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Does anyone know if these are ideal for heavier basses? [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/hercules_stands_gs_454_b.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/hercules_stands_gs_454_b.htm[/url]
I want to use it for a heavy 7-string and a 5 (not at the same time...), and presumably the cheaper one won't take the weight. :) Or is it just to do with the width of the neck? I'm pretty sure my classical guitar isn't significantly wider than a 4-string bass?!

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I use one of the £4-50 goose neck stands from [url="http://www.themusicking.co.uk"]The Music King[/url]. I've got a 7-string and a 6-string one sat in a couple of them at the moment. Must get round to buying another four or five. Only thing to watch out for is losing the plastic stopper/mushroom things at the end of the neck rest, as the rubber cushioning then falls off.

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[quote name='Finbar' post='333847' date='Nov 21 2008, 02:09 PM']I asked in Soundcontrol and apparently my Conklin wouldn't fit in a Hercules stand. If you find that it does, or find another solution, then let me know![/quote]
...damn... was it definitely one of these bigger ones you looked at? You'd think a stand specifically for basses with wide necks would be able to just about accommodate 2.5 inches!
I'll probably end up taking it in to try one out somewhere and I'll certainly let you know if it fits or not!

[quote name='tauzero' post='333867' date='Nov 21 2008, 02:33 PM']I use one of the £4-50 goose neck stands from [url="http://www.themusicking.co.uk"]The Music King[/url]. I've got a 7-string and a 6-string one sat in a couple of them at the moment. Must get round to buying another four or five. Only thing to watch out for is losing the plastic stopper/mushroom things at the end of the neck rest, as the rubber cushioning then falls off.[/quote]
I've got a triple one of those - I used to have a single one but it takes up too much space for one bass! My problem with these is not the neck rest but the cradle that keeps falling off - one of them snapped off completely and is replaced with a pillow, one falls out nearly every time I pick the bass up, and the other is fairly unreliable too! It's not worth replacing for home storage, but I really want something very sturdy for gigs, where I can switch basses without having to worry about my stand falling apart!

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[quote name='queenofthedepths' post='333921' date='Nov 21 2008, 03:45 PM']I've got a triple one of those - I used to have a single one but it takes up too much space for one bass! My problem with these is not the neck rest but the cradle that keeps falling off - one of them snapped off completely and is replaced with a pillow, one falls out nearly every time I pick the bass up, and the other is fairly unreliable too! It's not worth replacing for home storage, but I really want something very sturdy for gigs, where I can switch basses without having to worry about my stand falling apart![/quote]
Have you put the cradles on properly? Mine's fine as long as you push the cradle pivot well in with the cradle upside down, then turn it right way up. There's a projection on the pivot which needs to go through both walls of the stand tube IYSWIM.

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[quote name='tauzero' post='335599' date='Nov 24 2008, 04:04 PM']Have you put the cradles on properly? Mine's fine as long as you push the cradle pivot well in with the cradle upside down, then turn it right way up. There's a projection on the pivot which needs to go through both walls of the stand tube IYSWIM.[/quote]
Yeah, and it was fine at first, but before long they got mangled and now they don't fit in properly. It'd be fine for most people, I'm sure, but when you're as ham-fisted as me (or some of my friends, namely the perpetrators of this destruction...), you need something that's not gonna break so easily!

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[quote name='queenofthedepths' post='336085' date='Nov 25 2008, 10:48 AM']Yeah, and it was fine at first, but before long they got mangled and now they don't fit in properly. It'd be fine for most people, I'm sure, but when you're as ham-fisted as me (or some of my friends, namely the perpetrators of this destruction...), you need something that's not gonna break so easily![/quote]

I had one of these - it fell to bits within 3 or 4 gigs and the cradle kept falling out - most rubbish stand ever for gigging with but OK for home use.

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[quote name='yorick' post='336174' date='Nov 25 2008, 12:42 PM']How about one of the Warwick Rockstands. Mine holds three basses. Unless you're using a Thunderbirdor or a vee shaped bass, it should be ok. Plus it folds down!!! Hope it helps :)[/quote]
I've got a couple of those, one Rockstand and one equivalent (IIRC). They don't actually work that well. Good for acoustic guitars, OK for electrics with flat body sides and a constant radius bottom (eg. Les Paul), crap as soon as you introduce an asymmetric body (Warwick) or chamfered/shaped body edge (Warwick, Fender) or body with non-constant radius bottom (Fender). You [i]can[/i] use them with Warwicks but not if you don't want to spend two minutes making sure it's positioned exactly right on the stand.

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[quote name='yorick' post='336174' date='Nov 25 2008, 12:42 PM']How about one of the Warwick Rockstands. Mine holds three basses. Unless you're using a Thunderbirdor or a vee shaped bass, it should be ok. Plus it folds down!!! Hope it helps :)[/quote]


[quote name='tauzero' post='340242' date='Nov 29 2008, 01:51 AM']I've got a couple of those, one Rockstand and one equivalent (IIRC). They don't actually work that well. Good for acoustic guitars, OK for electrics with flat body sides and a constant radius bottom (eg. Les Paul), crap as soon as you introduce an asymmetric body (Warwick) or chamfered/shaped body edge (Warwick, Fender) or body with non-constant radius bottom (Fender). You [i]can[/i] use them with Warwicks but not if you don't want to spend two minutes making sure it's positioned exactly right on the stand.[/quote]

Are we referring to these:
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Warwick-Rockstand-RS20880-3-guitar-stand-NEW_W0QQitemZ250305284654QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item250305284654&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Warwick-Rockstand-RS...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]
Or these:
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-guitar-Warwick-Rockstand_W0QQitemZ320137770524QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item320137770524&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-guitar-Warw...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]
?

You'd think a stand made by Warwick would hold a Warwick or a very common bass like a Fender (I'm assuming you only mean a Jazz, right?)... oh well, I don't think either of the basses I want to put on there will have such a problem, anyway.

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[quote name='queenofthedepths' post='340555' date='Nov 29 2008, 03:57 PM']Are we referring to these:
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Warwick-Rockstand-RS20880-3-guitar-stand-NEW_W0QQitemZ250305284654QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item250305284654&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Warwick-Rockstand-RS...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]
Or these:
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-guitar-Warwick-Rockstand_W0QQitemZ320137770524QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item320137770524&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-guitar-Warw...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]
?

You'd think a stand made by Warwick would hold a Warwick or a very common bass like a Fender (I'm assuming you only mean a Jazz, right?)... oh well, I don't think either of the basses I want to put on there will have such a problem, anyway.[/quote]
The first of them. I've responded in another thread about the problems with them.

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