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[quote name='LawrenceH' post='923630' date='Aug 13 2010, 11:19 AM']If you're not worried about resale, sonic blue with matching headstock is a country mile more awesome than boring old sunburst. And you can alway see how lovely the headstock wood is from the back if you're all that bothered [/quote]

+1

Also, sunburst finish just make your bass look like it came from Argos... Totally standard and VERY boring!

[quote name='EddyGlee' post='922992' date='Aug 12 2010, 05:56 PM']new price bump[/quote]
£500 for an AMAZING bass. BUMP for you my friend. BUMP!

LOVE THIS. Never thought I'd own a signature bass and I picked one of these up in GuitarGuitar and it kicked the arse off EVERY other Fender/Bass in the shop! F**KING INCREDIBLE! Someone is going to get a bargain

[quote name='JTUK' post='664802' date='Nov 25 2009, 11:20 AM']These still for sale...??

Please confirm, the title says NT but the pics are with horn. I am looking for 1xGS12 with horn in VGC.[/quote]

+1 - Might be interested if you could upload some photos that you have taken of the cabs that are for sale, not stock photos. £300 is a lot of money for something I've never seen!

[quote name='whynot' post='898579' date='Jul 19 2010, 07:58 AM']Monday bump.[/quote]
Another bump for GREAT gear/offer!

SOLD

[quote name='Doddy' post='833126' date='May 10 2010, 03:12 PM']Cover the tab up then [/quote]

+1

Agreed. In response to the other comment, this book has tab AND notation in order for it to appeal to and aid beginners to learn and crossover from tab into notation. The only problem this would cause a reader is that you are being lazy and reading the tab instead of the notation. That's not the book's fault!!

The Bass Bible by Paul Westwood is fantastic. Includes 2 CDs that have a number of examples of his work. The book includes scales, arpeggios, chord sheets, notated phrases (including styles from African/Cuban/Latin through to Motown) and has a range of technical sections (looking at Fretless, Slap etc) and even a section with notated solos. Also accompanied by tab. This was recommended by my Bass tutor when I first took lessons and it really helped me to understand the context of bass within a range of ensembles and settings.

Just look at the contents page and you can see how in depth and useful this book can be! Hope this helps!

[url="http://www.amazon.com/dp/3927190675"]http://www.amazon.com/dp/3927190675[/url]

[quote name='JimD' post='823111' date='Apr 29 2010, 04:01 PM']PM'd[/quote]

Replied.

[quote name='Beedster' post='823021' date='Apr 29 2010, 01:55 PM']Build quality doesn't define a good bass. I've played plenty that were well built, but which either played or sounded crap. I've owned a couple that were not well built (e.g., poorly fitting heel/pocket, neck or bridge off line or wrongly positioned), and they've been good basses where it counts, how they played and how they sounded.

In most respects however I agree with your answer though, that is, I think with upgrades Squiers can be as good, but that means that without those upgrades, they're not. A Squier might play brilliantly off the shelf, but may not stay in tune as well as a bass equipped with decent tuners, or may not have the out and out tone a bass equipped with decent PUPs. I guess the point I was making in my earlier post is that the cost of the required upgrades is rarely as much as the price difference between a new Squier and a new Fender.

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Completely agree. The best thing I would think is buy a nice bass in the shop and then just turn it into Trigger's broom. Upgrade the parts you think need changing, then you've spent a similar amount of money as a more expensive bass would be off-the-shelf but got exactly what you want.

Maybe a comparison between any two basses is a bit daft. Everyone is different and every will love a different bass. The best thing to do is to go in a shop, play it and you'll know straight away if it's right for you! (and if you end up loving a squier and REALLY want it to be a fender, sand the headstock and replace it with a Fender decal lol)

[quote name='Beedster' post='822990' date='Apr 29 2010, 01:25 PM']No, the question was pretty specific: are Squiers better? Value doesn't, and doesn't need to, come into it.[/quote]

In which case, I personally think the answer is no. The build quality of most Squiers may be good on the scale of basses but is not as good as the hand built early Fender basses. I just feel that a machine-built bass cannot match the feel and quality of something hand-made.

[quote name='alanbass1' post='822975' date='Apr 29 2010, 01:09 PM']The question would be better based around is a Squier 'better value' than a Fender. Let's face it, you can get a Fender bass from £250 right up to £3k and more - I would have no expectation that a Squier would better a £3k bass - but I would think twice as to whether the £3k bass is worth the extra money[/quote]

+1

The question is far too vague and doesn't take into account the additional value of the high-end Fenders.
As far as sound and playing goes, it is likely that some people will argue that there is little difference. However, you cannot argue that vintage Fenders have added value through the immense history of the instrument. Vintage Fenders are an investment and a piece of history (although some Squiers appear to be following this trend) but in both cases, result in an increased desire/value.

[quote name='Johnston' post='822949' date='Apr 29 2010, 12:44 PM']

Compare the sounds I don't think the squires are too shabby compared to their counter parts.[/quote]


Compare the sounds of any bass signal through a beautiful, expensive amp. Would it sound as good through a budget amp? Because lets face it, if you're buying a budget bass, you'll probably be buying a budget amp. I also agree that he doesn't look like he is enjoying playing those basses.

[quote name='MacDaddy' post='822925' date='Apr 29 2010, 12:21 PM']the topic is 'Is a Squier better than a Fender'. Valid topic for debate which will boil down to personal preference.

The original Squiers - with a big Fender logo and a small Squier logo - are often considered far superior to the Fenders of the same era and are still highly sought today.

As simon1964 said is there £600 + difference in sound/playability? Does anyone think the audience would notice the difference?


Re the steak, what if you are vegetarian? [/quote]

I agree with you about live sound, but to be fair most audiences care more about hearing a song they know than the quality of sound... they just expect things to sound good. However, I do think that the poorer quality of Squier basses is highlighted by the fact that hardly any session players rate, promote or recommend them. It is clear that there is just something special about hig-end/vintage Fenders when you record them (in the special same way that playing through a flat compressor can add warmth to your sound from apparently doing nothing).

This thread seems pointless. You're comparing a budget bass company (squier) with another budget bass company (vintage). It's like discussing which 6p tin of baked beans tastes better... the answer is neither, a STEAK tastes better!!

Don't forget Pino! Still grooving with anything that moves at the young age of 52!

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