That's great thanks Dan, I don't normally opt for Boss pedals but this year I am having some Bossness on the board, maybe because I am singing and playing I find them pedals easier to tap so I don't have to look down. I also like the designs of Boss effects and find shaping them very simple as the controls are in the same place. I would dearly love to find either a Boss PQ-3B or Boss PQ-4 but there doesn't seem to be many about, I will hunt about, thanks for the advice