing boards, and recorders
• Control input for external foot switch or expression pedal
• Runs on 4 AA batteries, with alkaline battery life of more than 6 hours
• Included AC adapter
• USB port for bus power and firmware updates
• 2-in/2-out USB audio interface for PC/Mac computers
• Compatible with Zoom Edit&Share software

3 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

The future Impact has a built-in tuner and does distortion if that helps. 

Also worth pointing out that the FI is also a keyboard synth if you hook it up to a midi controller keyboard (like a Keystep).

just re-reading up on it, might be worth another look, oh jeez my bank account...