jon_kemo Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) Recent acquisitions and my belief that I just don't get on with Jazz's forces this sale. Was only bought a couple of months ago from Rumble on this forum and is in exactly the same condition as it was when I bought it from him as it has only been used a handful of times. It's a US Jazz in Olympic White with Rosewood neck and a tortie plate. The pickups have been changed to Kent Armstrongs and the bridge upgraded to a Gotoh 203. Plays brilliantly and a really nice low action can be achieved but the Jazz sound just isn't my cup of tea. Am lookin for [b]£450[/b] posted which is what I paid for and is in my opinion a bargain for this! Cheers to Rumble for allowing me to use his pics. Edited October 2, 2009 by jon_kemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pal1972 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 so a trade for another jazz is pointless!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_kemo Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 [quote name='pal1972' post='610972' date='Sep 28 2009, 04:35 PM']so a trade for another jazz is pointless!!?? [/quote] I'm afraid so yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsixties Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 A real bargain indeed. This will not stay here for many hours. Just a curiosity anyone knows what means the "American traditional" on the headstock of those series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buff Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Any trades or hard cash ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_kemo Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 [quote name='buff' post='610998' date='Sep 28 2009, 05:01 PM']Any trades or hard cash ?[/quote] Cash only I'm afraid, really need to cut down on the number of basses I own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 [quote name='jsixties' post='610994' date='Sep 28 2009, 04:55 PM']A real bargain indeed. This will not stay here for many hours. Just a curiosity anyone knows what means the "American traditional" on the headstock of those series?[/quote] 'American Traditional' were a 90's budget series, made in Mexico I think, or at least made in the US from Mex parts. I had one a while back and it was actually pretty good, but not an MIA in the true sense. They were originally supplied with one-piece white pickguards and white VVT controls and as such looked a lot like a Strat (like the early 90's Fullertons which I imagine they were modelled on). This bass has clearly been upgraded so, if mine was anything to go on, it's likely a decent instrument Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsixties Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for the info Chris, truly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorbass Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 [quote name='Beedster' post='611023' date='Sep 28 2009, 05:14 PM']'American Traditional' were a 90's budget series, made in Mexico I think, or at least made in the US from Mex parts. I had one a while back and it was actually pretty good, but not an MIA in the true sense. They were originally supplied with one-piece white pickguards and white VVT controls and as such looked a lot like a Strat (like the early 90's Fullertons which I imagine they were modelled on). This bass has clearly been upgraded so, if mine was anything to go on, it's likely a decent instrument Chris.[/quote] Ive got one of these, same body colour, American vintage PUs, white pickguard, bell control plate. One of the best jazz bass's Ive played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fede162162 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 [quote name='Beedster' post='611023' date='Sep 28 2009, 06:14 PM']'American Traditional' were a 90's budget series, made in Mexico I think, or at least made in the US from Mex parts. I had one a while back and it was actually pretty good, but not an MIA in the true sense. They were originally supplied with one-piece white pickguards and white VVT controls and as such looked a lot like a Strat (like the early 90's Fullertons which I imagine they were modelled on). This bass has clearly been upgraded so, if mine was anything to go on, it's likely a decent instrument Chris.[/quote] Hi Chris, do you know where I can find infos about these "american traditional" USA jazzes? So far I've only found this, by Fender website: "N"-prefix serial numbers denoting the 1990s were introduced in 1990. The numbers and decals were produced far in advance, and some N9 decals (denoting 1999), were inadvertantly affixed to some instruments in 1990. Consequently, some 1990 guitars bear 1999 "N9" serial numbers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 [quote name='fede162162' post='611582' date='Sep 29 2009, 07:14 AM']Hi Chris, do you know where I can find infos about these "american traditional" USA jazzes? So far I've only found this, by Fender website: "N"-prefix serial numbers denoting the 1990s were introduced in 1990. The numbers and decals were produced far in advance, and some N9 decals (denoting 1999), were inadvertantly affixed to some instruments in 1990. Consequently, some 1990 guitars bear 1999 "N9" serial numbers."[/quote] I'm sure there'll be some info on the interweb somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fede162162 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 [quote name='Beedster' post='611611' date='Sep 29 2009, 09:35 AM']I'm sure there'll be some info on the interweb somewhere [/quote] you're right, in fact I've found this on an old thread on Talkbass: I received an eMail back from Fender which said. "The Traditional series were a kind of budget USA/Mexican hybrid.They preceded the made in Mexico guitars, and were built with a mixture of USA and Mexican parts." Someone should write a Fender full story on this forum, it comes out Fender had a rocky life, I never stop learning something new about this company! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 [quote name='fede162162' post='611688' date='Sep 29 2009, 10:13 AM']"The Traditional series were a kind of budget USA/Mexican hybrid.They preceded the made in Mexico guitars, and were built with a mixture of USA and Mexican parts."[/quote] So pretty much what I said above really I don't think they've had a rocky life as such, they've been pretty much to the fore in electric guitars and basses since the early 50's (certainly other companies in the same market have had it worse). It's true to say however that they have made some poor technological and product decisions over the years (especially in the 80's and 90's), often in the face of increasing competition (although this is also true of most big corporations - even Alfa Romeo have had their off days, well several really, mostly between the late 80's and about a year ago .). For such a big organisation it can be difficult to get information on discontinued products (as you found), and their quality control and cataloguing are notorious, even today. All things said, they generally make damn fine basses though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurcatovium Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 [quote name='jon_kemo' post='610934' date='Sep 28 2009, 04:52 PM']the bridge upgraded to a Gotoh 201[/quote] FIY the bridge at the pictures is Gotoh 203, not the 201 one (it's more massive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_kemo Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Back to the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_kemo Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Found a box big enough to take the bass and its hard case so a bump to say that this is now available at [b]£450[/b] posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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