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I'll be interested in how it is as I was gonna get this over the OTB, but couldn't get one used.

Hate revive this old thread but seems silly making another.

I want to upgrade the pickups to suit a active pre amp and still sound the bees knees through the passive tone control.

I'm assuming that a good start would be the Seymour Duncan quarte pounders?

This also brings to another point about the jag bass. That pre-amp, the bass is naff but the treble sounds ok, but the pots are crap, on mine anyway it feels more on/off than a gradual progression.

Any ideas how to upgrade these?

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='897870' date='Jul 18 2010, 11:03 AM']Its a coil split sort of a thingymagig![/quote]

Indeed, my brain tells me it Should be front coil, both(humbucker), back coil.

Or it could have a ghost single coil under it for more options.

Or it could have parallel/series options.

Massive gas now people.

Cleaner?

The OTB has quiet a lot of clean headroom. To get really clean I've got my gain at 9 o clock

Well ok with deduced the guy was wrong. I assume he was trying to sort your sound for FOH through a PA.

In my limited experience the sound guy can do whatever with your sound regardless of what the cab sounds like.

Also it would be easy to cancel out the nonlinear with an EQ pedal or if you have a complex eq on the amp.

Anyway all I have heard from those tc cabs is everything but honk.

I had a 3 for a while but for my compact it was underpowered, but if you have a good 4 ohm cab it'll be a pure beast, it doesn't weigh a tonn either, so easy enough to move around.

It's major Grindy though and it doesn't do clean at all.

That JC is a good'un

I'm interested in how you rate it's set up as I did it and would like to think I know what I'm doing, feel free to shoot me down

I know what you are saying, I've had my jag the longest but gas for another Ray type bass is nearly making me offer it out there.

I've had 6 different basses since the start of the year "/

So your not that bad.

Well I think anyone reading this will now this road will lead to you selling your nice new EBMM Ray and a kidney to buy a rickenbacker, only to sell that on...

I'd probably start a topic in General bass chat though as you sent looking for anything permenant, maybe look in gear porn section see who has rickenbackers and just message them see if they don't mind lending you one for a week or 2, offer a new set of strings to sweeten them up????,

[quote name='algmusic' post='895557' date='Jul 15 2010, 12:55 PM']Right I'm definitely getting a terror.. the MB rocker wasn't that gritty.. it just means, I can just carry one amp and no pedals (bar my tuner)[/quote]


I can carry my bass, OTB, compact and a bag full of cables, adapters, strings and things, and three pedals (tuner, compressor, DI) by myself.

It's a slight hual but if I was that picky that I had to rehurse with my rig then I could walk the 10 minutes up hill with it. Also is not hard to manufacture your own rack/trolley for it.

Well like I said my OTB is bass heavy, on any cab, I got it used and the guy left the setting on and the bass was cut significantly and he used 2 4x10s.

Just to explain my boomyness, I'm using a jag mainly and it's in series mode, OTB has a flat EQ. At many gigs I've used it and it's been fine no boom, but I'm too in-experiennced to EQ it out or no where to place it in relation to the room or whatever.

When I use it with my newly acquired musicman sub (thanks basslondon) the sound is a lot better, as in not boomy. Web at those low volumes where it's not driving the speaker a great deal.

I must say you can get an out-board pre-amp and hook it into the OTB effects return (cut out the pre-amp) and you can notice the difference. The OTB pre-ampm is definatly bass heavy.

I've also used the compact with a SVT 3 pro and the sound was nice an phat for me, but I had to upgrade for more watts!

I'm gigging with the bass terror and the barraged compact:

It's so light that I can carry the cab the head my guitar and effects bag and cable spares bag no problem. And if you look at the size of my wrists (avatar pic) you can see I'm no beef cake.

It's loud, I mean seriously loud. You haven't heard loud until you've stood 4 ft away from this with the terror on half volume and the gain not even at 9 o clock. You'll blow not only yourself away but every body standing within a good 20 ft away. This is excellent for those non PA equipped gigs. It drowns drums out.

The bad thing is it's so loud that it's hard to use on stage with a PA. To get "tone" volume out of it is easy but once you have it, it's too loud. I try and practice with this and I've broken about 6 light bulbs down stairs, and just this morning I've had to re-fit some light fittings.

The bass terror is very bassy as it is and adding a 15 (compact) is increasing that. (only when you are squeezing the air pressure in your head does the EQ start to flatten out) this is bad unless you can really open the taps as the bass can turn into that in-audible low end mush when you play with fingers.

In my personal experience it's good for funk, slap, punk(with a pick) as it's dry fat sounding and full, but the more I play with fingers the more I notice the boomy ness.


Of course you can alway EQ out the bass a bit, and up the treble and ass the OTB has a subtle EQ it won't drastically alter your "tone"

Besides it's negatives I really love it, it'll cut through and still be low down in any mix, I've used this rig against a heavy hitting drummer 2 4x12 stacks in along high ceilinged hall, and the sound was immense, just helps the drummer if they have a monitor for every things else as behind it all you hear is low end mush.

In the future I'm either gonna switch to the TC RH450 or classic, get a midget, or sell the compact and get two of the isobaric 2x12s. But this is of course how I'm feeling with my rig aswell.

Obviously this is all IME, IMO.

Bump to the left.

Not to be a jerk but I don't think the capitals are needed, you had me at B/B/M stingray.

Anyway good look with the sale.

Thanks guys. That's cleared up some issues for me.

I'm probably just worried it's a crap bridge.

I'll be recieving a SUB very soon as I'm no millionaire and minimum wage for unde 21's is diabolical!

Anyway I'll be upgrading it with various things, but I'm stock at the bridge replacement, the only thing I can think of (of the top of my head ) is a badass III bridg as it has 3 mounting screws and I won't have to do any drilling/screwing.

However I would rather have a musicman bridge with the mute pads on it. So my question is how do I get one of those?

I could buy a classic ray or a pre EB ray, and then try and sell it on.

I've tried eBay and there is a 1980 something musicman bridge on there except it's missing the mute pads, so that's a no go, is there a way of ordering one from EBMM?

I guess it's good at the warm DI bit as I've gone straight to the PA with that mxr di thing an that was rather cold an clinical, if the hi fi sound is for you, you won't get it with the paradriver. However I did use this with my Marshall practice amp into the power amp in and it does do a good job of emulating tube pre amp, although it's very quiet compared to using it straight into to the amps input.

I can also add that yes the oranges EQ is very very subtle.

You have to stop this madness soon.

Bump

Need the money to pay for a MM SUB bass bump

Now buying a MM.

It may not be a ray but I'm looking for a sub

How disgusting, however now I have an idea as to what 3 jazz coils would sound like for my next project bass.

I guess I kinda did the ultimate test.

I hooked te driver into my oranges effects return, which cuts out the nice warm tubes. With the parrallel out feeding my orange ad140 (all tube)

First I worked on getting a flat signal through driver. I A/B with the dry signal until I got something I couldn't distinguish between them. When setup like this it takes away the apparently "colouring" pre-amp stage.

For anyone else wanting a flat(ish) signal with the box engaged I notched the bass a tad up, between 12 and 1, the mid at 3 with mid frequency set at 750 then notched treble to nearly 11.

Great now I have my dry signal (surprisingly nice) a flat signal through the box and an all tube amp to compare.

The driver does an a warmth to the signal but compared to my all tube head it sounds slightly artificial. Also it supposed to emulate the tube compression, I witnessed no such thing. However the signal when it's engaged does sound nice, there's no harsh peaks and it's warm enough to notice and in a real situation you wouldn't notice the difference.

Ok good test?

The thing is sometimes I do feel that it's more a warm DI with some amp simulation, rather than tube amp emulation.

I think you should take a look at the for sale section, there is a very nice epiphone EB-1 there for £180 posted.



Sorry for the shameless plug.