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[quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1476908411' post='3158454'] Well said. My LH500 has rarely needed to be at above the halfway point on the linear volume control. If the TX is as loud with plenty to spare, then it'll be perfect for me. The trouble is, it's not exactly easy to try one out in the UK, without a long journey. With all the negative comments, it's definitely one to try before you buy. [/quote] I have just received the LH1000 and tried it. I can categorically state that the TX600 is nowhere near as loud as an LH500. I used one of the 500 watt cores into a single speaker and this is *significantly* louder. Using both cores in Dual Parallel mode into two speakers, this is ridiculously, laughable louder. It makes the TX600 seem like a 60 watt practice combo. Full review and pics coming up...

[quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1476905196' post='3158409'] Bass Player's review describes the TX as "loud and punchy". It would seem many disagree. [/quote] "Loud" needs qualification. It might be loud compared to a small combo, but 600 watts loud? My comparison is against other 600, 500 and 900 watt amps Ive used recently. There are far too many reviews saying the same thing as me for it not to be a thing. Is it a bad head? No. Its tone is lovely and features are great. Is it quiet? Not at all. Is it 600 watts loud? Not in my opinion.

According to the website, the Supertwin has high "PISTONIC SENSITIVITY." Cor blimey... Also possibly something to do with sealed vs ported cabs? All that said, if that is the case, surely the Genz would boom even more?

Ohhh..I see!! He owns a TX600 and a Hartke Hydrive 410 and he's selling the latter due to a Super Twin producing more volume when matched to that head. I get you blood. Kids these days...

[quote name='Cuzzie' timestamp='1476696532' post='3156283'] I have a HyDrive 410 which I am selling as I just got a Barefaced supertwin and it makes the Hartke boom!! [/quote] The Supertwin is a cab isn't it? It makes a 410 cab boom? Idontgeddit...

Depends on the rock band! All I can say is my Contour 500 was struggling a bit with 2x 112s (or rather...didn't have the headroom I like. I'm a bit of a headroom junky) in a covers band with 2 loud guitars and a v. loud non mic'd drummer and the Hartke is noticeably quieter. As above, I found the limit of the preamp and backed it off just enough so it doesn't flash under heavy playing. Yes it jumps suddenly at 2 but was still noticeably quieter and started to hit its limits of clean power quicker than the Genz.

Cheers man. I'm not sure the LH1000 is necessary. Maybe I should save 100 odd quid and get the 500, especially as my wee 300 watt 112s can only handle a small chunk of the power. Ah well...you can never have too much headroom...

So... I've been running a Genz Benz Contour 500 head into 2x Hartke 112 Hydrive cabs. Lovely punchy cabs, great little head. I found myself wanting a more valvey tone and just a little more headroom... Cue me deciding to give the Hartke TX600 a go... First impressions: This is a nice, modern looking amp. The single handle is a nice feature and the chunky dials with back lighting look good. On the flipside, it seems like Hartke have decided to change their visuals. Sitting on top of the Hydrives it looks like an amp from a different manufacturer. That said, no biggie and still a nice looking little unit that feels like it will stay together for a long time. Switching it on: This is a very quiet unit. It seems even quieter than the Genz, with very little hiss and the variable speed fan which only comes on when needed is a nice feature. Gain. Dialling up the gain reveals a tube preamp that takes a LOT to make it overdrive and even then it is very minor overdrive with the light flashing red and hardly any audible distortion. With a passive G&L JB-2 I wasn't able to make it overdrive even with it max'd out. With a high output G&L L2000 and some very aggressive playing, the backlight started to go red around the 3'o'clock mark and again was not very audible distortion. Not a tube preamp designed for tube overdrive tone, if that's what you're looking for. For clean valve preamp tone, it's great; which leads me on to... EQ. The EQ is not your bog standard active EQ affair. The EQ is apparently a "tone stack equilizer" which has no theoretical flat setting and I can confirm it doesn't appear to behave like other EQs I've used. Whatever it is, it is very easy to dial in some lovely musical velvety, growly aggressive, or smooth and warm tones. It certainly sounds different to a normal active eq, but it only takes a few seconds to dial in what you need and is difficult to dial in something that sounds bad. The treble is sweet and crisp with no harshness. The bass is powerful and very musical (notably set at a relatively high 80Hz). The shape control is a "scoop" setting rather than a mid boost type filter. Compared to the Genz it is smoother and more, well, valvey; exactly as expected. Compressor. I was very pleasantly surprised by the compressor, having never tried Hartke effects pedals and having owned some great stuff by TC, EBS etc. I found that this is a really really nice, musical sounding compressor that goes from subtle to rich, punchy and crunchy. Very nice and up there in tone with the famous EBS foot pedal, which I loved. Volume. Hmm. Volume. This is, unfortunately, what has lead me to decide to send the unit back and now consider getting the much heavier, less feature laden LH1000. I did a direct comparison with the Genz and Initially thought I had somehow managed to wire up the cabs wrong...or had missed a button, or misunderstood how the EQ worked. After consulting the manual and staring at the amp, A/Bing between the Genz and the Hartke into the same speakers multiple times, it dawned on me. This "600 watt" amp is significantly, noticably, frustratingly quieter than the 500 watt Genz Benz. It sounds like what I'd imagine an amp with 300 watts would sound like in terms of volume. To confound matters, the volume has a very annoying way of suddenly jumping up in volume beyond around 2'o'clock. Beyond that, when pushed, it started to sound boxy and compressed/stressed and still could not keep up with the Genz, whose volume increases in a far more linear fashion and without farting out through the range of the volume dial. On both the Hartke and Genz I pushed the preamp up to the point when it starts overdriving and then just backed off so it stayed clean to make it a fair test. I've owned Genz Shuttle 6.2s, 9.2s and GBE750s and these all were VASTLY louder. Disappointing... Very disappointing. It makes me wonder if Hartke are being a bit "creative" with their power ratings...someone with more amp related knowledge may be able to comment... I may report back on my experience with the LH1000.