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All 3 sets I have bought have been almost identical in sound and feel. I wonder if maybe there's a difference in the way they're wound on the tuners? or whether the notches in the bridge are different sizes (or the nut, come to that). It's very easy to damage strings when fitting. All my experience of D'Addario strings is that the quality and tone is very reliable. BUT if there's no obvious problem with the bass or the fitting of the strings, I'd suggest you email D'Addario. Their customer service is first class, in my experience

Do people really worry about this stuff? I have 2 Aria SB1000's, a Wal and a Thunderbird. The Tbird is the lightest, but I've never been sufficiently bothered to weigh any of them, although the Arias are as heavy as anything I've ever played. The answer is almost always a wide, well-padded strap and try not to worry. It's another of those things some people use to justify endless swapping of gear - think of all those ads saying "fantastic bass, sounds amazing and plays like butter, but I need something lighter/heavier/passive/active/thicker neck/thinner nek/5 string/4 string/more like a P/more like a J/pointier/less pointy/cheaper......"

Well, in that case all the pro orchestral bassists I know and play with are being equally unrealistic. We all insure on the same basis. Up to you, no problem either way

I used Bel Cantos for a few years, but I'm now on my third set of Kaplan Light. I love them, they seem the right tension to make my bass come alive. Gorgeous rich and sweet tone all the way up to the rosin dust. Really great strings, very resposive and complex tone. D'Addario have really nailed it with the Kaplans

This is a red herring. If you're really bothered, buy a van. In legalese, the instrument being "unseen" is impossible to define and therefore almost irrelevant. If you put your bags and stool, music stand etc around it then cover the whole lot with a blanket, the instrument cannot be seen. Be sensible. Your bass is very very unlikely to be stolen from your car, and even more so if you cover it up. I'm comfortable that my bass is insured when it's in my car, just as anything else that is not in plain view is insured. 

I don't know of anyone who worries about this, even those with £30k or £40k basses leave them in their cars. It's not an issue as far as I'm aware, as long as you have cover for an unattended car.

On 18/01/2020 at 19:07, HumblePie said:

As I said, good for you, but playing the double bass means relying on a system of motions and thousands of hours of practice, so I would never sacrifice all that or even a small bit of that for an instrument which is so unfamiliar. Over the years, I had some basses converted and also the string lenght shortened, they sounded even better after restauration and were much easier to play.

That's exactly the point, isnt it? Basses vary so much anyway, what difference does it make? You wouldnt buy a bass based solely on string length, after all....

8 hours ago, HumblePie said:

If you like playing a bass with an Eb-neck, good for you. I personally would not play an Eb-neck or switch between D- and Eb-neck, it is better to have a certain system and stick with it. Basses with Eb-necks are a hard sell because most modern basses have D-necks, so most players start out with D-necks and want to keep it that way.

Most players start on basses with D necks, and have no idea how easy it is to switch. It takes about 5-10 minutes for my intonation to get secure again after switching. I bought a bass with an Eb neck, not because of that, but because I fell in love with the bass. I don't care that it makes it harder to sell, because it's never going to be for sale

On 17/01/2020 at 15:07, Malvis said:

I should print these words out and memorise them 😁

I have a big German carved bass, 44" string length, Eb neck, much like Nick's. Last year Martyn Bailey put a C-extension on it. It was a bit of a job because the fingerboard had been reshot a lot, and there wasn't much thickness to work with. Of course, he said, I could give you a new D neck and fingerboard, which would make the bass a lot more desirable, more durable, better all round.

I couldn't even nearly afford it, but for the last year or so couldn't help wondering, what if...?

This thread has helped me put that notion to bed, and get on with enjoying the beautiful bass I already have. Cheers Nick & Neil!

PS If you're thinking about a C-extension, give Martyn a call. His work is amazing. Apols for the thread drift!

Funnily enough, Martyn did my extension, a couple of years ago (maybe 3 years). Mine is a Barnaby mechanical extension which Martyn fitted, and a fine job he did of it. Great luthier, one of only two who work on my bass

Bring popcorn............

Now that's dealt with, I can start my crusade to stop people spending so much time and money worrying about strings....

The only issue I see with an Eb neck is that in most keys it makes the transition through to the thumb position slightly awkward for most people (by which I mean people brought up on a D neck!). My bass is an Eb, and like Nick's has a 44" string length. I find no real problem adjusting to a smaller bass with a D neck, apart from the aforementioned transition. It's part of the modern obsession with having EXACTLY what you think you want, rather than going with what you're given to some degree. Strings, pickups, bows, rosin, blah blah. Spend less time worrying about all of that, and D or Eb necks, and just play. Time spent playing will have far more effect on your musicianship than converting your bass to a D neck

I think I should point out, Allianz say that "the instruments must be concealed from view". When I asked if I could chuck a blanket over my double bass, the answer was "if its concealed from view, yes". Levels of cover vary widely, so make sure you check, but it's only fair that they ask you to minimise the risk. It is your gear, after all!!

Any fretless can be set up to do the mwah thing. Usually a combination of cutting the nut slots deeper and less relief. Don't overdo it with the truss rod though, or you'll choke the notes.

Yes. As has been said, it makes no difference, you can't see the lines, and you don't tune with your eyes...

There is a significant sum to be spent there - well into 4 figures, maybe even 5, depending on the condition of the bits we can't see (neck, back, rest of the ribs, blocks etc). It might have value, but equally it might be a Bohemian factory bass on an Italian model - not an English shape, not a Hawkes in my opinion. Risky purchase with no provenance

I love sounding like me, in general, but I would dearly love to be able to sound like this:

The song that brought the bass to my attention, aged 13. JPJ is still my favourite bass player, and probably, for me, the finest musician ever to work in rock and roll

Cover it with a blanket. 

On 23/12/2019 at 14:17, Jezyorkshire said:

I’ve had a quote for £100 for a value of £7000, does not include left unattended in a vehicle

I'd never buy double bass insurance that doesn't include cover in unattended vehicles

On 23/12/2019 at 15:13, Insure4Music said:

We're sure you deserve it! That's quite the collection you've got going, which one would you say is your favourite?

Of the bass guitars, the Wal is and always has been my dream instrument, But the double bass is special just because of it's age, patina and soul.

From memory, for  a value of approx 20k, I'm paying around 180 per year. Allianz

On 20/12/2019 at 10:29, Insure4Music said:

What's everyone's plans for Christmas? Is anyone planning on adding to their collection?

I bought myself a Christmas present (unplanned!) of a lovely 1980 Aria SB1000 fretless to go with my fretted version. I'd guess the value at £1k, more or less, which probably takes the total value of my gear to around £23k if I include the double bass and bows, amplification etc

On 06/12/2019 at 17:33, CamdenRob said:

Surely insurance is there to cover when your gear might get stolen? I don’t need cover for when it’s safely locked away 😕

Im not suggesting Insurance should cover me placing my Fodera outside the venue with a “please steal me” sign on it, but I will need it to be covered for situations that occur during the course of a normal gig  

I think all insurance companies will say the same thing, that you need to take reasonable precautions to secure your equipment when it's unattended. It's not reasonable to expect any insurance to cover equipment that is unattended in an insecure (unlocked) location. Man up and take some responsibility. Might mean you have to stay out of the bar. If we all make enough fuss, venues might start to provide this kind of facility.

Country music hasn't established itself in this country because it's the wrong country. The language, the harmonies, the cultural touchstones are not ours. Not to mention a lot of the instruments. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of country music, and thoroughly enjoyed this series, but it will never be mainstream here because it just doesn't connect in the way it does in the States.

Thanks, yes, I knew that, and they're both 1980, which is nice. I was just wondering if there is any finer detail to be had. Not the end of the world, I'm a player not a collector. The fretless will be getting a good setup and then be out on a stage in the South East very soon!