pfretrock

2 hours ago, Geek99 said:

He means get a long thin strip and turns the ends over so copper, not glue, meets copper, and any potential areas of poor conductivity are removed 

The electrical version for electro magnetic shielding has conductive adhesive. I would not think the gardening people have the tape made for them, they just source the mass produced electrical variety.

11 hours ago, Dad3353 said:

One often overlooks the distinct advantage of using kitchen foil aluminium, in that it keeps sharks at bay. I offer as proof having a roll of the stuff in our kitchen, and we have no sharks there. 

Also useful for lining hats and underpants in case of nuclear attack.

15 hours ago, Ed_S said:

 

I use aluminium tape and it's the same deal, but I've found that wearing a disposable cotton glove (like the ones antiques assessors use) on the hand that I primarily use for pressing down the tape makes the job a lot less painful all round.

Before you go crazy trying to get the backing paper off copper or Ali tape, hold tape between finger and thumb with a corner sticking out then flick corner back and forward with finger nail. The backing at the corner will soon release.

It is all in the fingers, slap will not work.

And aluminium does not solder, so don't try. Never had a conductivity problem with overlapped tape. And avoid that black conductive paint, you see it on some guitars, presumably it is cheaper and quicker than tape but if you get it on the body it's hard to remove.

16 hours ago, Dad3353 said:

 

Yes, of course, but it's worth it for the Earl Grey alone, with biscuits the cherry on the cake (just an expression of course; I don't have cake on hand...). Still, given 15 hours notice, I could bake one. Hmm, where's my egg whisk and flour..? 

Throw in some Roquefort and I'll join in and bring scissors to cut the tape.

17 hours ago, EssentialTension said:

 

 

I thought he said Kenny Burrell.

I thought he said Rory Gallagher.

38 minutes ago, nilorius said:

I think there is no nr. one bassit existing. If You will make a top 100 of them - everybody has it's own unique technique and style. Let's say who is better - Gary willis or Marcus Miller - impossible. Their music differs so much and all of my respect to each of them.

Quite right. Hendrix knew who the nr. one guitarist was.

13 hours ago, pfretrock said:

Try Stravinsky's Octet. A very unusual combination of instruments.  I believe he said the idea came to him in a dream, though I can't find a reference to it. Maybe on a record/CD sleeve?

I'm glad I posted this as it reminded me I had a cassette recording of this taken from Radio 3, from the late 80's. I lost the tape over the years and searched for another recording. Eventually found one by a US orchestra.  Is anyone else annoyed when a favourite recording is interpreted even slightly differently by the conductor/arranger? A search on Youtube has found my lost recording!

On 11/01/2023 at 16:40, BassTractor said:

 

- Stravinsky: Firebird Suite  and/or The Rite of Spring. Part of the Firebird has been used by Yes as intro music to their gigs, so may be known,

 

Try Stravinsky's Octet. A very unusual combination of instruments.  I believe he said the idea came to him in a dream, though I can't find a reference to it. Maybe on a record/CD sleeve?

On 11/01/2023 at 16:40, BassTractor said:

 

- the Bartok mentioned earlier. Bartok had an immense impact on Keith Emerson,

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Emerson was well known for using classical pieces and not giving credit (Janáček and Bartok on ELP's first album).  This was later credited on the CD releases. He hot-footed to Argentina to seek approval for the Brain Sald Surgery Toccata based on the (still alive) Ginastera's composition.

Diary of an empty day by The Nice is based on a classical piece by Edouard Lalo, uncredited on the vinyl.

Still.... I miss him.

13 hours ago, fergs40 said:

I always feel a bit sad throwing cut silk-wrapped string ends into the bin - they’re very pretty.

 

Has anyone come up with any uses for them, practical or otherwise?

 

Are you in a Glam Rock/Goth fusion band?

3 hours ago, Dad3353 said:

 

I found it very easy to resist. 

 Me also, never got to their gig due to fog.

On 17/01/2023 at 17:00, Dad3353 said:

 

Here's the Sandy Denny rendering...

 

 

Backstory..?

 

'A beautiful and moving song. Richard Thompson said it was about the deaths of his girlfriend, Jeannie Franklyn, and the band’s drummer, Martin Lamble in a van crash in 1969. The bruised and beaten sons is a jocular reference to Martin’s drums. Jeannie was a successful dressmaker which explains the reference to cutting of cloth. Drinking the light is probably some sort of ceremony, perhaps marriage, and swearing a year probably refers to the standard feudal Morganatic trial marriage contract of a year and a day. Thompson appears to be lamenting that Jeannie can no longer make a commitment to him or any other mortal but she perhaps jocularly suggests the only one of them now available to her is Martin who also lies dead beside her. Then the cold North wind beckons the minstrels back on the road.'

Do you think Mattacks was emulating Martin's style (one of many)  in this track as a tribute? Wd like a drummer opinion, is it my imagination?

(Sorry for the continued folky thread hijack - I am a huge prog fan of ELP, Yes, Rush and others over the other side - Allman, Dead, Doors, Airplane, blab,blab... ). The last time I saw Emerson, he said prog would never die. So there you go.

2 hours ago, Dad3353 said:

 

These lyrics are by Richard Thomson, as it happens; I agree that Ms Denny had more than just a great voice.
Off the subject, but Martin Lamble was my first inspiration for playing drums, having listened to the eponymous first album. Sober, tasteful; spot on for the genre. A sad loss.

Indeed. "He would of had a great life" - Simon Nicol, Cropredy,  two thousand and something.

On 17/01/2023 at 17:00, Dad3353 said:

 

Here's the Sandy Denny rendering...

 

 

Backstory..?

 

'A beautiful and moving song. Richard Thompson said it was about the deaths of his girlfriend, Jeannie Franklyn, and the band’s drummer, Martin Lamble in a van crash in 1969. The bruised and beaten sons is a jocular reference to Martin’s drums. Jeannie was a successful dressmaker which explains the reference to cutting of cloth. Drinking the light is probably some sort of ceremony, perhaps marriage, and swearing a year probably refers to the standard feudal Morganatic trial marriage contract of a year and a day. Thompson appears to be lamenting that Jeannie can no longer make a commitment to him or any other mortal but she perhaps jocularly suggests the only one of them now available to her is Martin who also lies dead beside her. Then the cold North wind beckons the minstrels back on the road.'

Thanks for the backstory Dad, I've often analysed Sandy's lyrics as it is often about someone. Never thought or read of this just enjoyed her voice. Poignant.

2 hours ago, Boodang said:

EMG active pickups have so few windings their output needs boosting with a built in preamp (hence the active part and the need to power them). They do this because the fewer the windings (and thus less resistance) the greater the bandwidth. 

An active EMG pickup will have much stronger content above 3 to 4K than a passive pickup with enough windings to have a strong enough output to not need a preamp boost. 

This of course is a bit of a simplification, as mentioned before, there are many other factors involved not just the amount of windings.

Of course, having tons of bandwidth is not necessary a good thing, as it depends on the tone you want. I used to use EMG pickups and then use a lot of eq to get the tone I wanted... cut the treble, boost some high mids etc. Now I try to get the tone as close as I can at source, ie the pickup. Hence for my Jazz i got some custom single coil pickups made with alnico5 magnets for the neck (for more lows) and alnico2 for the bridge for more mids. For my Sei I got a Bartolini MM made. As a humbucker it has less highs but it's punchier in the lows. 

When I look for a pickup I'm less interested in the resistance than I am the magnet type, single coil vs humbucker, and series/parallel options.

This makes a lot of sense. I was geeky enough to measure the inductance of a Seymore Duncan SPB-3. It was 7 Henries which is typical for a bass pickup with a lot of wire (more turns  = more inductance, and more resistance). This forms a low pass (treble cut) filter in conjunction with the resistance value  (12.5k). I'm not sure why SD quote resonance (10.2kHz) as it is far out of range of a bass , so any peak would be lost due to the low pass effect. There is some data on inductance somewhere for some PUs but adding more wire (more resistance and therefore "hotter output ?" also increases inductance.) There must be a trade off on adding wire to get more output and loss of treble due to added inductance.

If you have ever re-wired a series neck humbucker (I had one on a cheap SG copy) because it was too muddy and then wired it in parallel, the inductance drops by a factor of four, you only get an output drop of half (2 coils now in parallel) at the low pass end, and the treble range increases significantly. (by treble range I mean the point at which treble starts to drop off due to the low pass effect of the resistance/inductance). This is the easiest explanation of the effect of inductance I can think of without getting too complicated and geeky. In this case the pickup response rolled off at around 280Hz rather than 140 Hz before re-wiring.

If anyone wants to measure inductance (don't all rush!) there is a way of doing it with 2 bits of free software (a signal generator and an oscilloscope) a known capacitor (around 2nF) and a DAW interface. A Focusrite works fine. Not all oscilloscope software works as there needs to be no phase shift between the 2 channels. You have to disconnect the PU also!

We got ths far without mentioning  inductance.

On 09/01/2023 at 20:21, Smanth said:

I’m working my way through this one at present.

S’manth x

 

I had a go at this a while back but did not get very far. I love the whole series. If you can, check Glen Gould's piano recording of this, he recorded the 24 in 1963 and again a decade later. Listen to the delicate change in articulation and stacatto in the right hand, you won't listed to anyone else play it after that!

23 hours ago, Smanth said:

For setting up my first time I followed the approach in these videos by Elixir, which are really clear (sadly in imperial measurements).  Having said that, I have tweaked things a bit in string height to allow for my playing style.

 

Imperial measurements? Now't wrong with those. I heard Jacob Ree-Smogg is a real hot player, he has a 1847 Fender Nanny. You would not believe the road wear on it.

15 minutes ago, Dad3353 said:

One measures string height..? 

Gave up after a while, now adjust for playability. Suggested figures don't seem to be ideal.

Measure relief at fret 7.

Johnny Winter with Willie McTell's Broke Down Engine. From The Progressive Blues Experiment. Almost the best album I bought in 1970. Most other tracks have Tommy Shannon on bass.

6 hours ago, Downunderwonder said:

Ricks have neck joints? News to me. 

Usually done to reduce costs. Who knew?

I've been staring at that for 5 minutes now, looks like perpetual change.

On 20/12/2022 at 14:54, BlueMoon said:

I’ve found stickers by the brand Jockomo to be the best for this purpose. 

 

I contacted the Jockomo guy a few years ago. I asked for rosewood dots so I could cover up the originals and put on new dots where I'd shortened the scale with a capo. He replied "Learn how to play".

I later found out he started his business after being asked to play a guitar with no markers. Huh!

Jockomo stickers are good btw.

3 hours ago, Burns-bass said:

I thought it was hard but I’ve done 12 out the door and none back in and it’s all working out wonderfully.

 

No more cases everywhere, wife happy, bit of cash (err, a lot of cash - all of which has been saved for 2023 and the craziness). 
 

I also have the money here if I ever see something I really want.
 

 

1. Always hold on to an empty case so you can sneak one in.

2. Keep one hanger empty. Rotate the hanging basses for obfuscation, makes it easier to sneak in on NBD.

9 minutes ago, Smanth said:

I am going to have to use (steal) that!

 

S'manth x

We all know GAS makes the world go round.