DanH71

Thanks Muzz. Thought I knew what I wanted but not so sure now! Compacts/super compacts and two 10s are quite rare it seems being barefaced gems and this was my first port of call. Am interested in the Aguilar gs112 and the potential to add a cab if needed at a later date, but just not sure 175w (-3db) is gonna cut it for me in a band situation.. Ahhh decisions decisions..

@xgsjx Here's the thing. People have said (and my understanding is limited) that running my 350w head at 4 ohms into a 8 ohm cab will half (I know this is no scientific ratio;) giving me 175w potential. Now I understand that watts are not equal to sound pressure but there seems a minimal reduction considering the decrease in power. If it is only 3db difference then it's no big deal..but would it be only 3db?

Thanks for the input guys, but getting a single 4ohm cab at present just makes sense. I want to hop on and off trains and buses without and don't want to give myself a hernia (even with trolley) and the stress. Secondly I live in a small apartment and I have no space for 2 cabs. I'm gonna be a 1 cab man (for now;)

@damonjames Appreciate the advice But like you say my mind will probably fluctuate a thousand times from one to another before I pull the trigger. Do like the look of barefaced two 10 though (500w but can be pushed harder) lightweight and is 4 ohms so I could draw all of the juice from my head;)

@NJE Good to hear your experience with the TH350 and a 4 ohm cab. Will be sure to look out for a GS212 or perhaps a barefaced two ten(14kg!!!): http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/retro-two10.htm Thanks for the Insight!

I know too well. I'm getting on a bit and lightweight and singular is what I need. Think I'm gonna wait for a barefaced compact. Although they too are 8 ohm but have a higher wattage and apparently the impedence mismatch with that gear is not such a big deal.

@Damonjames solid idea but I don't drive so I want a 1 cab solution that is as light as can be if possible (I know barefaced;)

Now I've called him 'rabbit'. Sorry rabbie, bloody predictive text. @ambient so there you were never in any danger of blowing the cab up with the th350s output?

Just noticed I said rabbit has an amp for sale ... To clarify he doesn't. I own a th350 head (4 ohm) and he is selling A gs112 (8 ohm 300w).. If it's only gonna draw 175w from the head then It's probably not enough power for me alas. Guess I will wait for a 4ohm version to come available or some barefaced gem..

That low. Then I think it may be insufficient for my needs;( The guitarist and drummer aren't old jazzers!

Hi need advice as per the title. Rabbie from basschat has an amp for sale that he is willing to hold for me until i get paid, but im not sure if its the amp for me. I play in a trio playing jazz/funk/rock fusion with a guitarist who likes the limelight but who has thus far [we are only rehearsing at present] played through a single fender 12 inch. the drummer is busy but not overly loud. we will play small to medium gigs. Ive heard that the tonehammer 350w actually if alguilar used the power rating of other manufacturers would be punching a considerable bit higher thatn the 350 rating [have seen estimates of 500 -650w] the th350 is also 4 ohm and rabbies cab is 8 ohm. so not only would I be potentially loosing ooomph;) due to the impedance difference but what is more I may be in danger of blowing the thing up by pushing to myuch power to the cab... is my thinking right? so, to recap, ive two questions 1. will this setup be sufficient for such gigs [considering the impedance mismatch] and 2. am i likely to blow the cab to bits if i ramp up my master control? cheers Dan

[quote name='ZilchWoolham' timestamp='1499379136' post='3331240'] Well, the good news is that the reason a Wal sounds like a Wal is 99% because of the pickups and electronics. The bad news is that there's no way you're going to get that from a J pickup. A Wal pickup is a massive ceramic magnet humbucker with two coils for each string, as compared to your regular J pickups which will have one coil (two if noise-cancelling) for the entire pickup. I know there is at least one pickup maker who does offer Wal style pickups; I believe they're called Bassculture, and I know Maruszczyk offered their pickups as options a while ago. I can't tell you how close they'll be to the real deal, but on paper they do sound very convincing. Of course, that's only one part of the Wal sound. If you're looking for the Mk series sound, you'll need a filter-style preamp. ACG makes one which should probably land you in that general area. Thankyou!!!!!! [/quote]

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1499374622' post='3331197'] Sorry i meant 9J1's [/quote] yeh thanks! Realised the error after posting. Will try to find a decent YouTube clip of these being used fingerstyle.

[quote name='DanH71' timestamp='1499374559' post='3331196'] So you think the NJ1's above the original suggestion of 9cbjs /or 9j1s? Thanks for the help guys! Will check out the NJ1s now. [/quote] Can't find NJ1 from a bartolini or google web search?

[quote name='DanH71' timestamp='1499374311' post='3331193'] Thanks for the suggestion. Will check them out. Not really at the diy stage with installing preamps etc but will keep it in mind. I just wouldn't know where to begin.. [/quote] So you think the NJ1's above the original suggestion of 9cbjs /or 9j1s? Thanks for the help guys! Will check out the NJ1s now.

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1499373967' post='3331187'] Sounds to me you would like the 9CBJS for the single coil option. Or for the split coil 9J1's. Both are from Bartolini's CB (Classic Bass) series of pickups. They are overwound for punchy low/mid/less highs. You can adjust your highs from the Aguilar. No glassy highs. I would say most good pickups will give you that tone, some better than others. I would also say that putting in a drop straight in Audere preamp will accentuate the pickups amazingly. Ive put one in a Fender and it was quite an amazing tone [/quote] Thanks for the suggestion. Will check them out. Not really at the diy stage with installing preamps etc but will keep it in mind. I just wouldn't know where to begin..

[quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1499373574' post='3331183'] Without wanting to get too patronising, that tone is probably already available in your jazz. String it with some SS rounds, back off the neck pup and play over the bridge pickup. [/quote] No, I get that, but was looking for a pup that did that and added the potential warmth and richness of a wal 'type' sound minus the expensive exotic woods and expensive hardware and name;)

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1499372255' post='3331172'] Yes, they'll fit OK, it seems. As to a 'Jaco' sound, any Jazz will get somewhere there with adequate strings, a nice amp and reasonably competent playing. A 'Wal' sound would be a different kettle of fish; I don't think that there's much short of a Wal for that, but could be wrong. Not sure if any of this helps much; the real answer's a lemon: suck it and see. [/quote] Thanks. Appreciate that it's to some large degree trying stuff out, but pups ain't cheap and I'm not rich so doing as much research as possible is favourite for me. Dissapointed in fact that the Bart website does not iffwr some kind of audio clip for their jazz replacement pups. Also get the Wal sound being the fact that it's the sum of its parts but that aside I would like the warmth and richness of those pups , obviously filtered through my guitars wood, hardware and body etc..

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1499372744' post='3331175'] Do you just want a Jaco tone.? [/quote] No in time I would like my own..however for now I would like a set of passive pups That will give me the closest match to his (amp,neck,fingertips and strings aside;)

Yes it would. Here are the dims of my existing pups (fender jazz single cool types in lowline Chinese Tokai) http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/DanH1971/media/IMG_2006_zpsp300zzoa.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2 And a pair of fitting bartolini pups that I 1st looked at that seem to fit: http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/DanH1971/media/IMG_2008_zps6qokzczx.png.html?sort=3&o=1 Not sure on whether the 9j can offer me the wal'esque and jaco bridge bite that I have previously mentioned.?

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1499361466' post='3331041'] It says in the clip that these are P46 p/ups. Isn't that close enough information for what you're after..? A search on the Bartolini site brings up all the variants of that p/up. [/quote] It's for a six sting. FYI a search of 'bartolini p46 4 string brings up the following result as a top hit in google (again it's for six string): https://www.bartolini.net/product-tag/p46/ I see no 4-string equivalent (by name anyway) on the bartolini site, perhaps you would be kind enough to post that link?

[quote name='BassBod' timestamp='1499358783' post='3331019'] Yes, the passive output is down a bit, so a gain increase at the preamp (assuming your amp has one) compensates perfectly well...I just notice it compared to my other passive basses. Most of the time I use a Sansamp or Sadowsky preamp anyway. I put the Barts in mainly because they don't hum, and were used, so a lot cheaper than any of the modern hum cancelling designs. I also rate the DiMarzio Model J humbuckers...not as refined as the Barts, but a great low mid honk - if I played in a loud setting often, they would be my first choice. [/quote] Cheers for the dimarzio tip Bassbod! I have just bought a alguilar Tonehammer 350 which I believe has a preamp section: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/aguilar-tone-hammer-350-bass-amp-head So as for the barts 9j set, I found this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/bartolini-9j1-jazz-bass-pickup-set They do mention the 94j have a deeper (less bright bridge) so don't know if they would suit better..

[quote name='BassBod' timestamp='1499357221' post='3331006'] I've got some old (1980's) Barts in a Jazz bitser -they are humbuckers, and I'm guessing they are classic 9J's in the current line up. They do the J bass thing very nicely, but are a touch more refined than single coils with exposed poles. They are also pretty low output, without any internal preamp, so that is something to consider. [/quote] This is the thing.. If the pups have low about can you not compensate for this fact by upping your amp? So I'm guessing classic pups from bartolini will offer up a warmer/richer tone than the original series?