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[quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1348615930' post='1816153'] Best fun I ever had was with a Rory Gallagher trio tribute. Used a beat up old Gherson jazz through lots of valves and a 1x15 cab. Lovely growly tone and loved playing around with dynamics and bouncing off the drummers ideas. Hope your project takes off mate and if I was local I'd be jumping at the chance to do this sort of thing! Truckstop [/quote] That's exactly what I'm talking about! Dr Stingray, I play a Strat for this. I also have a tele, a J45 and a Les Paul jr. (and a P bass) but I wouldn't dream of using those guitars for this, because they would be the wrong instruments for the job. I know Hendrix sometimes used other guitars but I am trying to go for certain aesthetic. I'm not going to wear fancy dress or set my guitar on fire, it is supposed to be about the playing which I certainly am trying to make authentic. No age limit BTW. Pino is 54, doesn't bother John Mayer or the audiences. Honestly I'm not trying to tell anyone what kind of instrument they should play, just that if you audition for this with a 5 string, fretless or a Warwick we are almost guaranteed to have incompatible ideas. I am speaking from experience and I want to narrow it down before we actually get to playing together. Thanks a lot for all the encouragement as well guys, means a lot.

Hi Merlin, Folkestone / Ashford for now.

Thanks chaps, good to know the ad is being seen by some good players. No offence to the above excluded groups! I just know what will and what won't work for this particular project.

Guitarist looking to form a serious power trio a la Hendrix, John Mayer trio etc. I'm looking for a P or J (specifically) player with a vintage style rig and strong melodic blues sense. Hopefully a Noel Redding, Billy Cox, Pino Palladino, JPJ fan. Planning to start with Hendrix and John Mayer Trio covers and take it from there. My aim is NOT to create a 60s tribute act, a wedding band or a local pub covers band. Just a very, very good power trio. Please, no weekend warriors, slappers, and no Stingrays or Warwicks please. I am looking for an accomplished Fender Jazz or Precision player. Thanks for reading, I hope to hear from you! Martin [url="http://www.martinrawlins.net"]www.martinrawlins.net[/url]

Well to update the thread, unfortunately I never did get the machine heads on my Squier. The process of removing the Squier bushings started to crack the lacquer on the headstock so I had to stop. The lacquer was evidently still wet when Squier fitted the metalwork... a word of warning to anyone else. Thankfully the crack is not too visible but I'm not sure what to do with these parts now. Sell them I guess... shame.

Hi Mark, is the bass neck heavy at all, how's the balance on a strap? Martin

Time for a pic ;-)

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='992435' date='Oct 18 2010, 04:50 PM']That new PG does look a lot nicer. Im hoping to order a CV P tomorrow and will also need to change the PG. Did you find out if the standard MIM PG would fit? It looks like it should. I had the PG off my MIA and also my HW-one and they both fit my CV Jazz, but i need one that doesn't have the truss rod cut out and the MIM looks ideal. Im also considering a black PG but i would have to see the CV P in the flesh first to see if that would work. Love the sound clip as well.[/quote] Thanks Dave, not sure about the MIM, the only hunch I had to go on was a rumour about the 62 reissue plate. I took a risk and it paid off. Let us know how you get on!

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='990918' date='Oct 17 2010, 10:23 AM']Hmmm ... I wonder if that works for the Jazz too?[/quote] Let us know if you find out ;-) By the way here is an improvised jam I just put down for someone who was asking for a sound example of this bass with the 62RI pickup (and orange drop cap). Hope you like it! [url="http://soundcloud.com/martin_rawlins/squier-cv-with-fender-pickup"]http://soundcloud.com/martin_rawlins/squie...h-fender-pickup[/url]

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='990407' date='Oct 16 2010, 05:42 PM']Have I understood correctly? A US 62 P reissue guard fits a Squier CV 60s P?[/quote] Yes, like a glove!

[quote name='stinson' post='990268' date='Oct 16 2010, 02:52 PM']I played one of these the other day, really nice bass, great neck. Half tempted to buy it. Are the original pups no good?[/quote] Hi Stinson, yes the neck is absolutely stunning. I'm still in awe of it because not only is the feel amazing but the finish and grain are also beautiful. The stock pickups were fine, but following the sale of my 75 RI Jazz I had a very decent budget to spend on a bass. I originally wanted a 62 RI or an original 70's Fender but I ended up preferring the feel of the Squier after a few days in London trying many Precisions both vintage and new. So I just felt the Squier deserved posh cosmetics and electronics. I use the bass for recording so I wanted an industry standard "vintage" pickup and reliable pots and electronics. I did a bit (actually a lot) of research on the Pino Palladino sig and tried to get as close as possible to that spec.

Hi guys So the scratchplate and shield arrived yesterday from Darren Riley- thanks again Jon and everyone else for your contributions. The Fender 62 RI scratchplate fits the Squier CV perfectly and looks so much classier! I also installed a 62 RI pickup, CTS audio taper pots, a switchcraft jack and period correct knobs to complete the pimping. Here are the before and after shots:

Yeah that's what I'm saying, there are bits of metal protruding from the back of the flat tuner plate which prevents it from sitting flat against the headstock rear. Madison Music say you should just be able to screw the machine heads in and the protruding tags (about 2mm) will crush themselves into the wood. I'd really like to know if anyone else has these dents in their Fender bass when they remove a machine head, or not. [quote name='bh2' post='966361' date='Sep 24 2010, 08:30 AM']They should just pop in, of course the mounting screws are in different places so you may want to drill those out, to get them started. A very thin bit of course, and not too deep![/quote]

Here is Madison Music's response: "The metal on the bottom of the plate is to hold the shaft. If your installing them on a real vintage guitar I would use them the way they are. I use hundreds of these a year on our custom built guitars. The metal that hold the shaft has never been a big deal. Usually they will imprint themselfs into the wood naturally by tightening the tuner. Let me know if you have any troubles." So it seems no extra routing is necessary. Can anyone confirm this?

Heh, yes they are pretty, you can specify the amount of ageing you want as well. Now to get them on the bass! [quote name='bh2' post='965504' date='Sep 23 2010, 11:42 AM']Nice... I would like to fit those on my MiM p... I put a set of Wilkos on but I would like the vintage vibe.[/quote]

OK, now I understand what you mean NeilB! The tuners arrived today and sure enough they have bent metal "tags" which attach the shaft of the worm screw to the plate itself. Yes they do indeed protrude out from the back plate so it will not sit flush with the back of the headstock. The small holes are miles away from fitting as I assumed they would be, which is fine. Too close and that would have been a problem. OK so I have to find a way to accommodate these tags. Are Fender basses already routed in this way, behind the plates? I'd love to see how. These are the tuners I eventually bought - cheaper than original vintage Fenders and fantastic service from Ben at madison music. [url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190413347047&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...E:X:AAQ:US:1123[/url] I've asked Ben if he can advise on this issue and I'll post his response if it's useful. I was hoping not to have to destroy the bass for the sake of cool tuners and I definitely do want them to sit straight so hopefully someone can advise on best practise. Cheers [quote name='mrawlins' post='942963' date='Sep 2 2010, 06:53 AM']Hah, ok that's interesting. Yes I had assumed they would fit the four large holes that go through the headstock, are you saying you had to countersink those or the small holes?[/quote]

Thanks a lot Jon, yes Darren Riley has the '62 RI and the shield. WD do not but thanks also Dave. Now I'm just not sure if it's worth getting the 62 as you also have to shield it which is not the case with the regular fender P plate. Can anyone please tell me if they know of any cosmetic or physical differences? BTW I have been in contact with the bass doc and he may be able to help me out but obviously this thread is about the FENDER pickguards and where to buy them. I'm not in the UK so the Doc needs a template which I can't provide. For the purposes of this thread can we just discuss Fender plates. Not OEM, not handmade, not own brand. FENDER! Thanks chaps. [quote name='jonthebass' post='959107' date='Sep 17 2010, 07:34 AM']My fave place for Fender parts at the moment is: [url="http://www.darrenriley.com/fenderparts.htm"]Darren Riley Parts[/url] In the USA. Hope that helps, Regards, Jon[/quote]

OK, quick question - basically there is the Fender Precision pickguard which seems to be ready-shielded, then the '62 reissue which is NOT shielded, and requires you to add the shielding yourself. Can anyone tell me if there is any cosmetic difference, or other physical difference (i.e. screw positioning etc) between the 62 RI pickguard and the normal Fender Precision tort guard? The regular Fender is a lot easier to get and also doesn't require an additional shield. Many thanks!

[quote name='ezbass' post='959712' date='Sep 17 2010, 04:40 PM']Allparts [url="http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/fender-guitar-amp-parts/guitar-parts/pickguards-backplates/pickguards-for-basses-fender-c-277_296_319_327_372.html"]http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/fen...19_327_372.html[/url][/quote] Out of stock, but thanks

[quote name='BurritoBass' post='958981' date='Sep 16 2010, 11:59 PM']EBay always has a few. I picked up a black original 62RI Fender one recently[/quote] Hi Burrito, yeah I've been looking on eBay too, of course... the only one on the bay right now is in France and listed at 70 Euros inc postage - not ideal. Original would be cool if one came up but I'm just looking for a regular new 62 RI right now.

[quote name='tino' post='958789' date='Sep 16 2010, 08:47 PM']applestone music or Thomann or the other 20 I found with a single google[/quote] Fender 62 P bass plates are not listed on Applestone's website. 62 Stratocaster yes, Precision bass no. I've emailed them anyway. Thomann is out of stock. When you say 20 results on google, you do realise that apart from applestone (who don't have it) they are Bizrate, shopping.com, supaprice.co.uk (which all of course lead nowhere), plus a few harmony central reviews?

As the title describes, either I'm completely stupid and crap at searching or it's really hard to find a genuine FENDER '62 reissue tort scratchplate for P bass. I want it to replace the "photo of a sicked up doner" Squier CV Pino plate. I have a strong belief that the '62 RI 13 hole Fender plate will fit based on other's experiences, but please holler if you know otherwise. Can anyone please recommend an online store in the UK or elsewhere? Thank you!!

[quote name='neilb' post='942953' date='Sep 2 2010, 07:15 AM']These DID fit the original holes. I had to countersink some holes a tad behind the plate to accomodate the tags at the rear. Yes, not ideally straight, but hey ho>may get round to repositioning one day!![/quote] Hah, ok that's interesting. Yes I had assumed they would fit the four large holes that go through the headstock, are you saying you had to countersink those or the small holes?

Yes as I mentioned I'm looking to put some beautifully aged original 70s Fender tuners on there, they are $200 so I want to make sure I'm not going to run into any insurmountable problems. They will definitely not fit in the existing holes, this is why I'm asking for a bit of advice- thanks guys!

[quote name='neilb' post='942588' date='Sep 1 2010, 07:14 PM']I put genuine reverse vintage Fender tuners on my CV Precision. [/quote] Wow, beautiful! Great photo. Did you encounter any problems, or can you pass on any tips?