Prime_BASS

My band are thinking of doing our own acoustic session, as this what seems to be giving the general public a mass ridge-on at the minute.

We will be fairly limited to recording it, with probably 2 over hangs and a single mic for the vocals. The guitar and drums will be fine volume wise, but I feel an acoustic bass will just not have the volume to be heard, especially in the lower registers, wouldn't be an issue if we had the mics and resources as I could get my own mic to mic up the bass. Or I could DI it but then here lies the same issue, we just don't have the hardware to do it all in one take.

I know I could use my electric bass and amp, which personally I'd prefer, but then that defeats the point of an acoustic performance I guess.

I think currently we can record 3 tracks in one take at a time, which I know is fairly limiting.

What shoudl we do?

Invest in more recording hardware??

Could you confirm the weight please??

[quote name='fluffo' timestamp='1334502612' post='1616897']
the best of the deluxes, great pickups free bump on it , did I miss the price on this, couldn't see it
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Alas, it's at a trade only atm.

[quote name='drewk_ie' timestamp='1334434135' post='1616269']
All you past and present cutlass owners are lucky to have had or have one... Ah, the dream to own a cutlass.... The hunt continues....
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never ending as it appears to me.

After a year I still vote for single H

I stand by the fact that if you know yor stuff it'll do everything just as well (iuf not better) than multi pickuped basses.

thank god!! great buy this was, I hadn't had brought mine (which is niow back up lol) I would have gone for this one!

always fancied one these, all that power can drive one self mad!

the bass and treble at noon are naturally boosted(in favour of bass though) while the mid is scooped. The OTB's true flat setting was the bass effectively off, with the mids fairly boosted.

The OTB I found very boomy with the compact, but now I have a markbass I love the way i sound through the cab.

If there is the one you should try and stic to it.

I got rid of an LMTube a while ago and tried loads to get that sound back, nothing worked so just got another one haha.

I really want to hear the strings before I buy a set.

it went pretty far down haha!

I have to trade a 1995 Fender MIA Jazz Deluxe, serial is N5 so indicates it's a '95 but does come with a 50th anniversary sticker on the back of the headstock, indicating 1996. Not uncommon, if it was made late in the year.

Reason: I brought this on here as a small lingering bit of GAS for a good Jazz was burning softly in my loins, and I need a suitable backup for when I finally sort out the Sterling for a new neck. While it is a great example of a Jazz by Fender it just really isn't for me, the neck is slighly chunkier than the sterling and the sound is obviously too different for me.

Rosewood on a one piece maple neck, truss rod adjustment at heel.
[b]22 frets[/b]
Trans vintage white/cream with Tort Pickguard.
[b]String through[/b]
9v active preamp.
Vol, Blend, Bass/Treble, Mid.
[b]John Suhr Single Pole Piece pickups.[/b]
Fender branded Schaller MS4 tuners.
Fender Moulded case
Truss rod tool.
Inspection Papers.
[b]8.4lbs[/b]

Things that make this version of the J bass stand out are the 22 frets, smaller and lighter body and the pretty decent John Suhr pickups.

As far as jazzs go this is been my favourite to own. The pickups and active circuit the high end is very open and airy but it still sound like a traditional passive jazz. It does what Jazz's do best. Everything. The back pickup is very burpy and Jaco like and with some EQ can be extremely full and aggresive, both pickups gives you the classic Marcus Miller sound, mid scoop and fat slap sounds, great for pick playing. The front pickup sounds exactly like any other P-bass I've owned. The low isn't massive and rolling but with a turn of the bass knob it can get pretty huge, but I think this helps give a better percussive attack and is very punchy for an active jazz.

It is also extremely light, 8.4lbs on my bathroom scales, my sterling weighs more! It has some dunlop strap pins fitted to it (for the locking system) but they are extremely usable without the locking system.

Pictures:
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I tried to do my best with pictures, I'm no photographer and only have my camera phone. There is a little bit of buckle rash, fairly negligable, the neck has a few bumps on the back but nothing drastic and while playing they become invisible, also as you can see there is a fairly substantial knock to the finish on the top horn, but it doesn't penetrate the wood at all and is purely cosmetic and doesnt effect the playability or sound etc etc.

Trades: Ideally I'm looking at a straight trade, I can not really part with too much cash, but I will for the right bass.

I'm looking for either an early Sterling (with the old style bridge) in any colour/condition.
A newer Sterling but I will be picky about colour (not too keen on the standard classic colours) again condition is not important.
I may take a SUB bass in the Sterling design, but must be A1 condition, and cash my way I'm afraid.
A Stingray but weight for me is important.
Early Warwick FNA (single MM style pickup)

I'm not after amps really, but I am looking at Markbass cabs, mainly the traveller series, like the 1x15 or something.

Hit me with what you have.

Stephen

While I'd stil;l rather trade, something has come up that I really want to try out (The Bongo 4H) so for at least for now it's open to a straight sale.
£550 Posted, by bank transfer, or cash on collection. I'm just outside Nottingham City centre, 10 minute drive north.

the modern channel is a bit dry and nasty but the valve/classic channel is pretty decent.

I'd stay away from the cabs though! I'd also make the most of it's 2ohm minium load and get 3 smallish 8ohm cabs.
then you have loud, louder and loudest!

You should really get out and try them all!

I would vote for markbass as hey have excellent response to the guitar(even when clipping) and does bring out the attack (which sould be inherent in your playing style for this music) plus the p[retty much flat response is a good way to start your EQ, especially if you are using effect before it.
My only issue with them is the centre frequencies. The low is about 10hz too low for my liking and both the mids are too close to the middle, although I leave it flat so no worries haha.

Although I've only heard a little bit of the artists you mentioned I imagine they have a crap tonne of EQ behind them in the studio, so it would be best to guage what you want fromm live videos. Bassists like Takeshi Ueda and Tim Commerford have usually great live sound and is pretty similar to the recording (cause they both have a crap tone of EQ and effects they've done themselves)

I'm no expert at generating sounds, but I would vote for a sansamp (not the character pedals very overated and expensive drive boxes) personally I'd look for a para driver as the BDDI has lots of mid suck, which may be good for you but if you want to put it back it's a little tougher on the BDDI.

after recently renting a wacking great Ampeg SVT II I'm pretty convinced now by the whole 'valve power' thing, the sound a/b to my LMtube which only has a tube pre, the clean tone is similar but the break etc compared tube pre and pedals is too differebt and if I wabted that full on rawk sound, I'd bite the bullet and get a valve power jobby.

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Quietly sick??
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haha excuse my poort spelling

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1334314111' post='1614254']
Have a look at the Super 12. Pantherairsoft plays in a Dubstep/electronica band & says it has phenomenal low end (now I want one! )
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It's actually a Big Twin.

Which is the one to go for if you still want the high end, even the one without the tweeter. It does him well in the dub and sub stuff he does.

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1334399271' post='1615612']
yup wouldnt blame the shop - my local shop here ordered me a 2U rack case for my head - took 4 months because of the supplier
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I waited about the same for some DR's from bass direct as the supplier kept telling Mark next week, which is all he could have told me. I eventually emailed them directly and they washed their hands of supplier issues....

I buy most of my stuff secondhand, having only really brought my barefaced cabs new.
I'm bidding on 2 sterlings at the moment both with a reserve that will no doubt be only a 100quids less than the BIN price, which for both is too high, for £800 I could get 2 brilliant secondhand basses of a similar quality.
I paid £550 for my sterling, and I realise this is dirt cheap (even for the time) but I don't recall a Sterling selling secondhand for more than £750.

I think some sellers need to wake up, people who really do want to sell or really do need the cash put the low prices on then you have to take into account if people really want something. There is a Corvette $$ on here atm for £400!!!! The retail is something like 3 times that.

If I had that kind of cash going spare I may take a punt on the new Epiphone thunderbirds with US pickups, that's if I didn't already know how terribly balanced they are.

I may have some one who will buy it, I'll pm you!

Really want to get my hands on one these early FNA's but 4 string of course.........

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1334326328' post='1614626']
Cheap out option for more volume same tone is a dummy load and running the DI out into a power amp. But yeah, the BTA is the one for ABM options on a valve power section. There is one in the line with the simple preamp an valve power though.
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I would do this. You can get a decent power amp for a few hundred quids and then have 'all valve' with a crap tone of power for very little weight gain.
Other option is that little bastard 550 thing.........

I've worked on mods for a friends, and after changing the pickup (MM one) and adding a preamp it was a very decent bass.

PErsonally the pickguard is horrible, so if I had one that would go. I also wasn't impressed with the finish in the neck, the frets were very sharp at the ends, and this bothers me the most with nay bass.

Personally my preference (if I had to choose) is the Jazz.

It will safely do the precision sound, and any minute differences will be lost in any mix.
My favourite bassist use's a P bass but he EQ's so much and uses so many effects it probably doesn't matter what he uses.

I'll stick to my Musicman basses.....

[quote name='TraceAmp' timestamp='1334297538' post='1613896']
What about the Fender American DLX Precisions?


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A fender bucker is not replacement for a Mussicman man(or good replacement) in the right position....
Even Wariwick's MEC in the postions they come in don't come close.

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1326324373' post='1495642']
A few I remember off teh top of my head.

Epiphone Thunderbird IV
Epiphone Viola bass thing.
Epiphone Jack Cassady Sig, sounded amazing with flats.
Fender Jaguar Bass
Fender Power Jazz Special (what duff's is based on and with the graphite layer in the neck)
Fender MIM Jazz Std.
Fender MIA P-bass Std (Chrome red, S1)
Fender MIM Mark Hoppus Sig
Fender MIA '95 Jazz Deluxe
Squier VM Jazz
Bits-a-Jazz (mainly fender US parts and Fender lisc parts)
EBMM SUB Bass
EBMM 95 Stingray 4H
EBMM Big Al (custom order)
Warwick Corvette $$

Currently Own:
EBMM '95 Sterling Bass

Amps:
Orange PA120 (IIRC)
Orange AD140HTC
Marshall MB4210 (terrible but opened me to hybrid heads)
Ampeg SVT III-pro
Orange TerrorBass (500)
MarkBass LittleMark Tube 500 (2 of)
TC Electronic RH750
MarkBass F1
Eden WTX500
Genz-Benz Streamliner 900

Cabs:
Orange PPC 4x12 (2 of)
Carlsbro 4x12
Barefacsed Compact (2 of)
Barefaced Midget
Barefaced SuperTwelve T
Ampeg 806HE

I've only been playing 2 and a half years....

editted for amps and adding ones I forgot about haha,
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