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I allow people to use my cabs all of the time. When working with bands that are serious about their gear or bands that have to travel a fair bit I feel that this is worth it as if another band does this for me in return in the future then great.

I also no have a back up Trace Elliot head I bought second hand that I let people use if they just don't bring anything. I don't like having to provide an amp for anyone, but its better than letting people use my EBS head.

I've found from experience that bassists are usually the most likely to be the guy in the band that has no gear!

If I'm doing a gig when I'm using a combo I'll only let people use it if I know or trust them, or if there is a genuine backline share going on (like another band is bringing a guitar amp, drum kit etc). If a band contacts us on the day of the gig asking to use everything, we just say no.

[quote name='dood' post='859898' date='Jun 7 2010, 02:21 PM'][/quote]

Nice!

Personally I never got on with 4x10 XL series cabs when used by themselves, not so much for being bottom shy (they were not) so much that I found the punch of the cabinets to almost be excessive! This was regardless of the EQ settings (using the 3500 head). From other bass players I talk to though, I seem to be in the minority as they seem to love the aluminium speaker cones.

Saying that, I think that concept of the hydrive stuff is really cool and a few guys I know have got rid of Ampeg cabs to get them is pretty telling in itself.

I've used the 6x10 a couple of times and I love it. I prefer the 6x10 to both the Ampeg 4x10hlf and the 8x10 fridge. Just a great cabinet capable of soom very low frequencies but still cuts through quite nicely.

Obviously its best to try them both out to see which one you prefer with the Trace Elliot head. Personally I would be tempted to put a new set of speakers in the Peavey cab, but that is because I like the idea of a really loud 2x15 for huge deep bass.

I'm not sure the Ampeg would be much more portable though, as from my experience both the 4x10 and the 6x10 are bloody heavy and a pain to move, even considering the casters that are on them.

Anyway, I don't think you'd regret getting the ampeg though.

[quote name='Marvin' post='859083' date='Jun 6 2010, 05:45 PM']Saw it went on for 2 whole hours and couldn't be arsed to even start watching it. I fell asleep to some movie with Vin Diesel in it.[/quote]

There was a Vin Diesel film on? I should have just watched that.

Pretty awful show with pretty rubbish experts and guests. My favourite moments:

Jonathan Ross having no real idea on who Tony Iommi is.

Copeland trying to argue that Sting was the best bassist because he had strong fingers

Mark Ronson arguing that Jimmy Page basically invented hip hop and Hendrix didn't really come up with many memorable riffs.

That it took Vic Reeves to mention that Jeff Beck belongs in the short list of best guitarist kinda sums up the show.

Jonathan Ross almost seemed annoyed that Led Zep won best band rather than Queen or the Beatles.

The show really said more about the presenters and guests rather than the people and bands nominated for any of the 'awards'.

[quote name='SisterAbdullahX' post='842670' date='May 19 2010, 11:22 PM']the ding in the body came about through a ham fisted drummer[/quote]

So somebody did mistreat it after all! Sorry I didn't mean to point any fingers.

It really saddens me to know that a Vigier has been mistreated in such a way! Good luck with the sale, its a great price even considering the damage.

I generally use hybrids but carry a spare amp with me to gigs when we are travelling. It not only helps as a spare but also as an amp that I let others use when other bassists turn up to a gig without one, which they usually do!

If I'm doing a gig and I'm just taking a taxi, I will just take a combo. If anything happens the magical sansamp will come into play.

Ah huzzah, just thought that was a rack mounted preamp?

Should be good.

I bought one of these today. I'm so pleased with it but now I will be eating only bread for the next month. Really great pedal that has a lot of sound shaping possibilities and very quick tracking, even down near the bottom of the A string.

I also tried the TLC compression pedal and was knocked out by the difference it could make to a slap tone. If I actually did any slap type stuff (in public anyway) it would be sure thing in my pedal chain. I couldn't justify buying such a thing just now though.

Apparently according to the store guy at Guitar Guitar, Aguilar are probably going to release more pedals pretty soon. I'm hoping for a nasty overdrive/extreme Tone Hammer type thing. I won't be holding my breath though...

Overall a productive day!

Ampeg 6x10 is one of my favourite cabs to play through. The 450 should be a good match. Well done!

I think it looks great and its always good to see someone thinking outside the box. I would love to try to one, but have my doubts as to how it would cope with playing chords high up on the neck. Until I try one I can't say anything though...

I have one.

It is really good at getting a true valve overdrive or acting as a really nice sweet sounding preamp, but I do have a few issues with it.

1. The vintage setting is really fluffy and a bit ill-defined so not much use.
2. It does take a bit to get used to the EQ settings.
3. When used live, there has been a noticeable 'click' when swiched on and off on my one. I leave it on most of the time but it is very annoying.
4. Construction issues, the rubber feet keep falling off and the gain knob fell off once. For the price I paid this should not be an issue really.
5. No UK plug is supplied, so you have to buy an adapter
6. It is massive!

Its got to the point now that I just use it for recording/practices. I'm not sure I trust valve pedals to play gig after gig, night after night. I also have the Electro-Harmonix English Muff'n which I think gives a more gnarly, unrefined sound for a lot less money. Depends on what you are after soundwise.

Given the choice again, I would maybe have gone with the Multidrive or have waited for the Metaldrive.

As it is, I'm back using the Boss ODB 3, as I find the blend knob to be useful and there are no construction fears. The core tone is really coming from my bass and amp really.

An efficient 300 watt amp is more than capable of driving an 8x10 to silly levels of volume. Used a Mesa Walkabout head through an 8x10 and it cut through two full marshall guitar stacks and a very loud drummer.

Ashdown Evos sound fine through an Ampeg 8x10. It is the stock set up in a few rehearsal studios around Glasgow. Personally I think that the Ampeg cabs are better than the Ashdown cabs, but the price of 8x10 Mag cab is really good value for money.

For me, its gonna be a difference in the preamp, and possibly more consistent fretwork. For a passive Fender-style bass I would probably take a Fender. However, I've never heard an active Fender that could compete with a Sandberg, Sadowsky or other such basses. I've not tried the new US deluxe line yet, but generally active preamps have not been Fender's strong point, in my view.

Also, until the release of the new US deluxe line, I've thought that the colour options of the recent Fenders have been pretty limited/ugly compared to the Lakland and the rest.

Round about a grand? EBS Fafner! I'm biased though...

Or pick up a second hand ampeg and leave yourself some cash for new pick ups/new bass/food.

I'm a try before you buy person. If it is a 'new' bass but has a few dings I obviously don't expect to charged full price, but if it plays great then I would see no reason not to buy it if the damage was only cosmetic. Dings and stuff happen, even if you really look after your basses.

Spending £2000 grand on a really beaten up old Fender with 'mojo', where the dings seem to add to the value, does annoy me a bit though.

I don't like the idea of trying a 'showroom' bass which I decide to buy only to be given a new bass which hasn't been touched, the bass I buy has to be the one I try out in the store.

I have no problem buying amps online, but I couldn't buy a bass without playing it first, unless it was made to order type bass like a Sadowsky NYC, Fodera, Ritter etc where I know that the bass is going straight from the workshop into my hands. Spending that type of money everything should be perfect!

Get a valve amp and drive it hard. P bass optional.

Getting an all valve head is expensive buying new though. A second hand Ampeg Pro hybrid would be pretty good.

Failing that get a tube pedal like the English Muff'n or EBS Valvedrive, or a VT bass type pedal and stick it before the Ashdown. It would do the job and save money.

Like what others have said I would look at maybe getting a new pickup or bass before deciding to spend loads on an amp. You could do far worse than an Evo head.

Sometimes it just comes into my head, when doing something else, then I need to find an instrument to try it out, usually it the bass.

Sitting down composing is usually with the bass. I usually compose it as if its a bass solo piece. So I build up chords, melodic runs, and loads of other bits that I have no intention of playing in a band environment. This way I have the skeleton of the song and an idea of what I want the guitar to do.

I write with the guitar as well, but I don't believe that the guitar is necessarily a better instrument for composing. The bass is only limited if you are trying to write a bassline, rather than a song/composition. If you are using the guitar to write a bunch of bloc guitar chords, then its not really any better.

I just tend not to use keys/piano. Mostly because I don't own any.

I really liked the bass tone from the guy in Dozer, nothing fancy just great tone that was usually mixed quite well.

And on the singing stoner bassists front I'll say Lou Gorra from Halfway to Gone. Just cool.

My personal favourite would probably be Torche though, as the whole band provides bass tone!

If Deftones count as a modern band I would stick them in too.

In terms of famous bands of the moment, nobody really springs to mind. The guy in Alexisonfire has a fairly nice Jazz bass growl at times.

Sometimes I almost think the guy in Nickleback gets a good tone, but I'm not sure if it is 'tone' but rather a case of each note being produced to within an inch of its life!

Awwww, this is an valve amp that gets me a bit giddy!

Tried out a Classic in a shop when looking at a bass. I was playing at a very low volume and a tube went. The guy in the shop then plugged me into an Aguilar DB750, which just sounded so much better.

That said, I've seen so many bassists using SVT Classics that have had a great tone and I've never been at a gig where a tube Ampeg has cut out or gone wrong live.

Tube amps both excite and scare me. The quality control on Ampeg seems to be as varied as trying out a Fender bass, you could try one out and have a dud, or try one and think 'this is the best thing ever!' They are still a big name, but I'm not sure they can really be classed as the 'industry standard' anymore.

I must say that I was buying my last amp, I really didn't consider Ampeg Classic or VR, because I just didn't feel I could trust it in a gig to gig situation. They are also expensive and power tubes are expensive!

After listening to a few, I just concluded that Dual Recs tend to swamp over a lot of the bass frequencies by stealing a lot of space in the mix that would normally be taken up by the bass, which in turn can make it difficult to get the bass to cut through.

That said, a good amp even if only 300 watts, played through a decent 8x10 should cut through any live/practice situation.
The Ashdown ABM Head shouldn't really struggle, though I'm not keen on their cabs but that is just me.

Don't rule out a good 6x10 either, just about as loud as an 8x10 but a but more portable. Unless, you are playing large venues all the time, turning up with an 8x10 to smaller venues can make soundmen take an immediate dislike to you.

If you are tuning down and have space to transport them, you could buy a couple of 2x15s and find some space under the guitarists.

Its funny that these amps are designed for use in large arenas and stadiums, but the Roadrunner bands playing said arenas probably have empty cabs and are playing through rackmounted effects units sitting behind the stage.

Regardless, if those guitarists are turning up that loud, they had better be good!

If you still love the tone of Trace Elliot, you could always just get another head. Second hand Trace heads are everywhere and a Series 6 or SMX type head would also be dirt cheap and be generally pretty reliable.

That said if buying new I would personally be looking at other options than Trace Elliot, as I find the new stuff to a little bit overpriced. You wouldn't really be going wrong with a Markbass, the couple I have tried have been great. Also around that price you could try the EBS Classic 450, HD 350 and the Aguilar AG500.

Thats a bit of a shame on the amp front though, with the issues of the amp though, you may not get that much money for it. Might be an idea to just play it until it craps out.

That is a great amp for rock, I just bought one myself. In my opinion the power rating is a bit underestimated. Seriously loud!