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    50s roadworn 2010 & 50s classic series 2018

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    Posted · Edited by skej21

    On 06/11/2021 at 13:33, la bam said:

    Hi all,

     

    I have a 2010 50s road worn precision.

     

    Are these the same basses as the 50s classic series from 2018 (minus the relic) ? ir same dimensions, hardware, pups etc..

     

    It just seems a long run if they are?

    It depends which model you’re referring to. The ‘Classic’ series actually has two variants; A poly finish (with more colour options generally available) and then a select number of colour options available in a lacquer (nitro) finish, which also come with a hard case and were slightly more expensive as a result. Fender’s naming clearly states the difference so it’s easier to spot, but the finish difference between a lacquer Road Worn and a poly Classic series would be different (in terms of finish type and how it would affect wear over time etc). The differences between a ‘Classic Lacquer’ and a Road Worn would be much closer in terms of spec (with the Road Worn obviously having the worn/relic finish already applied). 
     

    I think the poly finished Classic 50s Precision was available in sunburst, red, black and a honey/butterscotch. I think the lacquer was available in a translucent white and black only.

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    H.S.W.F.Y.H.K Effect Pedal

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    Posted · Edited by skej21

    Thinking about investing in the H.S.W.F.Y.H.K pedal.

     

    I know it’s only a YouTube demo and they’re always made by people selling snake oil because they got a freebie and can’t really trust them (and they never say anything negative), but the H.S.W.F.Y.H.K looks like a great investment.
     

    The Madskill looks pretty awesome too!

     

     

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    Fender Player Plus....more blurred lines or a smart move?

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    4 minutes ago, OllyW said:

    You may be surprised to learn the MIM active deluxe models had already hit the £1K mark with the last Fender price increase back in January. 

    https://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Fender-Deluxe-Active-P-Bass-Special-PF-Olympic-White/1ZDL?origin=product-ads&gclid=CjwKCAjw4qCKBhAVEiwAkTYsPNetAqMvlp5h8KEDSjEYEu2JDn6DHC7r9zrgp0n7ITUdEeKyyWY0jxoCHMgQAvD_BwE

     

    They were priced around £800 two years ago when I managed to pick up a B-stock P bass without the gig bag for £600. It's not just Fender though, the Sterling Ray 34 has also crept up to become a £1K bass and it's not that long ago they were only £600 in the shops.

    Standard really. The Nate Mendel was £575 RRP when i got mine after it first came out in 2012, and now they are £1199 RRP

    Fender Player Plus....more blurred lines or a smart move?

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    1 hour ago, tegs07 said:

    If someone has a big budget and believes nitro and mm perfect exact reproduction will make them sound better I’m sure there is a market for them. For the rest of us a Vintera from the desired era will certainly do the job. Set it up nicely and use it plenty to give it the desired “mojo”.


    I think you’re missing my point. It’s not about ‘sounding better’. There’re are a LOT of old dudes who want to collect things that are like the good old days, with disposable income. When I worked in the music shop, the amount of people who bought Gibson J-45 or wanted a Fender strat identical to Hank Marvin’s etc was crazy, and with Gibson it was a standard model. With Fender, you’d end up selling something that (like you say) was “good enough” or could “do the job” functionally, but it wasn’t exacting enough for those types of people to get an instrument they were happy with. 
     

    i’m not saying the range is something that personally I would like, it’s just something I think Fender would be better focusing on

    Fender Player Plus....more blurred lines or a smart move?

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    43 minutes ago, Quilly said:

    I guarantee if you made a fender exactly per the 60s specifications people today wouldn’t like it. 

    I would put money on it, that they’d get more sales through that idea and reclaim more market share from people who don’t want cheap vinteras, or expensive custom shop models but would buy a Limelight or Bravewood for £1000-2000

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    Fender Player Plus....more blurred lines or a smart move?

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    This is just the kind of thing we always see from Fender, trying to chase ‘new business’. What Fender don’t seem to have tried at any point (but I think would be extremely popular!) is a step further down the ‘American original’ series.

     

    Take an iconic, genuine instrument from specific eras (let’s say, a ‘63 Precision as an example), and use advances in technology to scan the dimensions, wood types, neck profile, nitro composition etc and just recreate every exacting detail. Call it “American Authentic” range or similar and price it between £1500-3000 and offer all the classic finishes options (fiesta red etc). 

     

     Job done.

    Did a bass you played in a shop ever make you regret buying your main bass?

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    Posted

    3 hours ago, Lozz196 said:

    That was def a tale that rang true for me too, for some reason rather than just buy a Precision I chased the sound with many others only to be dissatisfied all the time. Daft thing is over that period I spent more than a Precision would have cost. In fact my first “real” bass, a Yamaha BB1100s was £450 and at the time a US Precision was £325, but out of stock. Impatient me couldn’t wait, had to have a bass now!

    Exactly the same. I saw the usual setups and thought I could go modern (and at times vintage) and it would somehow give me an edge or better sound than the ‘cliche’ setups. I’ve spent thousands doing it and just got back to an American Original Precision bass, Ampeg PF115HE and PF20T and couldn’t be happier. Could’ve saved myself a fortune and just bought that in the first place!

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    Fender P-Bass: Japan, US, CS or Limelight

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    Posted · Edited by skej21

    1 hour ago, vincbt said:

    Very nice! He’s now doing very light relic finishes I see, from what I heard he used to have a much heavier hand on relics

    My limelight is #133 and I picked it up in 2014 (its on the left in this photo) and the relic was “light” then. Don’t think it was hugely different considering I’ve added most of the other little knocks since!

     

    https://instagram.com/p/CRldigggGeJ/
     

    Fender P-Bass: Japan, US, CS or Limelight

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    Posted · Edited by skej21

    If you want an alternative to the initial options off nitro/custom relicing spec like Limelight, but mixed with something familiar like Fender Japan quality, have a look here;

    https://restauracja-gitar.pl/portfolio-posts/fender-precision-bass-mij-1962ri-20153550zl-922/

    They do vintage-spec refinishing (and relicing) on Fender Japan instruments. I’ve played a few (and have owned countless Japanese Fenders, played hundreds of Fender CS models and own a Limelight) and can say the quality is right up there, like CS level quality at a third of the price! They do bursts and a few other things you can’t get with Limelight.

    If I didn’t own the limelight before playing the few “Gitar” basses that I did, I wouldn’t have thought twice about specing a bass from Gitar Restauracja!

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    New Fender setup woes

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    Posted · Edited by skej21

    Stores generally are a weird place. We used to have a regular and he’d come in and purposefully try an instrument 3/4 times a week for about 8-10 weeks before buying.

    He’d always manage to let it pick up little knocks and scratches during his time trying it and then at the time of purchase, would say “this is shop soiled, what discount will you do?”… we soon caught on and would order a second of whatever it was he was damaging at the time so that when the time came we could deflect the pricing issue. It’s amazing the lengths and tricks people come up with to try and get themselves the best deal.
     

    The same bloke once spent an hour lecturing another customer in our shop (who was trying a quite expensive Gibson guitar that was sold out everywhere online) about how it’s a huge shame guitar stores are struggling and going online 🤣

    New Fender setup woes

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    Posted · Edited by skej21

    On 09/07/2021 at 11:47, rmorris said:

    Yeah - I vote:

    Visit shop ('proper bass /guitar' place that does setups etc.)

    Choose bass

    Play bass

    Play bass some more

    Buy bass only if it's set up and play in a way you like (also confirm that truss rod is not maxxed out or near to it)

    I know that it's not always easy to get to a good retailer and you don't get the advantage of distance selling rights but for something as tactile as a bass it has to be worth it ?

     

     

     

     

    I’d agree mostly. Only issue you have (and this is the case for almost any product, ever), is that the selection in-store, especially for basses, is pretty poor. Add to that a good in-store tech who understands how to make a bass play nicely, and all of a sudden your options become extremely narrow. 

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