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[quote name='GreeneKing' post='421768' date='Feb 28 2009, 03:56 PM']Kinda depends on the material you're playing I suspect?

Me I prefer a barky lower mid tone to a woolly rumble but there are some songs it suits.

Les Claypool would hardly sound good with a dub tone (Although he'd sound a lot better than me)[/quote]

I kinda suspect he'd hardly sound any worse.

Flite cabs are made in the US, very light weight (that's why they're called f....lite).
[url="http://www.flitecabs.com/"]see here[/url]

I have the 1x15 and I wonder - is anyone else in the UK using them, or am I the only one?

I like it extra deep, I don't need treble or middle or bridge pups or tweeters or new strings.
Bass means bass

Sizzle my arse................

I have a mag115 and I love it, I think it's very underated after comparing it to a few more expensive cabs.
I haven't tried the ABM, but this one sounds smooth and deep and it's not too heavy either.

[quote name='bass_ferret' post='415888' date='Feb 20 2009, 11:41 PM']But the big fat old bass sound is just the twist of a knob away if I want it [/quote]
Gwaan twist dat knob man........

[quote name='alexclaber' post='415724' date='Feb 20 2009, 07:47 PM']But if you do have an amp with ooomph(tm) few can deny the joy of a big fat old bass sound!

Alex[/quote]
Good point Alex - well made

Bottom end is what bass is all about and when I hear twangy hi-fi bassists, it makes me wonder why they play bass at all.
I know it's easy to make a bass sound trebley and clever marketing has made it desirable, while deep bass is a greater engineering challenge requiring more power and intelligent design, but there's nothing like the feel of deep fat bass - who feels it knows it.

[quote name='Maxcat' post='415207' date='Feb 20 2009, 12:47 PM'][/quote]
You're not being paranoid and you shouldn't be ashamed of wanting to look after your hard earned gear.

So why not keep the input gain at a level where nothing lights the clip light - then you can chillax and if the gain is a bit low for some basses, so what - different players can use the output level to adjust their volume.

Or just tell the ungrateful git with the loud bass to bring his own amp next time

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='414520' date='Feb 19 2009, 05:11 PM']So I could just buy two 2x10's and forget about the hard hat...result![/quote]
Better still - get a 1x6 and keep it under your hard hat

[quote name='Linus27' post='414102' date='Feb 19 2009, 12:10 PM']Sorry if I have opened up a can of worms with my original question. Still not sure to go for a 2 x 10 or 1 x 15 [/quote]
I love the can of worms - it's what makes basschat so interesting.

As to the answer to your original question - go for another identical 15 and buy it used so it will keep it's value.
Everyone here agrees that is the sensible scientific and cosmetic solution.
I got mine from this forum for £60 and there's always one or two on ebay under £100.
It's not going to surprise you, because you already know what it sounds like.
It will give simply you more of the same and you can leave it at home for small gigs and practises.

Now where can I find more worms..........................

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='413766' date='Feb 18 2009, 11:45 PM']OK, how many 1x8 or 1x6 w/high pass filtering did you try along with 1x15s w/low pass filtering? When the question posed is whether a top and bottom cab combination have been optimally engineered to acoustically complement each other those options would have to be made available to the consumer. They aren't. The options that are offered are only matched in cosmetics and footprint.
Your response is to a different question entirely, that being whether you can run a 2x10 and 1x15 together with an acceptable result. Obviously the answer is yes. Whether it's the best possible sounding option one could only say if you could try the above mentioned 1x8/1x15 or 1x16/1x15 with appropriate crossover, but you can't, so you'll never know.
As for Alex's perceived concessions to the conformity game, I'm sure that they will never include a 2x10 to be used with a 1x15, nor a 2x10 with horizontally aligned drivers, nor a 4x10, period. He knows better, and that's more than you can say for the usual sources.[/quote]

Thanks for the advice, but I can't help think that when you make suggestions for the 'best possible sounding solution', you are not taking into account the differences in subjective tonal requirements.
My preference is for 2 separate 15" cabs, although I find a vertical 2x10 used with a 15 works fine too and I use a single 15 or 2x10 for small gigs and practises.
It's my personal choice after months of trial and error and it works for me, but I'm not an average player in that I don't like any treble or upper mid range in my sound, just smooth, deep bass.
I look forward to trying a 1x8 or 1x6 cab (if can you tell me where to find one) with one of my 15s as you suggest, meanwhile I'll stick to the 2 15 drivers that Alex recommended.
If the 1x8 or 1x6 works better than the 2x10 or single 15 as you predict, I will be very happy because it will be a lighter and smaller box.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='413649' date='Feb 18 2009, 09:47 PM']How many 2x8 or 2x6 cabs with vertically aligned drivers and high-pass filtering were you able to test matched up with a 2x15 with low pass filtering?[/quote]
Why would I try a 2 x 15 when I'm looking for lightweight cabs?

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='413431' date='Feb 18 2009, 05:53 PM']Your reply is the proof of the proverbial pudding. Cab manufacturers build what sells, what sells is what the consumer thinks 'looks right', and what 'looks right' is what they're used to. Since virtually every manufacturer turns out the same cookies using the same cookie cutter the opportunity for the average player to hear a superior product simply does not exist. And no manufacturer, save a small entity like Alex with his barefacedBass cabs, is going to invest in the R&D and tooling for a superior product that won't sell because it doesn't 'look right', especially when same old same old continues to go out the shop doors.[/quote]
Your proverbial pudding tastes like sour grapes to me and I beg to differ.
People often use their ears as well as their eyes when choosing gear and I did not choose my rig because it looks right.
I tried a lot of cabs and combinations regardless of looks and found the single 15 and 2 x 10 cabs work well together and make a sound that I'm very happy with, although two 15s are my preference.
I'm not alone in this choice and it's not because we are all blindly following fashion.
I made my choice of cabs based on personal preferences of sound, size, weight and price, with looks at the bottom of the list.
I don't think Alex's cabs are so far removed from other designs that they won't sell because they don't look right.
More likely, most people will choose mass produced cabs because they are less expensive, sound great and have the back up of an established company.

[quote name='Mr.T' post='413353' date='Feb 18 2009, 05:10 PM']Hmmm..... Strange.

My Trace 1x15 farts at lower volumes than my Aggie.
And the Aggie seems to go much deeper.[/quote]

The driver in my trace cab is a 1985 200 watt Fane studio B and it goes much deeper than the Aggie.
Put an Eminence kappalite 3015LF in any half decent cab and it will go way lower than the aggie IMO.

[quote name='Linus27' post='413041' date='Feb 18 2009, 01:44 PM']The fact that I have the treble dial turned to full on my MAG 300H head, makes me think the 2 x 10 might be a good idea. My only worry is I don't want to thin the sound out to much. Plus it will be sitting on top of the 1 x 15 and will be at ear level and might sound too thin or trebly.[/quote]
Don't worry about thinning the sound out, that's unlikely to happen and if it does you can turn the treble down on the amp.
Have you tried reducing the bass eq rather than increasing the treble?
Cutting instead of boosting eq can be very effective and more natural sounding - just a thought.
Another thought - it's a good idea to listen to cabs from a distance of at least 15 feet as well as close up as the sound can be very different and more like what the crowd hears when there's no PA.

[quote name='Mr.T' post='413074' date='Feb 18 2009, 02:10 PM']I am surprised you didn't get on with the Aguilar... I am finding my GS112 (No tweeter) to be 'bassier' than my Trace 1x15.[/quote]
I suppose these things are subjective and it depends how low you wanna go.
I found my old trace 15" combo much 'bassier' than the Aguilar, which I thought was middly with no real depth.
The Aguilar GS112 is the favourite cab of a friend of mine, but when I tried it I nearly blew it up!
My sound is very deep and the driver was popping and trying to jump out of the cab above moderate volume levels.
I really wanted it to work for me as it obviously does for you and lots of other people, but it wasn't to be.
The upside is that the Ashdown mag115 is much cheaper, not much heavier and goes a lot deeper.

[quote name='Linus27' post='407525' date='Feb 12 2009, 12:47 PM']I have an Ashdown 300H MAG amp and an Ashdown 1 x 15 speaker. I am going to add an Ashdown 2 x 10 to it. What sort of difference will adding this 2 x 10 make to my overall sound? Fatter or more treble or punchier or not much difference?

Thanks[/quote]

I have an Ashdown mag115 deep cab which I use with a compact Hartke 2 x 10 loaded with Ashdown drivers.
The combined sound is not radically different to either cab on it's own, just louder.
The 2 x 10 is almost as deep as the 15 and sinilar in volume level, they work nicely together if you like a smooth deep sound.
The Ashdown 2 x 10 you are looking at probably has a tweeter which mine doesn't, so you could expect more top end.
I have the 15 underneath the 2 x 10, with the 2 x 10 placed vertically for maximum dispertion.

I use two 15s in separate cabs for ease, flexibility and sound.
One is a compact Flite cab loaded with an Eminence 3015LF and it must be the lightest 15 cab in the world at an incredible 10 kilos - that's f......lite!
I use this on it's own for practises and small gigs and it's surprisingly deep and punchy for it's size, thogh obviously not as deep as a larger cab.
The other cab is an Ashdown mag115 deep which adds extra depth and volume for bigger gigs and is still not mad heavy at about 20 kilos.
I tried many other cabs before arriving at this set up in my search for lightweight deep bass and the two 15s work best for me, although I also have a compact Hartke 2 x 10 loaded with Ashdown drivers which sounds very deep and smooth and also weighs about 20 k.
I haven't liked any of the many single 12" cabs I tried, much as I wanted to. None of them were happy with my deep dub tone.
It's taken a year of trying different combinations of cabs to get 'my' sound from a lightweight rig and I bought all 3 cabs on this forum, where I have also had excellent help and advice from people who know a lot more than me about such matters, (they know who they are).
The main lesson I learned is that everyone has a different view of the perfect sound and the only way to find yours is to tust your own ears.

Thanks for all the positive comments, I'm feeling quite the groovy dubmeister now !
It's all simple stuff, a lot easier than other styles and probably boring to more technical players.
It's all about feel and the interplay with the other musicians and when it works and the crowd is digging it too, there's no better buzz.
I always put our gig dates on myspace and if anyone from this forum wants to attend, let me know and I'll put you on the guest list if I can.
Also, we're always looking for gigs if anyone fancies a reggae party.............

[quote name='molan' post='409248' date='Feb 14 2009, 09:12 AM']Listening to you right now - Welsh dub, good stuff here, liking it a lot [/quote]

Thanks man - all tracks recorded live in my front room so ruff & ready (just like me).

I've been playing nothing but reggae for 30 years - it's a spiritual thing and a direct route to the soul.
It's a music you feel with your heart rather than hear with your head and who feels it knows it.
To all those bassists who wish they were in a reggae band I say - form one now, today's dream is tomorrow's reality.
The sheer quantity of incredible Jamaican music over the past 40 years is unbelievable for a small 3rd world island and the message has spread all over the world with great new roots bands in every country.
It's influence is heard in most poular music from punk to rap and while never mainstream, it appeals to a wide range of people, unlike most other genres.
It's positive and uplifting with a message of one love and unity - what's not to like?
[url="http://myspace.com/redstriper"]You can check my band here.[/url]
One Love.

[url="http://www.dv247.com/invt/61700/"]this should do the job[/url]

Would you consider a trade for a nearly new epiphone EB-0 plus cash?

Mine was in a combo, so it might not be the same, but this is how I did it -
The front panel should pull out when you've unscrewed the 4 rack screws.
This is the pre-amp which connects to the power amp via some cables which are connected to a simple plug.
Unplug this and you will have the pre-amp isolated.
To remove the power amp unscrew the 3 screws in the top and 2 screws at the back of the case and push the power amp out through the front.
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I wish it was a 22" scale, then I really would be interested, even a 30" short scale would be nice.
My main bass is an 18" scale Ashbory.

[quote name='dannybuoy' post='372249' date='Jan 6 2009, 05:56 PM']Alex's cabs sound (on paper) amazing, this idea is a way of putting together a poor man's Compact without woodworking skills[/quote]

That was exactly my idea - I got the mag 115 cab for £60 and replaced the driver for the 3015 LF for a total cost of £170 with a spare blueline driver and weight under 20kg.

It has the magic 3 Ls - Loud, Light and Low with a bonus 4th - Less (dosh).

I intend to replace the cab with one of Alex's when funds allow.