Antiloco

Ok up for sale now 1800€ ("Först till kvarn" as we say here in Sweden...and you pay the shipping!)

You were right Scooby, thanks and up for this beauty.

Can't see the pictures

Still open for offers

I've got some really interesting offers but keep'em coming please, I've played the monster for a couple of hours now and I think the trading is going to be a reality, this neck is just to slim for me. But what a bass. Just WOW.
Im located in Stockholm, Sweden BTW.

C'mon girls, don't be shy...

I've got this immaculate Yamaha BB 2024X in sunburst but I'm hesitating about the neck which feels rather thin, more like a jazz-profile. Everything else with this bass is just like a dream: weight, looks, sound etc. just look around the net for more references. If you ask me, this bass is like any Fender you've ever had and ever will have but better. If they had only made it with a proper meaty neck it would have been the " perfect bass" and my search would have been over.









The condition is almost pristine 9/10 and it comes with its original hard case, papers etc.

Cheers.

Sale price is 1700€

More info please

This got sold I presume?...LOL

Offended clowns: Feel free to start your own thread about how fun it is to be mediocre.

Please feel welcome if your intention is to discuss the topic.

Thanks.

Hi! Is this pedal better or worse than the Boss gt 10b in your opinion?

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1357050009' post='1916738']

Why? , I have been in similar situations where the rest of the band preffered my simpler style over people who were both more technical and up on their theory etc.
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You simply fail to recognize what technique is al about then but hey... Who am I to teach you?

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1357057972' post='1916907']


Well, judging from your comments on here, you don't sound like a very "blissful" person. Or maybe you just hate us all? Either way, you don't come across as being very happy in our company.
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....and since when are you representing this whole community? As said before, the lack of humbleness comes from the other side. Anyway I don't have the time to argue with ignorant, mediocre and arrogant people. Thanks and bye.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1357056802' post='1916874']


OK. Whatever. Maybe ignorance is bliss, but your position clearly isn't bringing you much bliss.

I think I'll try ignoring you.

Ah.... bliss!
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And what do you know about my bliss?... Don't be ridiculous!

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1357056510' post='1916868']
Seriously, man. He's. wind-up. Ignore him.
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And who are you to try to censure another point of view? You defend mediocrity in music just because you belong to that gang. There's no way around it, try to get better instead of blaming other people's opinions. Grow up.

If JE has brought more enjoyment to this world it's due to the overwhelming ignorance that dominates us and nothing else. If you think that ignorance is bliss well then I get the point. To me ignorance is the bastard responsible for the horrors in this world. No idea in defending mediocrity to me, can't see the point in it.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1357049892' post='1916734']

You appear to have a personal issue with this looking at this thread and your other, as if you have some bits of paper with grades on and everyone else is an imposter or something, I am sure there is more to this?
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Are you shure about this or does envy and lack of humbleness come from the other side? I certainly have issues with this but it has to do with a strong sence of justice so stop talking about papers cause nobody cares except those who lack diplomas.
The main point is that putting Anthony Jackson and John entwinstle in the same bag simply isn't fair. But this society makes you believe it is... For money's sake.

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1357049199' post='1916719']
I injured myself and wasn't able to play in my band for a while.

They recruited someone to cover who was a 'better' player than me. More technical, busier, added a slap solo in one song etc.

When I recovered the band welcomed me back with open arms and a couple of them said it was good to have me back because I was a 'better' player for them and my ability, timing, technique etc suited them more.

The drummer (who is quite technical) in particular said how pleased he was to have me back.

In this case 'better', from a technical perspective, meant 'worse'
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I doubt he was better than you technically if the others prefer you. The only way to know would have been to make the both of you play the same line. Plus that technique without a brain is pretty useless anyway...

[quote name='WinterMute' timestamp='1357049228' post='1916720']
Style over substance? Sure, thats a fair description of elements of the music industry. If you don't like it then don't do it, but don't slag someone off for going ahead and wearing the silly costumes and learning the dances and playing the bass that suits the look, that's entertainment.
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There's absolutely no problem in wanting to be an entertainer. The irritating moment begins when the clown not only fools himself but tries to convince others of his artistic integrity.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1357047814' post='1916687']
But if someone is creating something new who decides if its right or not?
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Nobody and that's partly the problem. Hence gangnam style is the most played tune on the radio right now.

[quote name='Dr.Dave' timestamp='1357047992' post='1916692']

All I know is this

Re. better or worse - if I play/practise I get better , if I don't play or practise I get worse.

And re. knowledge/skill being unimportant when it comes to art........ you can't break the rules or push the boundarys uness you know what they are to start with.
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Exactly. So why are there people out there that demand recognition when they haven't finished their homework? Just because art is subjective? That's the real lack of humbleness to me.

The correct amount of control would be the amount necessary to get you through a musical piece decently. It's a fact that everyone can't play everything otherwise we wouldn't have students. Who measures what a student needs to improve? Well...someone with a greater amount of control aka a teacher.

But music is not about control...or is it?

The questioning is not technique related although a proper technique will always be needed to the style you intend to play. Even punk or nirvana.
Maybe the real question is: is it possible to be regarded as better than somebody else in music? Is everything subjective? And if not what would be a correct way to measure someones level? The amount of control of the instrument is the only parameter that comes to mind....all the others are a matter of taste. It's a hard question.

I've been into several forums now where there seems to be a tabu around talking about someone being better or worse in musical situations. I wonder what the debate climate looks like here in bass chat so I put the discussion on the table: Is it possible to be better or worse than anyone in art? Are we all the same? Is this too subjective to measure? Isn't this thinking curling the way for laziness to take advantage of people with the will to grow? Etc, etc...

[quote name='alstocko' timestamp='1357006693' post='1916378']

Firstly, I do not mean to be offensive in anything I say, but I'm not going to sugar coat it. I respect your opinion, but as someone who pays the bills (as a student, so not fully professional yet) here are my two cents worth.

Talk to Janek Gwizdala about this and try and tell him that he's not a "true musician" for saying that he "wouldn't turn up to a gospel or pop gig with his signature Fodera".

Just because someone values the image part of music AS WELL as the aural side doesn't make them any less of a musician, just more aware of their target audience. I'll give a comparable example, you're playing a Jazz gig on NYE at an upmarket establishment, what do you wear? Do you wear your ripped jeans and t short because you're a classic rock guy (hypothetically of course!) or do you adapt to the gig and suit up? I know which of person would be sent home and which person would be invited back to play again (if the music is at the same high standard with both people of course!)

If you're going to take the approach "f*** the music industry", gett ready for it to f*** you, because you're going to struggle to make a penny when you're not adapted to play the game by someone else's rules.

You don't see an actor kicking off because they can't us the same accent for each part they play. The predjudice exists, so either adapt and learn what the public/your employer/your audience sees as "appropriate" to your gig, or disappear with it.

Imagine if Pino played all his stuff with John Mayer on a Fodera, all the notes would still be right, but the whole image of a 60s Blues Rock outfit would be wrong, and he would be told to play something else, or leave (Janek had a similar experience recently with a pop act telling him that he had a gig but needed a precision to play)

Like it or not (I personally don't like getting called for my markbass gear etc by the way!), you have to learn that this is how the industry works now, and has for years.

Sorry for the long rant.
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Janek Gwizdala?....*giggles*

I played for a living more than ten years of my life so I know what Iam talking about. I left that stinky world voluntary, as a student you're getting into it now so it's hard for me to make my point clear due to the differences in experience but thanks anyway.